OscarBluth

I can't believe Pam is pregnant. Why would they hide it behind glass only to have it casually mentioned by Pam? I was 100% sure they were duping the audience by making you think she was pregnant but not saying it. Maybe that was the dupe.. Something about the whole thing is weird.

Am I the only one who didn't see Ryan in the final meeting, but heard him yell something out?

Draven

I rewatched the season finale the other day and once again couldn't fathom ANYONE thinking it was anything else than a pregnancy. In fact, I couldn't think of what else it possibly could be. Jim is smiling and tearing up, they are hugging, Pam looks stunned but happy...really, how was there ever doubt.

I thought the reveal was really nice - the camera crew wasn't invited in but we still got to be a part of it.

He yelled out "Don't get it vaccinated" and you can see him standing near the window.

whoopdido

Maybe he confronted him in the "Michael" way, but it sure wasn't the "right" way. There's a difference.

Tracer Bullet

I didn't catch that.

Slumbering Fist

Okay ep. Few good laughs but nothing that pegged it as a classic.

The pregnancy thing is such a dull, overused sitcom angle, surprised they brought it up, halfway curious to see if they can do something interesting with it.

Micheal/Carrell had quite a tan. Maybe Micheal spent another vacation in Jamaica? :P

OscarBluth

The fact that they were in a room with no mics made it seem too obvious, I thought they could have easily made it something like an ankle injury which meant they wouldn't have to go back to the Dunder Mifflin picnic. Adding a baby is almost always death for a sitcom, so unless they handle it like Scrubs did, I still don't get why they'd add it to the show.

Groucho

So fellas, how did you explain Parkour to your special lady friend?

1. Casino Royale?
2. Assassin's Creed?
3. District B13?

Slumbering Fist

Graham Chapman in the mountain climbing sketch.

Jack Straw

Well, it's not like Michael didn't already know before approaching the big guy now.

Jack Straw

Let's all take a reality check here. If Michael was more "normal", one of the main draws of the show (what's the jackass going to do or say next?) wouldn't pull in so many viewers.

Draven

Jim walks out of the room after talking to the doctor and his girlfriend with a huge smile on his face and tears in his eyes...and you thought it might be an ankle injury?




If that wasn't a big enough hint for you, they WANTED to get back to the picnic to beat Charles and Corporate in the volleyball game. It would have taken something big to keep them away.

I'm sure they'll handle it just fine, just like they pretty much avoided the "will they or won't they" bullshit with Jim and Pam in the first place.

whoopdido

To each his own but I liked that "will they or won't they bullshit" It made the characters endearing and gave me a reason to watch each week. Is this the week they FINALLY get together? Oh poor Jim...maybe it'll never happen. Sad.

I hate the new relationship/baby "bullshit" The characters bring nothing to the show anymore.

Watch the UK Office to see how that relationship was handled. Much better in my opinion.

kstublen

I agree that the "will-they, won't they" is enjoyable, but only to a point. There is such a thing as over-doing it (see nearly every television show ever). They did it on Friends with Ross and Rachel, they did it on Scrubs with J.D. and Elliot, etc. It gets tiresome and predictable.

The UK Office could handle the relationship different because it was only 12 episodes long with a Christmas Special. Obviously the will-they, won't-they worked for that show...because it was only done for 12 episodes. Not to mention the fact that the show itself had a planned beginning and end; they knew what they were going to do and could plan everything leading to that conclusion. The same cannot be said for The Office (US) and American television in general, where they continue the show and the story for much longer; one season of a television show in America is as long or longer than some show's entire run in the UK.

And for what it's worth, Jim and Pam went three seasons of will-they, won't-they until they finally got together. That is more than enough if you ask me. That is what really puzzles me, it isn't like they have been together since the start; for half of the show thus far they weren't. It is nice to see someone actually have a functional and normal relationship on a television show for once. And why do people complain about babies? Don't they realize that people, in real life, have kids? Jim and Pam are a couple, are getting married...and yet no one thinks it even remotely possible that Pam might at some point get pregnant? It happens; I see no problem with them incorporating it into the show. And let's not forget, this is a work-place television show. It isn't like the baby is going to be chilling in the office every episode. They'll probably do what Scrubs did with the introduction of kids, which I think is perfectly acceptable.

