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Damfino 03-04-09 12:38 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
Here are my results if anybody wants to double check, followed by a simple formula that we can use

Base Money = $78

Paid:
$16 {001} A foreign language is spoken. (2:1)
$48 {002} A gun or firearm is fired. (3:1)

balance = 142

minus active bets
{011} A Dharma logo is never shown during the episode. (5:1) - $12
{016} It is shown what caused Ben's bruises/cuts before he got on the plane. (6:1) - $12

142 - 24 (active bets) = 118 available this week

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This formula should work for everybody:

where BM = $78 (Base Money), W = Winnings, A = Active Bets:

Available money = (BM + W) - A

Pinata242 is correct: (78 + 292) - 6 = $364 available this week

outcastja should be: (78 + 489) - 22 = $545 available this week

Damfino (78 + 64) - 24 = $118 available this week.

IDrinkMolson 03-04-09 12:41 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
My Previous Bets:
Spoiler:

My round 1 bets:
<STRIKE>
$5 {001} A foreign language is spoken. (2:1)
$4 {002} A gun or firearm is fired. (3:1)
$8 {004} A dead character has a scene.* (9:1)
$4 {007} John Locke is referred to by someone as Jeremy Bentham (or Jeremy or Mr. Bentham). (5:1)</STRIKE>
$3 {008} Penelope Whidmore dies. (50:1)

WIN: $20 for 007

$24 bonus dollars

Round 2 bets:
{013} The smoke monster appears. (7:1) $10
{015} John Locke's off-island "death" is shown to be a ruse. (9:1) $4
{016} It is shown what caused Ben's bruises/cuts before he got on the plane. (6:1) $10
{018} Benjamin Linus dies. (50:1) $2
{019} Rose and Bernard are shown. (8:1) $8
<STRIKE>{020} An entire episode passes without Sawyer calling someone by a nickname.** (10:1) $10</STRIKE>

$10 for 001
$72 for 004
$12 for 002
$100 for 020

Won round 2:
$194

Bonus for Round 3 = $30

Total: $224

{027} Juliet makes her default wide-eyed perma-smirk face.* (5:1) $29
{028} No new characters (with speaking lines) are shown. We've seen every speaking character in this episode before. (7:1) $70
{029} Sayid is shown building/repairing/fixing something. (14:1) $100
{030} Sayid kills a "named" character (not a red-shirt or new-to-that-episode) character. (20:1) $25

Raul3 03-04-09 01:08 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 

Originally Posted by The Bus (Post 9305289)
The problem is my spreadsheet can calculate total amount won, but it doesn't let you carry a balance. There should be a simple enough workaround, I just wasn't going to find it in time today.

can you post the amounts you have?

Raul3 03-04-09 01:22 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
I knew this was going to be too complicated for me. Let's see..

I had $75 winnings from the first week.

$5 - {002} A gun or firearm is fired. (3:1)
$2 - {004} A dead character has a scene.* (9:1)
$7 - {007} John Locke is referred to by someone as Jeremy Bentham (or Jeremy or Mr. Bentham). (5:1)
$10 - {009} At least three of the Oceanic Six make it back to the island. (4:1)

Those were my bets, which ones were the one that paid? 009 and what else?

For the second week my bets were:
{011} A Dharma logo is never shown during the episode. $10
{014} Two or less major characters are shown before the "Lost" title sequence begins. $5
{015} John Locke's off-island "death" is shown to be a ruse. $10
{020} An entire episode passes without Sawyer calling someone by a nickname. $50

At least have $500 with the last one :D, I don't remember about the others... :(

So I basically don't have any idea on how to proceed now... :p

pinata242 03-04-09 01:24 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
Just follow the examples of tracking your winnings we all have posted. Any of them will work for you.

Bus has given you $78. Add your winnings to that. Subtract the amount you bet that haven't come true yet.

Damfino 03-04-09 01:30 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
active bets
Spoiler:

{011} A Dharma logo is never shown during the episode. (5:1) - $12
{016} It is shown what caused Ben's bruises/cuts before he got on the plane. (6:1) - $12


{023} The word "accident" (or "accidentally") is used. (6:1) $30
{024} Someone gets knocked out. (4:1) $28
{028} No new characters (with speaking lines) are shown. We've seen every speaking character in this episode before. (7:1) $10
{029} Sayid is shown building/repairing/fixing something. (14:1) $50

kaze0 03-04-09 01:59 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
$5 {021} A fake commercial / alternate-reality game is shown. (13:1)
$10 {023} The word "accident" (or "accidentally") is used. (6:1)
$15 {024} Someone gets knocked out. (4:1)

How do we cash out?

