Battlestar Galactica -- "Daybreak Parts 2 & 3" -- 03/20/2009 -- Series Finale
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Battlestar Galactica -- "Daybreak Parts 2 & 3" -- 03/20/2009 -- Series Finale
Spoiler:
Originally Posted by TV Guide's Erin Fox
"The first hour-and-a-half of the finale is so intense, you'll find it difficult to breathe. So many questions will be answered — including some you probably thought wouldn't be addressed due to time constraints."
So say we all.
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(((bracing himself for the impending the fanboy backlash)))
Hope there isn't one, but I'm seriously doubting this can end well.
Hope there isn't one, but I'm seriously doubting this can end well.
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As long as the black hole/space anomaly has nothing to do with the show outside of being a good hiding spot for Cavil & Company, I'm good to go.
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A U.N. Resolution: 'Galactica' Really Rocks
Bash at World Body Lauds Sci-Fi Show
By Keith B. Richburg
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, March 19, 2009; C01
UNITED NATIONS -- How do you bid farewell to a critically acclaimed
but little-watched television science-fiction series that has won a
Peabody Award and several Emmys?
If that show is "Battlestar Galactica," and its lofty episodes tackle
themes no less weighty than moral justice, equal opportunity and the
fate of humankind itself, then nothing would do short of a full-on
retrospective at no less than the United Nations, which is, after all,
dedicated to moral justice, equal opportunity and the fate of
humankind.
Other, far more popular television series have gone out with a bang
after far-longer runs -- think "M*A*S*H," "Seinfeld" or "The
Sopranos." But none has managed "Battlestar's" coup, a packed chamber
Tuesday night at the U.N. headquarters in Manhattan. There, top
diplomats sat next to the actors and producers from the Sci Fi
network's "Battlestar," debating everything from the use of child
soldiers in wartime to whether water-boarding could ever be
permissible, on humans or on the robotic creatures the show calls
Cylons.
Oh, yes, and add in Whoopi Goldberg, a self-professed "Battlestar"
fan, as moderator.
"The writers write incredible shows," boasted Edward James Olmos, who
plays the crusty old admiral, William Adama -- and who had a little
trouble disassociating himself from his character. He frequently used
"I" when speaking about his character. Noting that the series had
already won a Peabody Award in recognition of its excellence, Olmos
gleefully added: "Now with this? We're blowing them away!"
It hardly seemed to matter that two of the top U.N. officials who
spoke on the four panels admitted that they had never really watched
the show.
Radhika Coomaraswamy, the special representative of the secretary
general for children and armed conflict, said she was a fan of
Goldberg's movies from back home in Sri Lanka, but she had to spend
the weekend watching videos of past "Battlestar" episodes to prepare
for the event.
Famatta Rose Osode, deputy head of Liberia's mission to the U.N., who
spoke on the theme of reconciliation, conceded she didn't know she was
supposed to speak before last Friday and "I didn't see the show."
"You had no idea what you were getting into," Olmos reassured Osode
later. "The last thing you have time to talk about here is a
television show."
Of course, Osode would not be alone. Despite the critical acclaim and
considerable buzz among its intensely loyal fans, "Battlestar," since
its most recent incarnation in 2004 as a dark, space-based drama
series has catered to a relatively small audience: 1.7 million people
tuned in for the first part of the "Battlestar" finale (with the
second part scheduled for tomorrow).
A particular demographic -- young men -- was very well represented in
the audience at the U.N. Economic and Social Council chambers Tuesday
night, which with an impressive light show and some well-placed
placards came to resemble an assembly of the 12 Colonies, as they were
portrayed at the beginning of the series.
For those who haven't seen the show, tens of thousands of human
survivors have escaped annihilation at the hands of the man-made
Cylons and taken refuge aboard a rag-tag group of ships, centered on
the aging warship Galactica. As they search for the mythical 13th
colony, called Earth, they are led by the admiral and, on the civilian
side, by President Laura Roslin, played by Mary McDonnell, who was
also on hand at the U.N.
The invitation-only audience included 100 students from New York-area
high schools, who seemed well-versed on all of "Battlestar's" plot
intricacies, asking detailed questions such as whether "airlocking" --
shooting someone out of the air lock into space -- constitutes a
human-rights abuse.
Olmos, who seemed to stay in character most of the night, spoke
directly to the students in the audience early on when he declared,
"It's unbelievable we're all doing this, in this manner," and then
launched into a speech about how race was an outdated concept, that
the only race was "the human race."
"So say we all!" Olmos cried out into the microphone.
"So say we all!" his loyal young fans cried back in unison, repeating
the ritual several times.
After the unusual outburst, Goldberg tried to reestablish diplomatic
decorum by quipping, "I love that you did it here at the United
Nations."
At times, the forum seemed to be directly addressing the policies of
Bush administration in the war on terror, and it was sometimes
difficult to tell whether the speakers were referring to al-Qaeda
detainees at Guantanamo or captured Cylons in space. In one scene from
the series played over the TV monitors, a Cylon's head was dunked into
a bucket of water as a form of torture -- but of course, not being
totally human, a Cylon cannot die. Only his consciousness is
transferred.
