dsa_shea

The present on island time is the past.

DthRdrX

When was that confirmed? I wouldn't say so unless we actually see the crash survivors in the past.

redrum

^ was confirmed when we saw Jin driving in new Dharma van

dsa_shea

Thank you! We will see the 06ers run into the rest of the group working for Dharma in their heyday.

Pillowhead

Damnit! ABC Has no signal in Phoenix. I've checked like 3 different tvs. One's on a cable box, the other is my OTA HD Antenna. Nothing.

DthRdrX

No, we only see the people who flashed off the plane in Dharma time. The plane crash and surviviors are on the Hydra island, and havn't been shown in the past yet.

redrum

they wouldn't have locke and the rest in present time, jack has to run into him

The Bus

Juliet, Sayid, Jin, Sawyer, Hurley, Jack, and Kate are in 1974.

Locke is in 2008.

From 1971-1974, Jack, Hurley, Sayid, and Kate were in 2005-2008.

(Guessing on the 2000s here).

Goodspeed is the one who eventually dies in the van.

DthRdrX

Realy? Then why are the 316 surviviors and Ben/Locke at the Hydra station with no members of Dharma to be found?

tlwizard

So that statue looks

Anyone else?

DthRdrX

This is correct. Though we havn't seen Sayid or Sun yet. They can be in Dharma time or present time(2008).

dsa_shea

So then what the fuck is the big importance of bringing them all back? Plus, how is it that they're going to explain Locke's resurrection? Will it be the Losties and Dharma of the past fighting against the rest of the group and Locke with Alpert and gang in the present? How can you have two different groups of people co-existing in one place at two seperate times? Unless they show all of the craziness that occurs when you inject Hurley, Jack and Kate in Dharma while Sayid and Sun work with Locke and his gang. It still doesn't make sense how two periods of time could interact with each other though.

Ephemeral_Life

What a wonderfully written and well-acted episode. One of my top 5 of all time!
Interesting that Daniel was never seen in the 1974 scenes.

DthRdrX

redrum

exactly

that wouldn't work at all if he is in present time

he's gonna run into a 60 year old Jack?

JayDerek

sure he was. remember the very first scene of this season?

DthRdrX

There are two stories going on throughout two timelines.

Past - "Everything that happened, happened." The Dharma timeline. They are showing us everything that happened before Ben wiped them out.

Present - 316 crash / Others in control of island v.s. Widmore

My guess is that Jack and the other 06 members will find a way back to present time before Ben purges Dharma.

Ephemeral_Life

Good point, I'd forgotten about that.

Ephemeral_Life

Well, they are building the Orchid - they'll probably be playing the role of bunnies with numbers painted on them eventually.

DthRdrX

I think he means that Dan wasn't shown during any of the "three years later" scenes, meaning maybe something happened to him. The orchid visit could have happened anywhere during the 3 years.

The Bus

Sayid is

slappy

I really enjoyed the "LaFleur"/Alpert chit-chat on the bench... great scene!

The Bus

We don't know when that is. At that point they are building something. We don't know if that was in 1974, in the 60s, etc.

Disneyboy

I thought the exact same thing.

dsa_shea

Or Dharma, led by a strong minded Sawyer with knowledge of Ben's intentions, will wage war alongside the rest of his Dharma cohorts against Ben and those on his side.