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Old 09-15-09, 11:26 PM
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You think she's actually gonna get married.

Everything else you said.....ditto. And Jeff killed it tonight. As always.
If Natalie's BF is dumb enough to propose on TV even after watching all the same behavior from her that we have then yes I do think they will get married but it won't last. A lightbulb will come on in 6 months.

The best quote of the night was from Jeff, "Jessie, your ego is too big for this room and we're outside!"
Old 09-15-09, 11:28 PM
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I'm hoping for a Jeff/Jordan Amazing Race teamup. At least Jeff. He is goddamn funny.
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But none of those morons thought to mention it in the house?

I don't know about anyone else, but if my ass in on the block on any given week, I'm asking at least a few questions in the DR about allowing underage drinking in a network production. They all deserved to lose for that fact alone. (And I hate Natalie.)
How do we know? Maybe they did mention it in the DR. As for doing it in the house, it's not like they could card her. Anyway, the only people smart enough to figure it out were Kevin and Michele. Kevin did confront her on it (in a friendly way), and she continued to lie about it. Michele just wasn't really a confrontational person period.

FYI, per the orange road cone...he didn't vote for Natalie b/c she didn't try to win the competitions. Basically, he didn't respect the floating and letting your allies (like him) do the dirty work.

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Old 09-16-09, 12:02 AM
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I love that she won. I'm fine with it, she won the last two events and proved to me she earned it. You don't have to agree you have the right to be wrong.
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I'm hoping for a Jeff/Jordan Amazing Race teamup. At least Jeff. He is goddamn funny.
Well, for that matter, Jordan is dang funny, too. And the two of them together had some pretty hilarious conversations. An Amazing Race team-up would be awesome.
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So is it time for a BB All stars? Have they ever done one?
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What the hell happened to Brandon? He looked like a Ken doll and the shout out he gave to Jesse was just creepy.

I'm glad Jordon won, although there were better players in the house. At least it wasn't Natalie. She's in for a reality check now that she's out of the house.

What about Ronnie when Russel was saying he was probably yelling at someone in the house and Ronnie put up his hands. Russel yelled at almost everyone in the house.

Enjoyed the season overall.
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Well, for that matter, Jordan is dang funny, too. And the two of them together had some pretty hilarious conversations. An Amazing Race team-up would be awesome.
I agree
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What about Ronnie when Russel was saying he was probably yelling at someone in the house and Ronnie put up his hands. Russel yelled at almost everyone in the house.

He was referring to when Russell was waiting outside his HOH room to yell at him, after being outed as 'the rat'
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So is it time for a BB All stars? Have they ever done one?
Season 7.
Old 09-16-09, 10:04 AM
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Who's Brandon?

Chima really screwed her side over. It would have been a lot closer had she had the vote instead of America (assuming she'd vote for Nat) which would have made Jessie's vote even sweeter.

Why they heck don't they let the vote be read a little early so we can see the reaction and get some reasoning as to why they vote? I realize the show isn't as big as Survivor, but the cast reunion on that show is always after the votes are read. Just a ploy to get us to fast forward through the Early Show?
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Why they heck don't they let the vote be read a little early so we can see the reaction and get some reasoning as to why they vote? I realize the show isn't as big as Survivor, but the cast reunion on that show is always after the votes are read. Just a ploy to get us to fast forward through the Early Show?
This was one thing that really disappointed me about the finale. They had great ratings so they extended the finale to two hours, and I thought they might have time to really ask some good questions and expose a lot more. Instead, it was mostly spent leading up to the final reveal. I wish they had completed the game and prizes within the first hour and left an entire hour to discuss strategy, etc, like they do for Survivor.
Old 09-16-09, 11:06 AM
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Super happy Jordan won out of those three. Hope she can use the money to improve her dendrites.
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I'm just glad the Nastily show is over. I tuned in last night just for closure I guess but I ended up watching some great TV. I'm shocked all of you think Jessie is so deep. He voted for Jordan for one reason and one reason only, the engagement. That boy was in love and expected a shot at getting her when all was over. Now he knows he has no shot and he got played like a fool on national tv. Didn't any of you see his face when Michelle told about the engagement? He was tearing up like a lost puppy dog. Lydia was trying to get him to say he didn't care but he was screwed up. Stupid Lydia is still just letting Jessie use her for sex and she thinks he cares about her. Jeff, once again, was so funny it was worth tuning in for.