"Suddenly we are presented with this false dichotomy of security
versus human rights," said Craig Mokhiber, deputy director of the New
York office of the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights. "That
slippery slope shows up so much in the show, and so much in real
life."
In a case of life imitating art, Mokhiber went on to declare: "We are
all Cylons. And every one of us is a Colonial."
The unusual event was presented by the Sci Fi channel and the U.N.
public affairs office, as part of the world body's new "creative
community outreach" initiative.
For the cast, creators and producers, it was a chance to show that
this show could reach beyond its niche market of sci-fi buffs and
geeks, to impart its themes of reconciliation and justice to the
entire planet -- something not even Seinfeld or Tony Soprano aspired
to.
"This is an extraordinary opportunity for artists to be able to
connect themselves to the world," McDonnell said.
Bash at World Body Lauds Sci-Fi Show
By Keith B. Richburg
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, March 19, 2009; C01
UNITED NATIONS -- How do you bid farewell to a critically acclaimed
but little-watched television science-fiction series that has won a
Peabody Award and several Emmys?
If that show is "Battlestar Galactica," and its lofty episodes tackle
themes no less weighty than moral justice, equal opportunity and the
fate of humankind itself, then nothing would do short of a full-on
retrospective at no less than the United Nations, which is, after all,
dedicated to moral justice, equal opportunity and the fate of
humankind.
Other, far more popular television series have gone out with a bang
after far-longer runs -- think "M*A*S*H," "Seinfeld" or "The
Sopranos." But none has managed "Battlestar's" coup, a packed chamber
Tuesday night at the U.N. headquarters in Manhattan. There, top
diplomats sat next to the actors and producers from the Sci Fi
network's "Battlestar," debating everything from the use of child
soldiers in wartime to whether water-boarding could ever be
permissible, on humans or on the robotic creatures the show calls
Cylons.
Oh, yes, and add in Whoopi Goldberg, a self-professed "Battlestar"
fan, as moderator.
"The writers write incredible shows," boasted Edward James Olmos, who
plays the crusty old admiral, William Adama -- and who had a little
trouble disassociating himself from his character. He frequently used
"I" when speaking about his character. Noting that the series had
already won a Peabody Award in recognition of its excellence, Olmos
gleefully added: "Now with this? We're blowing them away!"
It hardly seemed to matter that two of the top U.N. officials who
spoke on the four panels admitted that they had never really watched
the show.
Radhika Coomaraswamy, the special representative of the secretary
general for children and armed conflict, said she was a fan of
Goldberg's movies from back home in Sri Lanka, but she had to spend
the weekend watching videos of past "Battlestar" episodes to prepare
for the event.
Famatta Rose Osode, deputy head of Liberia's mission to the U.N., who
spoke on the theme of reconciliation, conceded she didn't know she was
supposed to speak before last Friday and "I didn't see the show."
"You had no idea what you were getting into," Olmos reassured Osode
later. "The last thing you have time to talk about here is a
television show."
Of course, Osode would not be alone. Despite the critical acclaim and
considerable buzz among its intensely loyal fans, "Battlestar," since
its most recent incarnation in 2004 as a dark, space-based drama
series has catered to a relatively small audience: 1.7 million people
tuned in for the first part of the "Battlestar" finale (with the
second part scheduled for tomorrow).
A particular demographic -- young men -- was very well represented in
the audience at the U.N. Economic and Social Council chambers Tuesday
night, which with an impressive light show and some well-placed
placards came to resemble an assembly of the 12 Colonies, as they were
portrayed at the beginning of the series.
For those who haven't seen the show, tens of thousands of human
survivors have escaped annihilation at the hands of the man-made
Cylons and taken refuge aboard a rag-tag group of ships, centered on
the aging warship Galactica. As they search for the mythical 13th
colony, called Earth, they are led by the admiral and, on the civilian
side, by President Laura Roslin, played by Mary McDonnell, who was
also on hand at the U.N.
The invitation-only audience included 100 students from New York-area
high schools, who seemed well-versed on all of "Battlestar's" plot
intricacies, asking detailed questions such as whether "airlocking" --
shooting someone out of the air lock into space -- constitutes a
human-rights abuse.
Olmos, who seemed to stay in character most of the night, spoke
directly to the students in the audience early on when he declared,
"It's unbelievable we're all doing this, in this manner," and then
launched into a speech about how race was an outdated concept, that
the only race was "the human race."
"So say we all!" Olmos cried out into the microphone.
"So say we all!" his loyal young fans cried back in unison, repeating
the ritual several times.
After the unusual outburst, Goldberg tried to reestablish diplomatic
decorum by quipping, "I love that you did it here at the United
Nations."
