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Decker 03-15-09 05:13 PM

Big Love #32 - "Outer Darkness" 3/15/09
 
Sadly, the penultimate episode of this short but phenomenally sweet season.

Spoiler:
Rated TVMA: ADULT CONTENT, MILD VIOLENCE

Running Time: 55 minutes

Genre: Drama

Buoyed by a visit from Barb and Margene, Nicki returns home after getting a call from Bill, but her spirits sag when his intentions become clear. Exposed by Cindy and Ted, Barb faces a wrenching excommunication hearing at her old church. Wanda performs a makeover on Jodean that has Joey seeing double. Scott shows up at the Henricksons and reconnects with Sarah, though not with Ben or Bill. Ted throws Bill a curveball by demanding a piece of the casino project he undermined. A kidnapping involving the Greenes leads Bill to reconsider his hard-line position on Roman, to Joey's shock and outrage. (TVMA) (AC,AL)



Episode 32 synopsis:
Spoiler:


Written by Mark V. Olsen & Will Scheffer
Directed by Dan Attias

Lois and Wanda prepare Kathy's body for burial. Wanda doesn't believe she accidentally fell down the ravine. Bill and Joey go to see the DA (Ray), insisting that Roman murdered Kathy. As much as he'd like to prosecute, Ray says there's just no evidence. Desperate to convince Ray that he knows Roman killed Kathy, Bill reveals the truth: Roman is his father in law - he is married to Nicolette Grant.

Meanwhile, Adaleen grills Roman about Kathy's death and he tells her what happened. Only Hollis and Selma know the truth, he insists. Roman is desperate to get back to the compound to defend his name.

Bill confronts Nicki about taking herself off the schedule, and she tells him to put her back on. She was just tired. She goes to tell Ray the kiss was a mistake - but tells him, instead, that her relationship with "that other guy" is over.

Jerry informs Bill that their casino license has been rejected by the tribal commission due to an old grudge with the Utes. Bill orders Doug to go to the Ute reservation and make their case. But Doug discovers that it's actually Ted who killed their license. Furious, Bill confronts Ted but Ted insists Bill won't win this one.

JJ, Wanda's brother, shows up claiming he's there to pay respects to Kathy (his wife Kelly is Kathy's sister). He inquires after Nicki, and Wanda warns him to stay away from the funeral and from Nicki.

Bill hires Joel and his cousin Emory (who used to work for the Greenes) to break in and steal the authenticator's report from the lab. He calls Don to tell him it's locked up in a safe at the office. Don takes it from the safe.

When Bill surprises Ted and Cindy at a lunch he embarrasses them, explaining to their lunchmates that he has proof a letter exists that confirms the church never intended to abolish polygamy, and that Ted bought it to hide the truth. Ted takes Bill aside but Bill threatens to blow the whistle on Ted if he doesn't back off Bill's new business and publicly acknowledge the letter's existence.

Cindy comes to Barb, begging her to call Bill off, but Barb refuses. Later, Cindy goes to the Bishop of her church, asking for help "saving" her sister.

Margene is setting up a new business with Jerry's wife, selling jewelry made on the reservation. When she receives a bouquet of flowers she's shocked to discover the love note from Ray (intended for Nicki) and refuses the delivery. Ray shows up at Margene's house, trying to give Nicki her flowers. Margene lets him in and forces Nicki to deal with him. Nicki comes clean with Ray, and when he learns her real identity he realizes she's married to Bill Henrickson. As he storms out, Nicki chases after him just as Bill drives up. In front of Barb, Margene and Nicki, Ray spills the truth about the depth of Nicki's deception.

The family attends Kathy's funeral. Nicki begs Barb for forgiveness but she refuses. Nicki calls Ray to explain how she was forced to spy by her mother, but really had feelings for him. Ray informs her she's guilty of conspiracy, witness tampering, not to mention polygamy and hangs up. Even Margene has no sympathy for Nicki's plight.

At the reception after the burial, Bill confronts Alby about deceiving the church by selling the letter to Ted. When Joey is too wracked with grief to speak, Wanda says a few words about Kathy. Lois speaks as well but is interrupted by the appearance of Roman. Joey accuses Roman of murder while Bill tries to run interference, telling him this isn't the time or place. Alby warns Roman he knows he's undermining him but he wont be scared off. Nicki tells her father the DA knows everything - Adaleen must come forward so Nicki won't end up in jail. But Roman denies knowing what she's talking about: "It seems to me you voted with your hands in a stairwell at the courthouse," he tells his daughter.

Joey busts into Adaleen's motel room demanding to know what happened with Kathy. But Adaleen refuses to tell him anything.