BlackCapTen 03-04-09 02:01 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
Active bets:
Spoiler:

{011} A Dharma logo is never shown during the episode. (5:1) $10
{013} The smoke monster appears. (7:1) $14
{016} It is shown what caused Ben's bruises/cuts before he got on the plane. (6:1) $10
{018} Benjamin Linus dies. (50:1) $5


Spending $550, I have at least that much to bet with.

{022} Someone is shown underwater (camera/point-of-view is also underwater). (8:1) $50
{023} The word "accident" (or "accidentally") is used. (6:1) $50
{024} Someone gets knocked out. (4:1) $100
{025} All scenes in an episode are on the island. (3:1) $100
{027} Juliet makes her default wide-eyed perma-smirk face. (5:1) $100
{029} Sayid is shown building/repairing/fixing something. (14:1) $150

Arthur Dent 03-04-09 02:05 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
Paid predictions:
Spoiler:
$8= $4 {001} A foreign language is spoken. (2:1)
$91= $7 {006} Walt appears. (13:1)
$52= $13 {009} At least three of the Oceanic Six make it back to the island. (4:1)
$65= $5 {014} Two or less major characters are shown before the "Lost" title sequence begins.* (13:1)
$310= $31 {020} An entire episode passes without Sawyer calling someone by a nickname.** (10:1)

Total paid: $526


Active predictions:
Spoiler:
$15 {011} A Dharma logo is never shown during the episode. (5:1)

Total active: $15


Available funds: $511 ($526 - $15)

3/4/08 Predictions:

{022} Someone is shown underwater (camera/point-of-view is also underwater). (8:1) $50
{023} The word "accident" (or "accidentally") is used. (6:1) $5
{024} Someone gets knocked out. (4:1) $50
{027} Juliet makes her default wide-eyed perma-smirk face.* (5:1) $30
{029} Sayid is shown building/repairing/fixing something. (14:1) $20


Total bet: $155
Total held: $356

**Updated with correction.

Palaver 03-04-09 02:08 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
Ok... I worked out probably the ugliest looking spreadsheet any of you have ever seen in Google docs. I don't vouch for the accuracy, but it may give some of you a sense on how your doing and how much money you have to play with.


If you get a chance, look at your numbers and let me know if you see any errors. I'm not good at this stuff at all.

Alright... I tweaked it a bit..

Your score at this point should show how much money you have to play with this week before counting this week's seed money.

The way I figured the score was (total winnings - amount bet + total seed money for first 2 weeks).

Everybody got $48 as seed money, except for Bus, Kevinlord, kakihara1, and buzzdalf who only bet one week.

Does this make sense?


http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?k...8aPuDsaVfczHOA

bradler 03-04-09 02:17 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
So I've made this pretty simple for myself:

Spoiler:
Paid Predictions:

{004} A dead character has a scene.* (9:1) $24 = 216
{014} Two or less major characters are shown before the "Lost" title sequence begins.* (13:1) $24 = $312

Total Paid: $528 + $30 for this week = $558

For this week:

{029} Sayid is shown building/repairing/fixing something. (14:1) $558
:>

Shibboleth 03-04-09 02:55 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
I believe I've got a balance of $186.

{022} Someone is shown underwater (camera/point-of-view is also underwater). (8:1) $12
{023} The word "accident" (or "accidentally") is used. (6:1) $15
{026} All scenes in an episode are off the island. (17:1) $10
{028} No new characters (with speaking lines) are shown. We've seen every speaking character in this episode before. (7:1) $13
{029} Sayid is shown building/repairing/fixing something. (14:1) $16
{030} Sayid kills a "named" character (not a red-shirt or new-to-that-episode) character. (20:1) $20

I spent $86, leaving a balance of $100.

Palaver 03-04-09 03:02 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 

Originally Posted by Damfino (Post 9305333)
Here are my results if anybody wants to double check, followed by a simple formula that we can use

Base Money = $78

Paid:
$16 {001} A foreign language is spoken. (2:1)
$48 {002} A gun or firearm is fired. (3:1)

balance = 142

minus active bets
{011} A Dharma logo is never shown during the episode. (5:1) - $12
{016} It is shown what caused Ben's bruises/cuts before he got on the plane. (6:1) - $12

142 - 24 (active bets) = 118 available this week

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This formula should work for everybody:

where BM = $78 (Base Money), W = Winnings, A = Active Bets:

Available money = (BM + W) - A

This doesn't look right to me. You're essentially counting some of your base money twice. You're getting some your base money back in your winnings.