At times, the forum seemed to be directly addressing the policies of
Bush administration in the war on terror, and it was sometimes
difficult to tell whether the speakers were referring to al-Qaeda
detainees at Guantanamo or captured Cylons in space. In one scene from
the series played over the TV monitors, a Cylon's head was dunked into
a bucket of water as a form of torture -- but of course, not being
totally human, a Cylon cannot die. Only his consciousness is
transferred.
"Suddenly we are presented with this false dichotomy of security
versus human rights," said Craig Mokhiber, deputy director of the New
York office of the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights. "That
slippery slope shows up so much in the show, and so much in real
life."
In a case of life imitating art, Mokhiber went on to declare: "We are
all Cylons. And every one of us is a Colonial."
The unusual event was presented by the Sci Fi channel and the U.N.
public affairs office, as part of the world body's new "creative
community outreach" initiative.
For the cast, creators and producers, it was a chance to show that
this show could reach beyond its niche market of sci-fi buffs and
geeks, to impart its themes of reconciliation and justice to the
entire planet -- something not even Seinfeld or Tony Soprano aspired
to.
"This is an extraordinary opportunity for artists to be able to
connect themselves to the world," McDonnell said.
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Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Daybreak Parts 2 & 3" -- 03/20/2009 -- Series Finale
Oh yeah, remember that in addition to being 2 hours, it is running 11 minutes long so plan accordingly. 9pm - 11:11pm EDT.
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OK, I'm finally caught up on the shows.
Questions: So… are The Five really robots, or are they humans? They apparently have been aging, dying, and being reborn for 2,000 years. And however they were reborn after the attack is my guess as to how Kara was reborn.
What’s up with the chick in the water who mumbles jibberish and who has been replaced by Kara’s husband (who is one of The Five)? What sort of insight was she, and now he, supposed to be providing?
What is so important about that little girl? I know that she is half human, half robot so they want to study her to see how to do it again, but what’s up with her apparent supernatural powers?
Questions: So… are The Five really robots, or are they humans? They apparently have been aging, dying, and being reborn for 2,000 years. And however they were reborn after the attack is my guess as to how Kara was reborn.
What’s up with the chick in the water who mumbles jibberish and who has been replaced by Kara’s husband (who is one of The Five)? What sort of insight was she, and now he, supposed to be providing?
What is so important about that little girl? I know that she is half human, half robot so they want to study her to see how to do it again, but what’s up with her apparent supernatural powers?
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Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Daybreak Parts 2 & 3" -- 03/20/2009 -- Series Finale
This last half of the season certianly didn't do anything to hype up this finale. If anything it let alot of air out of the bag imo.
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OK, I'm finally caught up on the shows.
Questions: So… are The Five really robots, or are they humans? They apparently have been aging, dying, and being reborn for 2,000 years. And however they were reborn after the attack is my guess as to how Kara was reborn.
What’s up with the chick in the water who mumbles jibberish and who has been replaced by Kara’s husband (who is one of The Five)? What sort of insight was she, and now he, supposed to be providing?
What is so important about that little girl? I know that she is half human, half robot so they want to study her to see how to do it again, but what’s up with her apparent supernatural powers?
Questions: So… are The Five really robots, or are they humans? They apparently have been aging, dying, and being reborn for 2,000 years. And however they were reborn after the attack is my guess as to how Kara was reborn.
What’s up with the chick in the water who mumbles jibberish and who has been replaced by Kara’s husband (who is one of The Five)? What sort of insight was she, and now he, supposed to be providing?
What is so important about that little girl? I know that she is half human, half robot so they want to study her to see how to do it again, but what’s up with her apparent supernatural powers?
The chick in the water who mumbles a lot traveled back in time when Locke moved the island and I'm pretty sure that at some point in the future (our past, but only in the 2nd to last timeline) she will evolve into the smoke monster.
The little girl is the result of a "Hu-bot" and a cylon breeding. She was kidnapped by the T-1000 because if they can kill her then she will never grow up and train John Connor to lead the rebellion against the machines.
This show rulz!!!
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http://g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/come...Questions.html
rofl
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FYI: Don't read the "review" from the Boston Herald. Huuuuuge spoilers. I hope the critic gets his ass reamed for publishing finale spoilers when all critics had to sign agreements that they wouldn't. Frakkin' asshat.
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http://g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/come...Questions.html
rofl
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rofl
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Question: Who is Daniel?
Answer: Daniel is my CPA. He said he could get me a bigger refund if I got his name in as a cylon. What, you don’t think I’ve got that kind of pull? I’m the fraking Boomer b****, pop pop (shooting a pistol with her fingers)
Question: How the hell could the Final Five live on Caprica with no one noticing that they had no family members, birth certificates, or child-hood associates? Especially when Anders was a Fraking sports star and Tigh and Boomer were in the military!
Answer: Thanks for joining us, I hope you enjoyed Battlestar. Make sure you catch me on my upcoming gig on A&E’s “The Cleaner”.
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count me in the "hoping the finale doesn't totally ruin the series" camp. Thanks for the info about it running until 11:11, i'll be sure to pad accordingly.