Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
 

I can't see how some think season 3 was the worst. it had 3 of my top ten episodes. "flashes before your eyes" was the best desmond episode. "the man from tallahassee" was excellent. "the brig", easily in my top five lost episode, when sawyer finds the guy he has been looking for his entire life. then "through the looking glass" which has been said to be the best finale of lost so far. the season started out slow with the cages but it picked up steam and hit it's stride once they got off hydra island. my favorite seasons are 5, 3, 4, 1, 2. season 2 being last because it introduced all new characters from the tail section, gave us flashbacks of them, and then killed them all off. what a waste. season 2 could've been told in half the time.

Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
 

What happened to Mikal (sp? The eye patch dude who killed Charlie).

Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
 

Really, only 2 options? How long have you been watching Lost?


He died killing Charlie. He set off the grenade that led to Charlie drowning.

Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
 

Did anyone notice that Jacob put one piece of fish on the fire, but when he offered it to fill in the blank there were 2 pieces? And would it just be a coincidence that this miracle is written about in the Gospel of John?

Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
 

This might have been my favorite season of them all. I like being confused.

Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
 

Whatever Happened, Happened was not entirely true in the end. Maybe proof of this was the original numbers still being broadcasted when 316 landed on the island. We shouldn't have heard anything as the losties turned the transmissions off at the tower in the S3 finale.

During the one of the last podcasts they mentioned that the scene where Faraday explains his bomb theory to Jack and Kate was around 10 mins long and needed to be cut down. They really liked the scene though.

The original shot shows him throw a little stone into the creek they were at, and then he mentioned that nothing really changed at all. He then picked up a huge rock/boulder and threw it in, which resulted in a bunch of new streams. I think this is where they are going with the story but whatever plot elements changed we most likely were shown when 316 crashed.

Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
 

GREAT Finale! I'm rewatching it tonight to see what I missed.

BTW - Weren't we supposed to see young Tom (Mr. Friendly)?

Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
 

It would have been cool to see him, or Claire/Walt show up. What can you do?

Another thing that I thought was interesting was the Kate/Sawyer 'flashbacks'. I wonder if they were also proof that Jacob changed things, in smaller ways? Sawyer never finished his revenge letter in the 70s and Kate gets helped out of that situation at the store before she runs for the first time.

Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
 

Of all the things that upset you Gen, I'm surprised you weren't saddened by the most depressing of them all....Hurley will never be credited with writing The Empire Strikes Back.

Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
 

I think this finale is the most thought provoking that Lost has ever had. I think the first four finales all gave a pretty good idea about where the show was heading next. Season 1 told us that season 2 would be about the hatch. Season 2 told us that season 3 would be about The Others. Season 3 told us that Season 4 would be about the Flash Forwards. Season Four told us Season 5 would be about time travel and going back.

What the hell did this finale tell us? For the first time, the finale doesn't really give us any idea on what direction things are headed next. Is it going to be an overall battle of good vs. evil? Is it going to be about erasing the past? Is everyone dead? Is Locke dead? For the last season finale, they decided to give us no clear direction, instead they just put the Oceanic group in the most impossible situations they could, and Season 6 will be about how they get out of it.

I'm glad we got to see how Chang lost his hand. Nice to see the Hurley and Sayid stories filled in. Nice to see the surgery that Jack talked about in the pilot after all this time. Great to see that the statue actually does have a great deal of importance.

But jeez, who's dead? who's alive? Where the hell are they? When the hell are they? So many questions. And yeah, I think the closing blurb being inverted color wise is significant. That's what the cover for the season 5 DVD looks like, so I'd say that's pretty important.

Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
 

Actually, I think the Egyptians on the island were similar to the Black Rock folks and the Oceanic crew, they were brought to the island - but they are not related to Jacob.

Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
 

Not-jacob was "locke"d in the cabin at some point and kept in by the ash around it. Did we ever see who disrupted that? He eventually got out and is able to transform into all of the dead people who have appeared on the island. He has been trying to influence everyone on the island towards the goal of killing Jacob. The only way for him to get to Jacob would be to be able to become a dead leader and then bring someone else, in this case Ben, to do the dirty work. Locke may have been the first opportunity is so many years where it was doable, since Locke died off the island.

Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
 

I enjoyed the finale as much as I'm going to enjoy next eight+ months of theorizing!

Get out those clue notebooks!!

Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
 

Wrong.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l1...ull/Hurley.gif

Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
 

The incident was caused by outsiders, my guess is Chang doesn't want the outside being contacted for fear that more outsiders arrive and possibly screw up the experiments. That could explain the whole quarantine thing.

Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
 

This episode was the bomb, yo!

Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
 

I agree Season 2 was easily the worst. They had no idea where they were going and were still on the mindset of "lets see how much we can stretch this out.", that season had a reasonably cool finale though. (FWIW, my ordering would be along the lines of 1, 5, 4, 3, ..., 2.)

Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
 

IMO this show is a recurring series of events. All the things we have seen keep happening over and over until a "resolution" finally presents itself for the main character (whether that's Jack, Jacob, Jacob's nemesis, etc). The characters evolve in small ways with each iteration but never quite achieve their "goal" -- this is what I took the "loophole" to mean.

The Dark Tower series of books is a perfect example of this (and possibly the Matrix too). My guess is that the very last episode of the series will see the Losties crashing on the island just like we saw in the very first episode.

Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
 

I think similarly, but I think the start of next season will be them crashing on the island again. Followed by new event slightly changed by Daniel, Jacob, whoever else.

Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
 

On another forum, it was pointed out that it was actually Fake Locke that told Richard to tell Real Locke to bring everyone back to the island while he was removing the bullet, and that Real Locke was going to have to die to do it. So if somehow the person being impersonated (Locke, Christian) has to be dead for it to work, Fake Locke set up that part of the condition himself.

And punked Richard into helping him out. Presumably part of the whole "loophole" thing.

Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
 

If Fake Locke and Fake Christian are one and the same -- what happened to Real Christian's body?

Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
 

I have a feeling that both Widmore's story and Dharma's story are finished and the final season will just feature the original losties.

Even Desmond's story might be finished.

Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
 

Used to make fish biscuits?

Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
 

I think it would be a mistake to assign any particular mythology to these characters. I think what we will end up seeing is that these characters may be the basis for many religions that originated in that area of the world.

Egyptians may have based their gods on them, but so may have Judaism, or any of the other Mesopotamian based religion. I doubt that any one mythology will give us a 100% accurate view of these characters.

Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
 

I think people in theUS will flip out if they try to make these characters the origin of most any religion