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Supernatural -- Season Finale -- "Lucifer Rising" -- 5/14/09

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The fourth season concludes with Sam and Dean preparing to fight Lucifer in the apocalypse. Elsewhere, Sam and Ruby attempt to kill Lilith.



Sounds like a badass showdown. I cannot wait for this.
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Re: Supernatural -- Season Finale -- "Lucifer Rising" -- 5/14/09

"Can't Wait!!"
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Re: Supernatural -- Season Finale -- "Lucifer Rising" -- 5/14/09

Is it on yet?
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Re: Supernatural -- Season Finale -- "Lucifer Rising" -- 5/14/09

Carry on my Wayward Son!!!!
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Re: Supernatural -- Season Finale -- "Lucifer Rising" -- 5/14/09

Now THAT is how you do a season finale! I adored every minute of it!

It was great to find out that BOTH sides are bad and how, despite the ending being obvious, it all managed to remain thrilling from beginning to end. My only gripes were tha once again I was left wanting to see the Arcangel and I was left wishing this were a two hour finale.
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Re: Supernatural -- Season Finale -- "Lucifer Rising" -- 5/14/09

Very Nice. How long do I have to wait until next season?

Kansas (sniff...)
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Re: Supernatural -- Season Finale -- "Lucifer Rising" -- 5/14/09

a bright light cliffhanger just like lost

son of a bitch
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Re: Supernatural -- Season Finale -- "Lucifer Rising" -- 5/14/09

Great finale. September is too far away.
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Re: Supernatural -- Season Finale -- "Lucifer Rising" -- 5/14/09

Originally Posted by redrum
a bright light cliffhanger just like lost
Yeah, except this one didn't disappoint.
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Re: Supernatural -- Season Finale -- "Lucifer Rising" -- 5/14/09

Great finale.

Ruby's end would have been better if they hadn't been tipping off that something was up with her the entire episode.

If next season is it I wonder if the whole season is going to be them trying to send Lucifer back to hell.
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Re: Supernatural -- Season Finale -- "Lucifer Rising" -- 5/14/09

I think they tipped people off to Ruby being bad because she's a well liked character and they wanted to get fans acclimated to the change. Unlike a disliked character turn in this season of 24.
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Re: Supernatural -- Season Finale -- "Lucifer Rising" -- 5/14/09

That was an excellent episode. I could swear that during the big reveal to Dean in the rococo "green room", everything was bright and colorful until the angel revealed he had been playing Dean, and then the colors became more muted and gray. I went back and watched it, and it seemed like it really did change then... did anybody else notice that, or am I just seeing things.
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Re: Supernatural -- Season Finale -- "Lucifer Rising" -- 5/14/09

Disappointed that only one season remains.
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Re: Supernatural -- Season Finale -- "Lucifer Rising" -- 5/14/09

Awesome finale, though Supernatural has the worst cliffhangers. *shakes fist*

I really wanted to see the archangel and Lucifer.

Looks like next season will start with a bang. And the apocalypse!
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Re: Supernatural -- Season Finale -- "Lucifer Rising" -- 5/14/09

It would be great if they could make a theatrical movie after the final season. You know, a huge farewell and gift to the fans complete with Kansas' Carry On My Wayward Son playing during the end credits as Sam and Dean head off to parts unknown.

Unfortunately, they'd have to bog the whole thing down with tons of backstory to accomodate non-fans. I know X-Files: Fight The Future accomplished just that but it was never intended as a farewell to the series but rather as a means to extend the series. Still, it'd be a cool thing for them to do.

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Re: Supernatural -- Season Finale -- "Lucifer Rising" -- 5/14/09

In retrospect, one thing really bugs me about the overall arc thus far. If, after the other 65 seals were broken, all it took to free Lucifer was to kill Lillith, why didn't she off herself? I know from a narrative perspective it made for a compelling twist but when you stop to think about it, I don't see why it had to a be a well-meaning schmuck the one who killed Lillith and broke Lucifer free.
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Re: Supernatural -- Season Finale -- "Lucifer Rising" -- 5/14/09

Originally Posted by RocShemp View Post
I think they tipped people off to Ruby being bad because she's a well liked character and they wanted to get fans acclimated to the change.
She was well liked when Katie Cassidy played her, but apparently a LOT of people, myself included, hated Genevieve Cortese. Had she gotten a warmer reception, the writers probably would have kept her on the good side.
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Re: Supernatural -- Season Finale -- "Lucifer Rising" -- 5/14/09