As for the winner, I think out of those 3 Jordan did deserve the win the most. She was obviously the second weakest player all season, Nastily being the first. Then in the end, when it really counted, she won the last 2 comps against the last 2 opponents. So she stuck to her game plan of being weak enough to have everyone want her as final 2, then she kicked ass in the end and deserved it. I was hoping it would be a tie and america's vote would give it to jordan, but Jessie being the turncoat on nastily was so much better. This ALMOST makes me consider watching next season.
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My favorite line of the night was Natalie telling Kevin that he had to leave the house.
Old 09-16-09, 12:25 PM
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I do think that Jordan winning the last HOH comp and then making the right decision in keeping Natalie convinced me that she should win out of the two of them. She won when it counted, and was smart enough to make the right choice.
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I'm hoping for a Jeff/Jordan Amazing Race teamup. At least Jeff. He is goddamn funny.
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Well, for that matter, Jordan is dang funny, too. And the two of them together had some pretty hilarious conversations. An Amazing Race team-up would be awesome.
agreed!

jeff and jordo are awesome together, really funny conversations. jeff seems like a cool guy, really funny. jordo is so cute
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Who's Brandon?

Chima really screwed her side over. It would have been a lot closer had she had the vote instead of America (assuming she'd vote for Nat) which would have made Jessie's vote even sweeter.

Why they heck don't they let the vote be read a little early so we can see the reaction and get some reasoning as to why they vote? I realize the show isn't as big as Survivor, but the cast reunion on that show is always after the votes are read. Just a ploy to get us to fast forward through the Early Show?
Sorry, his name is Braden and he just looked really creepy last night.
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I'm just glad Natalie didn't win. Couldn't stand that chick(?).

As for a Jeff and Jordan Amazing Race, no thanks. They'd be out within two weeks. As nice as Jordan is, she is just too um...slow in the head to survive that show.
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As for a Jeff and Jordan Amazing Race, no thanks. They'd be out within two weeks. As nice as Jordan is, she is just too um...slow in the head to survive that show.
I don't really think Jeff is any smarter than she is. He's just older, which gives him a little more street savvy.

Every year fans try to get their favorite BB couple on the Amazing Race. I think the Winelle (Will-Janelle) fans sent M&Ms to the Amazing Race producers. The JEric (Jessica-Eric) fans sent over a thousand little teddy bears (woobies) and even created their own website for traffic. Jess and Eric also applied themselves and supposedly made a really funny application video that he promised to share at some point (to the best of my knowledge he never did).

I don't see Jeff and Jordan on the Amazing Race happening.
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My favorite moment last night came from Michelle in asking Natalie if her engagement was a hoax?
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I don't see Jeff and Jordan on the Amazing Race happening.
If Allison made it on, anything can happen.
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Sorry, his name is Braden and he just looked really creepy last night.
His eyes were all F'd up.
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If Allison made it on, anything can happen.
The Amazing Race was pretty desperate for viewers back then and much more likely to go for stunt casting.
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Eric Stein's take on the season (short interview with Jordan if you click on the link):

http://www.realitywanted.com/newsite...ther-11-finale

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! I am delighted with the outcome of BB11. A lot of people asked me why I hadn’t written columns for the last couple of weeks. Well, it’s because I was entirely disinterested and disenchanted with the last few weeks of the game. I felt it was crawling to the finish line. I probably shouldn’t admit to this, but I actually watched the Biggest Loser premiere in its entirety before I caught up on BB on my DVR. But, when I did…I was oh so very happy.

Let me say this…people should really reevaluate what makes a good BB player, because Jordan was a good player and a deserving winner at that. The object of the game is not to win the most possible competitions…it’s to last until the end. So credit the entire final 3 for doing that. But ya know what? She did great in the comps too! The most HoH wins anyone had this season was two – she tied for that. Kevin won 3 comps…she won 3 comps. Which is also the same amount of comps as Adam won on season 9. And only one less than Boogie and Dick won on their respective seasons. She won 2 tiebreakers by producing amazingly accurate answers on the spot on both accounts. That shows she was far more on top of things than one may believe. She was on the block 4 times and nobody took her out. If you don’t think that is impressive, why don’t you ask the 6 people who went home the one and only time they were on the block this season what they think? When you are on the block, you are marked for dead. And she survived 4 times. Being well liked is a skill in this game. Never being the intended target is a skill in this game. Don’t forget, she cast votes to evict Ronnie, Jessie, Russell, and Kevin. In 4 of the other weeks she was nominated (hence couldn’t vote), then the Chima eviction (nobody voted), and the week she was HoH (doesn’t get a vote)…the point being, aside from week 1, she cast votes to evict the person who went home every single time that she voted. And those votes led to the evictions of the game’s biggest threats, all the while keeping the blood off of her hands. Making the “big move” is a matter of perception. Is Jeff getting out Russell or Kevin getting out Jeff really a big move if it doesn’t ultimately result in their betterment in the game? I don’t see why. Everyone has to go, so being the HoH to get out Lydia is just as important as being the HoH who gets out Jessie.

Most importantly, Jordan won the competition that mattered most. She put the game into her own hands by defeating each of the other members of the final 3 fair and square. And she evicted the correct person. Towards the end of the game the strategizing is mostly over - you either win or you go home. And she won. Additionally, Jordan brought a human quality to this game that is often missing in many of the HGs. Beyond a shadow of a doubt, Jordan was one of the nicest, most genuinely sweet people to step foot into that house in years. She was actually probably the single nicest. Certainly the most smiley. And while I would never decide the winner of the game this way, you’d have to be a cruel person to not be happy to see somebody win the money who truly needs it and will appreciate it. How often can you watch the outcome of a reality TV show and say it couldn’t have happened to a nicer person and really mean it? I’m thrilled for her. This is literally instantly life changing for her.