The way I look at it, they had three options with Jim and Pam. Continue the back-and-forth for the entire show, have them get together, or have them never get together. I think the writers did the right thing and had them get together.

whoopdido

You make a very good point. I agree that 5, 6 plus seasons of will they/won't they probably would get a little tiresome. The UK version did it brilliantly, but again you're right in that it was in a very short time span, so it worked out perfectly.

All I know is that I LOVED the first 3 seasons of the Office, but as soon as Jim and Pam got together, everything that I used to love about the show just disappeared. I can't necessarily put my finger on it. Others have asked why the show is different now that it used to be and most people can't really answer that question and I guess neither can I. All I can say is that the show does seem different than it did in seasons 1-3 and pretty much the only thing that's different now compared to then is that Jim and Pam are together.

I mean Jim and Pam used to be pretty much my two favorite characters. I thought they were cute and funny and I was interested in their will they or won't they storyline. I wanted to see them get together, but since they got together they've become BY FAR my least favorite characters on the show. Everything that I used to like about them is gone for me.

I'm no writer so I don't know what I would have done and like I said, I agree that they couldn't pull off the will they/won't they stuff for 6 seasons, but in any event, I just don't like the characters anymore.

Oh well.

Vipper II

Perhaps Pam was previously diagnosed with gonorrhea, but the doctor told her they made a mistake and she was fine. And, since she and Jim are an item, he was happy, too, since that meant he didn't have it, either.

Draven

I think it's interesting that when two characters form a couple, get married and have kids they seem to become "uninteresting" to some people. I'd guess they aren't in that situation themselves.

I think the writers have done a great job with their initial attraction, dating and then getting together. They haven't thrown up a series of roadblocks, cheating suspicions, "We were on a break!" scenarios or anything else. They seem to have a healthy natural relationship, and still remain the sole voice of reason in the office. Jim continues to make me laugh as he deals with everyone around him. Pam hasn't had much to do in a while but I'm sure a lot will happen with her this season too.

JTH182

Do you know any interesting married couples? lol

majorjoe23

Yeah, but that was over 14 episodes. The Office is somewhere around 100. If the UK version had gone on that long and they had kept doing a will they/won't they thing, it would have sucked.

calhoun07

There are plenty of dysfunctional people in The Office to draw on for that type of humor. For a very long time American TV seemed to shy away from a happy couple for any sustained amount of time. It's finally refreshing to see one on TV. Not sure if they will play it out that way to the end of the series, but for now this is great.

I echo those sentiments as well, but I can necessarily put my finger on it. I think the reason the show has changed is because there have been subtle changes in the way the writers write the characters overall. Michael is the most obvious. In the early seasons, he wasn't the complete buffoon we see now. He had always been a bit clueless in certain situations, which worked, but to me him driving the car into the lake was the "jump the shark" moment in his character and ever since then it's been one stupid thing after another. Asking if Pam had been pregnant for more than a YEAR in this recent episode is just one more example of a pile of them. There isn't a person alive on this planet who thinks another human being could carry a baby for a year or more. Unless they have some serious retardation, and then I would have to see it to believe it.

But not just Michael. Other characters became these forced versions of their own characters. I know I am not explaining it the way I want to... but a couple more examples: Angela wasn't always just a stuck up bitch in every episode and Stanley wasn't always just grumbling and miserable in every episode. In the early seasons, these were parts of these characters and they had other aspects to them. But the changes have been subtle...but they are there and I think that's the reason a lot of people feel the show has changed but can't quite pin it down. It's like once the writers figured out what to do with some of these characters, they latched on to only certain parts of their personalities and focused on them so much it overshadowed everything else about the characters.

calhoun07

What is an interesting married couple to you? A couple who has drama between themselves all the time? And on the verge of breaking up/giving up? Because that's the way a lot of them are written on American TV.

And, yes, I've personally known some interesting people who happened to be married. Without the drama.

Original Desmond

The opening Parkour sequence was amazing. Episode went downhill after that

DJariya

The episode was quite funny despite Michael's usual stupidity.

The open with them playing Parkhour and Andy falling into the refridgerator box was hilarious.

I also thought the gay rumors about Andy were quite funny and his discussions with Oscar and Jim about it.

Surprised that noone recognized Max Carver (the intern who didn't learn a damn thing), who plays one of the Scavo twins on Desperate Housewives.

Groucho

Hey, great observation, Andy.

JTH182

Yeah, I can't believe no one noticed that...

JTH182

Not necessarily drama, just something more than deciding what to do for dinner or whose turn it is to change the diaper.