As they are leaving the funeral, Bill asks Nicki if she is coming home with them. She decides to stay the night with Wanda and Joey. But Joey throws Nicki out as well, furious that she spied for Roman.

Joel and Emory bring the information about the letter's existence to Hollis Greene, who comes with his posse to Bill's office after hours to demand the letter. Bill tells them he only has the report but when he goes to the safe to get it, it's gone. As Bowl Cut tries to strangle Bill, Don shows up and pulls the fire alarm when he sees what's happening and the Greenes flee. Don explains he has the report - he thought if he showed it to Vernie and JoJo they'd come back to him, but instead they just laughed at him. Bill comforts Don as he breaks down over the dissolution of his family.

With nowhere else to go, Nicki shows up at Alby's and he takes her in.

Guest Starring:
Luke Askew as Hollis Greene
Robert Beltran as Jerry Flute
Anne Dudek as Lura
Charles Esten as Ray Henry
Patrick Fabian as Ted Price
Judith Hoag as Cindy Price
Željko Ivanek as JJ
Sandy Martin as Selma Greene


CKMorpheus 03-15-09 10:02 PM

Re: Big Love #32 - "Outer Darkness" 3/15/09
 
Very sad, but revealing episode. Next week is gonna be gut wrenching!

BDB 03-15-09 11:56 PM

Re: Big Love #32 - "Outer Darkness" 3/15/09
 
Quality Television.

Jodene with the hair was a little freaky.

I love Albie.

LickTheABCs 03-15-09 11:58 PM

Re: Big Love #32 - "Outer Darkness" 3/15/09
 
So much shit happened in this episode that I'm going to have to re-watch it before next week just to see where the hell it's going. Fuck, I hate that there's only one episode left.

Decker 03-16-09 12:32 AM

Re: Big Love #32 - "Outer Darkness" 3/15/09
 
Nine episodes, all great. This show is totally on fire. Watch, it'll be snubbed from Emmy nominations again. Once on the outs with the Emmys, always on the outs.

Don't quite know what to make of that ending.
(spoiler about the scenes of the next episode)
Spoiler:
The clips from the next episode made it look like Bill was fine, but that was one hell of a fall

dolphinboy 03-16-09 12:38 AM

Re: Big Love #32 - "Outer Darkness" 3/15/09
 

Originally Posted by BadlyDrawnBoy (Post 9328593)

I love Albie.


Public restroom love?

If my wife had had a twin like that and died before we got married, I can't even imagine how creepy that would be. Because you can't deny that you'd be attracted to the person and not in the best state of mind to be making rational decisions or even understand what you're feeling.

This show is simply perfect, but I'm disappointed that it's coming to and end...especially after only 10 episodes.

I sure how that we don't have to way too long for the next season.

mwbmis 03-16-09 12:53 AM

Re: Big Love #32 - "Outer Darkness" 3/15/09
 

Originally Posted by dolphinboy (Post 9328641)
Public restroom love?

If my wife had had a twin like that and died before we got married, I can't even imagine how creepy that would be. Because you can't deny that you'd be attracted to the person and not in the best state of mind to be making rational decisions or even understand what you're feeling.

This show is simply perfect, but I'm disappointed that it's coming to and end...especially after only 10 episodes.

I sure how that we don't have to way too long for the next season.

Plus, Jodene actually kissed back. Given that she's married to Frank she almost certainly neglected. There's a lot going on there.

Great show, but there is a serious lack of likeable people, especially since they killed the kindest, gentlest person two weeks ago.

Since I watched all of Breaking Bad last weekend it's kind of hard to watch Sarah's bf now.

dolphinboy 03-16-09 05:57 AM

Re: Big Love #32 - "Outer Darkness" 3/15/09
 

Originally Posted by mwbmis (Post 9328656)
Plus, Jodene actually kissed back. Given that she's married to Frank she almost certainly neglected. There's a lot going on there.

.

She's actually quite hot as well.


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grrr 03-16-09 03:25 PM

Re: Big Love #32 - "Outer Darkness" 3/15/09
 
Enos is beautiful, but it's her voice that makes Jodene & Kathy. If I were to publish a novel, I'd want her as my audiobook narrator.

Good to see Scott back. More sane characters to whom I can relate, please.

And though it was played mostly for laughs, Barb nailed it when she called Nikki a sociopath. The problem is that without Nikki, there's really no controversy on the show--she's the only one capable of creating the awful situations that the Hendricksons find themselves in every season.

BDB 03-16-09 04:17 PM

Re: Big Love #32 - "Outer Darkness" 3/15/09
 
Cool Clip, thanks for linking it

Match 03-16-09 06:16 PM

Re: Big Love #32 - "Outer Darkness" 3/15/09
 

Originally Posted by dolphinboy (Post 9328751)
She's actually quite hot as well.