As for the other members of the final 4, I believe that Kevin and Michele probably played the best overall games this season. Both went under the radar before getting involved in important ways when it mattered. Both did it without the protection or benefit of the returning houseguest twist, the clique twist, or the Coup. Kevin, in particular, managed to stay very well liked while exercising great influence on the decision-making late in the game. His ability to contain his naturally larger than life personality showed great skill and awareness; and he was well positioned and able to turn it on when it mattered in the second half of the game. However, they were both plagued by the same thing – they didn’t win the competitions that they ultimately needed to win. I hate to say it, but Kevin will be haunted by that tiebreaker for the rest of his life. $500,000 came down to one question and he lost to Jordan. Michele choked on her final HoH and PoV as well. I’ve been there, done that – it’s not an easy pill to swallow.

Natalie, on the other hand, was not a good player by my estimation. It concerns me that after a while she seemed to genuinely believe her own lies. That is the actual definition of delusional. And as I’ve detailed throughout the season, her lies were often pointless, useless, and inconsistent. Case and point, she makes her nominations to make it seem like she’s not with Kevin (which shouldn’t matter anyway at that point). Then she publicly celebrates his Veto win…. while drinking alcohol…even though she’s allegedly 18. Her conduct during both Pandora’s Box challenges was telegraphed, short-sighted, and bad gameplay through and through. For all of her hot air about competitions, everyone defeated her handily time and time again. And trust me, she was not throwing comps…she’s waaaaay too competitive to ever do that. The girl cheats at pool when they play for fun. I was thrilled that the jury saw through her boisterous claims. The look on her face when Jessie’s vote was revealed made the entire season for me. That said, she lasted much further in the game than I would have anticipated and she did indeed make plenty of strong moves along the way. I just feel she could have played a much tighter game.

As I’ve mentioned before, I was lucky enough to get to hang at the BB house on move in day. Getting to watch an unedited view of the HGs forming those initial impressions was very telling to me. At that time, I stated that I guaranteed a woman would win the season, as every guy had a major fatal flaw that would ultimately prevent him from winning the game. Kevin was the only one who proved me wrong, as the rest of the gentlemen went down to the exact trait that I thought would ail them in the game. I then remarked that I could write 3 names on a piece of paper right then and there (3 hours into the game) and one of those 3 players would win the game. I was heckled by those I was viewing with and told that I think I know more about this game than I do. Well, the names I wrote down 3 hours into the game were Jordan, Michelle, and Lydia. Upon watching the game for the first few days, I wrote my first Reality Wanted column. At that time I put the players into 3 categories, including naming my 3 front-runners to win the game. At that time I listed Jordan, Michelle, and had replaced Lydia with Casey (with a slight asterisk). Note that these predictions were made after 3 hours of game and roughly 5 days of game respectively; and I included 2 of the final 4 and the ultimate winner on both lists. Yes, I am mostly pointing this out just to praise myself. Please hold your applause.

For the record, if I were to have been in the house this season, I most certainly would have aligned with Michelle and Jordan. I believe they would have been my most viable allies in the scheme of this group. The person that I believe would have been the most dangerous for me to play against is Lydia. She was an emotional player, which is very hard to get a beat on as you try to analyze the game from a rational perspective. It was hard to assess where she was coming from and she is a top of the line manipulator. With most of the other players, it was what you see is what you get…but I didn’t feel that way with her.

Overall, I thought this was a very good season, with extremely dynamic, exciting players. As the season has ended, I think it’s fair that I now reveal whom I was rooting for all season. Michelle and Jordan were my tops all along. What a shocker, I know. As if you couldn’t tell that from the rest of this article, haha. Thereafter, I very much enjoyed Russell, Jeff, Ronnie, and Jessie. The four of them managed to combine gameplay and entertainment in a big way. Kevin won me over and made a fan of me later in the game. And in talking to Laura outside of the house, she has a great head on her shoulders and would have been someone I’d like to have seen in the game longer. I particularly did not care for Chima, Lydia, and Natalie in the scope of the game. However, I am smart enough to realize that we are simply viewing the “in house” versions of these people and there’s a great chance that many of them will pleasantly surprise me in person. Just like all of you, I still watch the show as a fan and develop rooting interests. However, I try my best not to pass judgment on anyone until I meet them in person. I have the utmost respect for the game and those who play it.

For the 11 of you who are actually my fans…fear not. I’ll still be here at Reality Wanted offering a few more BB thoughts at some point and my analysis of other reality TV offerings to help tide us over until next summer. Thanks for all of the support and great feedback this season. Much appreciated! I hope you’ve enjoyed it as much as I have.

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