Entourage - "Gotta Look Up To Get Down" - 10/19/08
10-22-08, 02:46 PM
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Loved the episode. I thought the conflict at the airport was perfect. Ari didn't have doubts about the job. He had doubts about how Vince would react. Remember that Vince is still Ari's biggest star and ticket to money/power. Before he started his own agency, Terence had made Ari who he was and Vince was Ari's only claim to fame.
Ari is supposed to be a very big fish in his respective pond and Vince is his biggest star? How? Look at the movies that he's done. Head On, apparently did OK. Queens Blvd. was a small critical independent. Aquaman was an event movie. And Medellin was a complete disaster THAT WENT STRAIGHT TO DVD!
The other day you saw Ari playing golf with Mark Wahlberg. I thought the implication was that Ari was his agent. Surely, as big a douche as he is, Wahlberg (yes I know he's a REAL star) is a much bigger star than Vince (yes I know it's make belief).
There's no way that Ari would be this big a deal in Hollywood if Vince was his biggest star.
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10-22-08, 03:21 PM
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Vince's loyalty will be his eventual downfall. Every episode he shows time and again that he has loyalty to friends and family, artistic integrity etc... to the point where he has turned down opportunity after opportunity to make dough which he needs. Even with Ari, this move will help his carrer but they won't have the same relationship. But, Vince has said it time and again that not only does he not care about his career from a money/selling out standpoint, but he is from nothing and won't hesistate going back to it. That may be foreshadowing as he may get his big break but he may end up back at QB. He just keeps showing hes not your normal actor and refuses to sell out/sacrifice friendships for money. On a few of these occasions I would have taken the money. (Maybe not Benji but definitely the model gig).
10-22-08, 04:23 PM
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Taking it one step further, Wahlberg's (who's a douche) been in more than 20 major movies, whose overall box office take is more than $1.1 BILLION. Vincent Chase has been in four movies! Even with the biggest box office take in history, his total isn't more than $350 million at best. Again, no way in hell that Vince is Ari's no. 1 client. None.
10-22-08, 06:18 PM
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Taking it one step further, Wahlberg's (who's a douche) been in more than 20 major movies, whose overall box office take is more than $1.1 BILLION. Vincent Chase has been in four movies! Even with the biggest box office take in history, his total isn't more than $350 million at best. Again, no way in hell that Vince is Ari's no. 1 client. None.
10-23-08, 04:51 AM
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I agree with some of the other posters here in that I'll be extremely pissed if Ari doesn't take the job. I'm getting pretty sick of Vince as well. He needs to either take, and keep, a job, or move back home. Let him try to do Broadway or something if he wants to be a "real actor".
10-23-08, 06:37 AM
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The only way it would make sense for Ari to decline his offer would be if it worked to his advantage some other way (maybe trying to line himself up for another studio head job?)
10-23-08, 01:10 PM
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Or he helps Dana Gordon land it and thereby gets Vinnie in Smoke Jumpers. They'd have to come up with a pretty good reason for Ari to not take it though. Something beyond the "let's finish what we started". He fired Ari just before he went and made Medellin b/c he wanted it so bad after blowing Aqua Man 2 over it.
10-23-08, 01:26 PM
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Or he helps Dana Gordon land it and thereby gets Vinnie in Smoke Jumpers. They'd have to come up with a pretty good reason for Ari to not take it though. Something beyond the "let's finish what we started". He fired Ari just before he went and made Medellin b/c he wanted it so bad after blowing Aqua Man 2 over it.
But I do agree with you. I think at the end of the day Dana Gordon will get the job over Ari and Vince will get into Smoke Jumpers. I just can't think of a reason why it would happen.
10-23-08, 03:38 PM
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I think Ari will get the job and bring in Dana as his second. Then his personality will piss off everyone involved (this part will be very entertaining). He will be fired and Dana will rise to fill the position.
In the middle of all this, Vince will get the second lead in Smoke Jumpers.
In the middle of all this, Vince will get the second lead in Smoke Jumpers.
10-23-08, 04:52 PM
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yeah, i didn't get that moment. talk about awkward. what is the big deal? Ari WOULD get him any role and Eric would be his sole manager/agent. seems like everyone would win ten-fold. Ari's love for Vince was so evident in him telling Vince first and then Vince pulls that line and it goes sour for both.
what gives?
what gives?
Vince is a "friendship" guy -
Both Ari and Vince are kind of in the trenches together. It is an US vs. Them (studios)
Now Ari will become one of "Them" and both know full well that Ari will be making decisions on what will best suit the studio - and if Vince is not a hot actor - Ari will turn his back on him.
Both Ari and Vince are kind of in the trenches together. It is an US vs. Them (studios)
Now Ari will become one of "Them" and both know full well that Ari will be making decisions on what will best suit the studio - and if Vince is not a hot actor - Ari will turn his back on him.
10-23-08, 05:06 PM
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Best episode of the last couple seasons. As most have said, Ari better get the job, and this show will benefit from a shake up.
Still my favorite 20-23 minutes a week
Still my favorite 20-23 minutes a week
10-23-08, 10:06 PM
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10-24-08, 11:19 AM
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I think Ari will get the job and bring in Dana as his second. Then his personality will piss off everyone involved (this part will be very entertaining). He will be fired and Dana will rise to fill the position.
In the middle of all this, Vince will get the second lead in Smoke Jumpers.
In the middle of all this, Vince will get the second lead in Smoke Jumpers.
10-24-08, 11:44 AM
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Very good episode. It was good to see Tambor on screen again with Piven. Probably the first time since The Larry Sanders Show.
Loved the stuff with the two writers who wrote the spec script for The Hobbit. Piven was on fire this episode.
Loved the stuff with the two writers who wrote the spec script for The Hobbit. Piven was on fire this episode.
10-24-08, 02:19 PM
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I don't see why everybody is confused over Vince's reaction at the end. Ari and Vince relationship is obviously deeper then just Agent/Client in case you haven't been watching for the past few years. If Ari takes the job he is no longer in daily contact with Vince, they will still be friends and get together but Ari will have way more responcibility. This will be very interesting.