She's married to Alan Ruck (Cameron from Ferris Bueller)

dolphinboy 03-16-09 06:34 PM

Re: Big Love #32 - "Outer Darkness" 3/15/09
 

Originally Posted by Match (Post 9330061)
She's married to Alan Ruck (Cameron from Ferris Bueller)

How many other wives does he have?

FantasticVSDoom 03-16-09 09:27 PM

Re: Big Love #32 - "Outer Darkness" 3/15/09
 
Im going to really miss the hell out of this show... Just been a near perfect season and cant wait to see how they end it next week.

tommyp007 03-16-09 09:38 PM

Re: Big Love #32 - "Outer Darkness" 3/15/09
 
After the next ep. it's going to feel like an eternity before the next season arrives. Hopefully, It won't be a real eternity.

Jadzia 03-16-09 10:56 PM

Re: Big Love #32 - "Outer Darkness" 3/15/09
 
That was the music from Vertigo wasn't it?

It was really fitting with the whole twin-thing. Nice homage.

Decker 03-17-09 02:13 AM

Re: Big Love #32 - "Outer Darkness" 3/15/09
 

Originally Posted by Jadzia (Post 9330515)
That was the music from Vertigo wasn't it?

It was really fitting with the whole twin-thing. Nice homage.

Nice pick up. :up: I knew it was familiar.

I wonder if the LDS church is shitting a brick over that temple scene. They're very secretive about their (ahem) more unique traditions and that one couldn't have sat well with the higher ups.

sven 03-17-09 02:39 AM

Re: Big Love #32 - "Outer Darkness" 3/15/09
 

Originally Posted by Decker (Post 9330704)
Nice pick up. :up: I knew it was familiar.

I wonder if the LDS church is shitting a brick over that temple scene. They're very secretive about their (ahem) more unique traditions and that one couldn't have sat well with the higher ups.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_173707.html

majorjoe23 03-17-09 12:55 PM

Re: Big Love #32 - "Outer Darkness" 3/15/09
 

Originally Posted by dolphinboy (Post 9330100)
How many other wives does he have?

I hear he's also married to the actress who plays Jodene.

johnnysd 03-17-09 08:36 PM

Re: Big Love #32 - "Outer Darkness" 3/15/09
 
Best show currently on televison, including LOST.

Coral 03-17-09 08:42 PM

Re: Big Love #32 - "Outer Darkness" 3/15/09
 
Fantastic episode.

Neat to see Aaron Paul on Big Love and then the next hour on Breaking Bad.

Giantrobo 03-17-09 09:01 PM

Re: Big Love #32 - "Outer Darkness" 3/15/09
 

Originally Posted by dolphinboy (Post 9328751)
She's actually quite hot as well.


You ain't kiddin'. She's beautiful. :eek:

Anyway, this show is bangin' on all 8's. I mean wow. I had no idea Bill would go that way with Nikki, and what Barb is going through breaks my heart. I don't know if non-religious people can totally understand what she's going through, but I do think Tripplehorn is doing a great job of giving insight into her strong beliefs and suffering over the consequences of her choices due to her Church's hypocrisy. :up:

Decker 03-18-09 01:06 AM

Re: Big Love #32 - "Outer Darkness" 3/15/09
 

Originally Posted by Match (Post 9330061)
She's married to Alan Ruck (Cameron from Ferris Bueller)

I wonder if she was the first girl to ever have sex with him.

sven 03-18-09 02:06 AM

Re: Big Love #32 - "Outer Darkness" 3/15/09
 

Originally Posted by Coral (Post 9332732)
Fantastic episode.

Neat to see Aaron Paul on Big Love and then the next hour on Breaking Bad.

Big Love obviously loves AMC shows considering Albie is married to two chicks who have been on Mad Men and Margene's neighbor friend is Peggys bitch of a sister.

dolphinboy 03-18-09 08:15 PM

Re: Big Love #32 - "Outer Darkness" 3/15/09
 
"Margene" will be on Letterman tonight.

boredsilly 03-19-09 01:39 PM

Re: Big Love #32 - "Outer Darkness" 3/15/09
 

Originally Posted by sven (Post 9330723)

I thought the scene in question was actually quite tastefully done. Beautiful actually.

I agree with those who say this is the best show on television. It might not get the attention of LOST of BSG, but this show has been great every single week. It's exhausting watching this show. So much happens in every episode. Hell, it doesn't even feel like Rhonda's storyline happened in this season at all since so much has gone down since Bill put her on a bus.


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