Originally Posted by RocShemp View Post
In retrospect, one thing really bugs me about the overall arc thus far. If, after the other 65 seals were broken, all it took to free Lucifer was to kill Lillith, why didn't she off herself? I know from a narrative perspective it made for a compelling twist but when you stop to think about it, I don't see why it had to a be a well-meaning schmuck the one who killed Lillith and broke Lucifer free.
Apparently, she had to be killed at that exact spot by either Sam or one of the other "psychic kids" in order to set Lucifer free. I'm also guessing the breaking of the 65 seals was a prerequisite to opening the final seal.
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Re: Supernatural -- Season Finale -- "Lucifer Rising" -- 5/14/09

Originally Posted by Geddlo View Post
Carry on my Wayward Son!!!!
That was the highlight for me !

Overall, I don't know if it was just me setting my expectations too high, but I was expecting more of an "epic finish" for this season with something more along the lines of the Angel Series Finale.

This should've been a 2hr Season Finale, period. Although we got a kickass "reveal", we were teased throughout the finale (Arcangel battle with Castiel, Lucifer Rises, etc).

Now that we have a cliffhanger and the possibility of Kripke not returning, I don't know if I have high hopes for S5.

Clearly, Season 4 is hands-down the definitive season of Supernatural.
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Re: Supernatural -- Season Finale -- "Lucifer Rising" -- 5/14/09

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She was well liked when Katie Cassidy played her, but apparently a LOT of people, myself included, hated Genevieve Cortese. Had she gotten a warmer reception, the writers probably would have kept her on the good side.
I'm well aware of all the hate towards the "fake" Ruby. Although I still missed Katie Cassidy, I eventually warmed up to Genevieve Cortese. Or perhaps I finally accepted that she would be Ruby from now on. That said, despite the general dislike of the current actress, I always thought Ruby was still a liked character by Supernatural fans and that we'd eventually get Katie Cassidy back somehow.

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Apparently, she had to be killed at that exact spot by either Sam or one of the other "psychic kids" in order to set Lucifer free. I'm also guessing the breaking of the 65 seals was a prerequisite to opening the final seal.
Oh I got the whole fact that the other 65 seals had to be broken before killing Lillith. That's why I mentioned them in my previous post. It just seemed odd that Sam had to be the one. Even with the deal his mom made with the yellow eyed demon, I don't see what made him so special that he'd be the one to kill Lillith and free Lucifer. I was okay with him being powerful enough to kill Lillith but I didn't see a valid reason as to why the seal had to be broken in just such a manner. It just seemed far too contirved in the end.

I think more had to happen than Sam just killing Lillith for his whole manipulation to prove necessary. Otherwise, as I said, Lillith could/should have killed herself in order to free Lucifer.

I think a better resolution would have been the brothers attempting to stop Lillith form breaking the 65th seal, that the seal was nigh impenetrable by any power possesed by any one demon, and the brothers ultimately failed because Sam was suckered into breaking it himself. Just then the brothers go to take on Lillith only to have her perplexingly off herself and through Ruby it's revealed that Lillith was the final seal.
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Re: Supernatural -- Season Finale -- "Lucifer Rising" -- 5/14/09

I dunno, maybe suicide isn't the answer?

I had been wondering how they would get the brother's back together and in just one action it was done perfectly.

I'm not sure that an arcangel would look different then any of the other angels we've seen. I think angels only exist as the bright light when they aren't possessing anyone?

Great finale but I agree with others in saying I was hoping for a little more.
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Re: Supernatural -- Season Finale -- "Lucifer Rising" -- 5/14/09

Wasn't the whole point that the archangels wanted the seals to be broken? Zachariah said that Lucifer should rise, destroy mankind and then Dean gets to kill him so it would be 'paradise on earth'.
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Re: Supernatural -- Season Finale -- "Lucifer Rising" -- 5/14/09

Yes, that was the point. But the brothers didn't know that. And I'm surprised Lillith couldn't do this herself or why one of the angels couldn't kill Lillith instead. Why was Sam so important? And how was Dean supposed to beat Lucifer if he couldn't even take pseudo-demon Sam in a fight?

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Re: Supernatural -- Season Finale -- "Lucifer Rising" -- 5/14/09

Ok episode. The ending was cool but everything in the "green room" was boring
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Re: Supernatural -- Season Finale -- "Lucifer Rising" -- 5/14/09

Originally Posted by candyrocket786 View Post
Now that we have a cliffhanger and the possibility of Kripke not returning, I don't know if I have high hopes for S5.
Kripke said if they (i.e. CW) extended the series to S6, it would be without him. He had always planned Supernatural to end in 5 seasons.

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