Palaver 03-04-09 03:34 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
Here's mine

$50{023} The word "accident" (or "accidentally") is used. (6:1)
$50{024} Someone gets knocked out. (4:1)
$50{025} All scenes in an episode are on the island. (3:1)
$50{029} Sayid is shown building/repairing/fixing something. (14:1)

dvdhook 03-04-09 03:41 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
Previous Bets:
Spoiler:

Bets that paid off are in blue.

Week 1:

Starting Total: $24 (week 1 base money)

New Bets:
$02 {001} A foreign language is spoken. (2:1)
$06 {002} A gun or firearm is fired. (3:1)
$04 {003} The "Lost Numbers" (the whole sequence) are mentioned or used, directly or indirectly. (7:1)
$02 {004} A dead character has a scene. (9:1)
$10 {007} John Locke is referred to by someone as Jeremy Bentham (or Jeremy or Mr. Bentham). (5:1) = $50

Winnings: $50


Week 2:

Starting Total: $50 (from previous bets) + $24 (week 2 base money) = $74

Active Bets:
$02 {001} A foreign language is spoken. (2:1) = $4
$06 {002} A gun or firearm is fired. (3:1) = $18
$04 {003} The "Lost Numbers" (the whole sequence) are mentioned or used, directly or indirectly. (7:1)
$02 {004} A dead character has a scene. (9:1) = $18

New Bets:
$10 {013} The smoke monster appears. (7:1)
$20 {014} Two or less major characters are shown before the "Lost" title sequence begins. (13:1) = $260
$10 {016} It is shown what caused Ben's bruises/cuts before he got on the plane. (6:1)
$16 {019} Rose and Bernard are shown. (8:1)
$18 {020} An entire episode passes without Sawyer calling someone by a nickname. (10:1)= $180

Winnings: $4 + $18 + $18 + $260 + $180 = $480


Week 3:

Active Bets:
$04 {003} The "Lost Numbers" (the whole sequence) are mentioned or used, directly or indirectly. (7:1)
$10 {013} The smoke monster appears. (7:1)
$10 {016} It is shown what caused Ben's bruises/cuts before he got on the plane. (6:1)
$16 {019} Rose and Bernard are shown. (8:1)


Week 3:

Starting Total: $480 (from previous bets) + $30 (week 3 base money) = $510

New Bets:
$040 {024} Someone gets knocked out. (4:1)
$020 {025} All scenes in an episode are on the island. (3:1)
$050 {027} Juliet makes her default wide-eyed perma-smirk face. (5:1)
$400 {029} Sayid is shown building/repairing/fixing something. (14:1)

Raul3 03-04-09 03:42 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
Palaver, thanks for that spreadsheet.

My bets for this week:

{024} Someone gets knocked out. (4:1) $100
{027} Juliet makes her default wide-eyed perma-smirk face.* (5:1) $300
{029} Sayid is shown building/repairing/fixing something. (14:1) $100

pinata242 03-04-09 03:43 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 

Originally Posted by Palaver (Post 9305777)
This doesn't look right to me. You're essentially counting some of your base money twice. You're getting some your base money back in your winnings.

:doh: You're right. You can only count base money if you don't bet it. And since we can't not bet that, it's just (W + BMn) - A.

W = Previous Winnings
BMn = Base Money for Week n ($30 this week)
A = Active Bets

Updating my post...

aktick 03-04-09 03:51 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
Are you sure we should be subtracting our active bets? I would think it'd be a simple (Amount Won + This Week's New Money)?

Palaver 03-04-09 03:55 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 

Originally Posted by aktick (Post 9305937)
Are you sure we should be subtracting our active bets? I would think it'd be a simple (Amount Won + This Week's New Money)?

Well the thing that messes that up (in my head anyways) is that some of your winnings is tied back up in future bets. That money is not available to you anymore until it pays out.

pinata242 03-04-09 03:55 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
You can bet your winnings, though. You have to keep track of what you have in play.

Maybe we shouldn't have been adding constant money every week :)

aktick 03-04-09 04:27 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
I guess it just seems like there should be 2 "pots" - pot 1 has the unspent winnings + the week's new money, pot 2 has your still active bets (so it would include both "original money" and "winnings" that were bet).

So for example, in my case, week 1 I won nothing, last week I won $372. I still have $10 out in active bets. $30 is the new amount we get this week. So my "pot 1" would have $402. "Pot 2" has the $10 in active bets for now. Say I bet my entire $402 this week, and nothing comes true, plus we get $30 again next week. Before next week's betting, I have $30 in pot 1 (money available to spend), and $412 in pot 2 (still active bets).

