Re: Lost -- "The Little Prince" -- 2/4/09
 

I said the same thing myself earlier.

The only thing we know for sure (as you just said yourself) is that Locke and Sawyer have been there for 4 months. Juliet about 3 years longer. The other 3 we have no idea for sure if any of them have been there before.

Re: Lost -- "The Little Prince" -- 2/4/09
 

I don't think Faraday has been to the island before. He's the only one that they haven't hinted at a past on the island.

Re: Lost -- "The Little Prince" -- 2/4/09
 

Only if you believe he was working in DHARMA construction at the Orchid Station as part of a time shift and not as a past visitor.

Re: Lost -- "The Little Prince" -- 2/4/09
 

I've been thinking about this: Do we truly know he has "been there before"?

I know we saw him in the hatch in the first scene of this season's premier, but could that be a flashforward/flashback? Meaning...could that scene be like the one we saw in the last episode with Locke and Alpert, but it was shown to us before it is going to be explained in a future episode? Because if that is the case, then it is not like he was born and lived on the island when things weren't flashing people everywhere.

Haha...the show isn't necessarily confusing (at least we hope the overall plot is explained in the end, right?), but the debate on the theories of what could be, or might be, can drive a person insane. :D

Re: Lost -- "The Little Prince" -- 2/4/09
 

Lunatikk's post is what I meant to expand on in mine.

Re: Lost -- "The Little Prince" -- 2/4/09
 

We're definitely moving towards the Orchid's construction in the past.

Re: Lost -- "The Little Prince" -- 2/4/09
 

I kept hoping that guy from 24 would call Kate "Honey" but he never did. :(

Re: Lost -- "The Little Prince" -- 2/4/09
 

wasn't he shown as one of the Dharma workers that time they tried to drill holes at the Orchid station. Halliwax went there to inspect the work and saw an injured worker.

We also know that Desmond had the same/similar illness previously and he's was there on the island a long time as well.

Re: Lost -- "The Little Prince" -- 2/4/09
 

Yes, but I don't think that's happened to Faraday yet. He's on a path (physically and temporally) to the Orchid's construction.

It happened in the island's past, but that's still Faraday's future now that he's dislodged in time.

They simply need to get the location on the island where the Orchid is/was/will-be and wait for the proper shift in time to be there when they need to be there.

Re: Lost -- "The Little Prince" -- 2/4/09
 

I'd assumed he had jumped off, and would reappear at some point. But, until last night when he DID show up, I never thought about how it would "work".

Faraday mentioned how he, and those on the zodiac raft, must have been within some perimeter of the island in order to flash or jump in time with it. I wasn't sure, but in the season finale last year, it seems as though the helicopter was closer to the island than the big boat. So, if Jin was able to jump with the island, why didn't the helicopter?

I am guessing since the helicopter was still in the air (before it crashed), it would not have been affected. Also, the tanker itself disappeared when Sawyer and Juliet were sitting on the beach after the Island's first move. So, I would think no one physically left on the tanker survived. If Jin was able to jump off, and live, then I guess it is possible he was also within the plane and perimeter of the island and flashed with the rest of them.

Re: Lost -- "The Little Prince" -- 2/4/09
 

Jin jumping off doesn't sit well with me. Sun's reaction to the explosion seemed so concrete that he was still on the freighter when it exploded. But we didn't get to actually see it happen. I suppose he could have been blown far out to sea towards the island.

Doesn't matter, it is what it is.

Re: Lost -- "The Little Prince" -- 2/4/09
 

Rule of thumb for television and movies: if you see an explosion from afar, and there's supposedly a main character trapped inside or nearby -- that character survived. I'm pretty sure I posted the exact same thing last season when Jin "died".

Re: Lost -- "The Little Prince" -- 2/4/09
 

Sure, I'm just saying he didn't "jump". His wife watched what she was very sure was his death and he was in her direct line of sight.

I do find it humorous that he was floating on that piece of debris during all the time shifts.

Re: Lost -- "The Little Prince" -- 2/4/09
 

I thought it was fairly clear that Faraday being present during the construction of the Orchid was due to a time shift. I don't get the impression that he has been there at any point in the past, beyond the time shifts to the "past."

If I wind up being wrong, I will pay each person who watches Life on Mars five hundred Schrute bucks, and one Stanley nickel.

Re: Lost -- "The Little Prince" -- 2/4/09
 

Yeah, I think that was actually a flash forward.

Re: Lost -- "The Little Prince" -- 2/4/09
 

MacGruber .... I mean PepSuber!

Re: Lost -- "The Little Prince" -- 2/4/09
 

We also know that Juliet gets sick/bleeds before Locke and Sawyer. She has been there longer. It only makes sense then to logically assume Charlotte and Miles have been on the island longer. Plus we know, as much as we can 'know' anything about the happenings on the show, that Charlotte, who is looking for where she was born, has a strong connection to the island. Haven't there been four or five references indicating that she was born on the island?




My related question is this; is the illness affecting Charlotte, Miles, and Juliet the same one that plagued some members of freighter? And if yes, why? I have some thoughts, but always interested in hearing what others have to say.





Lastly, looking more and more that Daniel and Charlotte have some type of familial relationship. Brother/sister?

Re: Lost -- "The Little Prince" -- 2/4/09
 

Widmore: "Daniel, I am your father! But a sense another...your feelings betray you. A...sister?"

Re: Lost -- "The Little Prince" -- 2/4/09
 

I didn't want to be so obvious, but sure, why not. Plus I thought it might be a tad stranger if I suggested father/daughter.


:)

Re: Lost -- "The Little Prince" -- 2/4/09
 

The island didn't let Jin die. Simple as that.

Re: Lost -- "The Little Prince" -- 2/4/09
 

That's what I think. Whether he jumped or not, or was near the explosion, doesn't matter.

Re: Lost -- "The Little Prince" -- 2/4/09
 

I think this whole, "The island won't let someone die" stuff (like with Michael and Mr. Friendly) is code for "I know the future and you are alive there, therefore you can't die now."

Re: Lost -- "The Little Prince" -- 2/4/09
 

I picked this up on another site. The writing on the canister found on the beach says "besixdouze". Douze is 12 in french. B612 is the home asteroid of The Little Prince. The Little Prince is a french book.

Re: Lost -- "The Little Prince" -- 2/4/09
 

Let me ask (what I think) is an obvious question about this whole nose bleed/who has been on the island longest issue. If the aneurysm is a function of who's been on the island longest, why didn't Rousseau, who's been on the island for much longer than any of the people mentioned, die? For that matter why didn't the Others, who have been on the island the longest by far, all drop dead of said aneurysm?

Re: Lost -- "The Little Prince" -- 2/4/09
 

Home asteroid, eh? Yet another hint from the writers confirming my pet theory. :)