But I don't really think it's a big deal, so whatever you guys think I'm sure will be fine. :)

datagirl7 03-04-09 05:18 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
Previous bets:
Spoiler:

Happened 1ST ROUND: - 13 winnings
$1 {007} John Locke is referred to by someone as Jeremy Bentham (or Jeremy or Mr. Bentham). (5:1) – PAID $5
$2 {009} At least three of the Oceanic Six make it back to the island. (4:1) – PAID $8

Happened 2nd round – 250 winnings
$5 {001} A foreign language is spoken. (2:1) –10
$7 {002} A gun or firearm is fired. (3:1) - 21
$5 {004} A dead character has a scene.* (9:1) –45
$0 {006} Walt appears. (13:1) - $0
$8 {014} Two or less major characters before title sequence (13:1) –104
$7 {020} without Sawyer calling someone by a nickname.** (10:1) - 70

Remaining:
Round 1 - $20 seed
$0 {003} The "Lost Numbers" (the whole sequence) are mentioned or used, directly or indirectly. (7:1)
$3 {005} Jack uses his medical skills to help someone. (8:1)
$1 {008} Penelope Whidmore dies. (50:1)
$0 {010} All of the Oceanic Six make it back to the island. 7:1)

Round 2 – $13 winnings plus $24 seed = 37
$0 {011} A Dharma logo is never shown during the episode. (5:1)
$0 {012} Someone other than Sawyer is shown shirtless. (4:1)
$2 {013} The smoke monster appears. (7:1)
$3 {015} John Locke's off-island "death" is shown to be a ruse. (9:1)
$5 {016} Ben's bruises/cuts (6:1)
$0 {017} Someone other than Jack is shown drinking alcohol. (3:1)
$10 {018} Benjamin Linus dies. (50:1)
$2 {019} Rose and Bernard are shown. (8:1)


Round 3 - $250 winnings +30 seed = 280
$0 {021} A fake commercial / alternate-reality game is shown. (13:1)
$10 {022} Someone is shown underwater (camera is underwater). (8:1)
$5 {023} The word "accident" (or "accidentally") is used. (6:1)
$5 {024} Someone gets knocked out. (4:1)
$0 {025} All scenes in an episode are on the island. (3:1)
$40 {026} All scenes in an episode are off the island. (17:1)
$100 {027} Juliet makes her default wide-eyed perma-smirk face.* (5:1)
$0 {028} No new characters (with speaking lines) are shown. (7:1)
$100 {029} Sayid is shown building/repairing/fixing something. (14:1)
$20 {030} Sayid kills a "named" character (not red-shirt/new-to-episode). (20:1)

aktick 03-04-09 05:25 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
My bets for this week...I'll hold on to a good chunk of my money:

$25 {021} A fake commercial / alternate-reality game is shown. (13:1)
$10 {022} Someone is shown underwater (camera/point-of-view is also underwater). (8:1)
$10 {023} The word "accident" (or "accidentally") is used. (6:1)
$10 {028} No new characters (with speaking lines) are shown. We've seen every speaking character in this episode before. (7:1)
$75 {029} Sayid is shown building/repairing/fixing something. (14:1)

So I'll bet $130 this week, and have either $272 or $262 left.

Jason 03-04-09 05:43 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
Active bets from previous weeks (why are we spoilering these?)

{003} Lost Numbers mentioned or used, directly or indirectly.(7:1) - $10
{011} A Dharma logo is never shown during the episode. (5:1) - $4
{017} Someone other than Jack is shown drinking alcohol. (3:1) - $4


Amount available ($30 base money + $250 winnings - $18 current bets = $262

Bets for Week Three


{022} Someone is shown underwater (camera/point-of-view is also underwater). (8:1) - $32
{023} The word "accident" (or "accidentally") is used. (6:1) - $40
{024} Someone gets knocked out. (4:1) - $80
{025} All scenes in an episode are on the island. (3:1) - $60
{028} No new characters (with speaking lines) are shown. We've seen every speaking character in this episode before. (7:1) - $50

DarkestPhoenix 03-04-09 06:22 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
I have $408 won dollars plus my $30 this week, for $438.

{022} Someone is shown underwater (camera/point-of-view is also underwater). (8:1) $35
{023} The word "accident" (or "accidentally") is used. (6:1) $20
{024} Someone gets knocked out. (4:1) $10
{025} All scenes in an episode are on the island. (3:1) $100
{026} All scenes in an episode are off the island. (17:1) $13
{028} No new characters (with speaking lines) are shown. We've seen every speaking character in this episode before. (7:1) $75
{029} Sayid is shown building/repairing/fixing something. (14:1) $15

I'll keep $170 in the bank.


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