Agreed.

It looks like this is going to be a pattern... they've already hooked electronics up to a comatose man and a corpse in order to solve their cases TWICE now, and we're only up to episode two.

It's like a Fantastic Four comic book where Reed Richards invents some of kind ion transmogrifier to send the villain to the negative zone in one issue, then the next issue defeats Terrax with an anti-graviton ray he found last year in a Kree warship, and in the next issue defeats Doctor Doom with an isotope destabilizer he just invented...

Seriously? You can't figure out that the show is supposed to be a science-fiction show?

Unbelievable. It amazes me how many people come on these forums and bitch solely for the sake of bitching.

I, for one, love the show, as does my wife...it's been added to our viewing cycle as a regular.

Pretty dull but I'll give it some more time. There is a book called The Alienist that used the same eye technique or rather something really close for the time period. It is really good book that I highly recommend. The show kind of reminded me of the book but there is really nothing in common. hmmm Maybe it is the way science is used. Oh well.

There's a difference between science fiction and lazy-ass writing. This show (so far) has crossed the line, in my opinion.

I'm glad that you and your wife love it. But it's not like this is random bitching. I like to think that I have pretty good taste, a love for science fiction and serialized stories, and a pretty healthy ability to suspend disbelief. And so far, I think this show sucks rocks.

The problem is that the milieu is completely contemporary. And that's where the science fiction fails. We've seen people with cybernetic body parts that appear fully funcitonal, people being wetwired into other people's minds with the implication being that these things are commonplace even though the world presented in Fringe is really no different than the one in CSI or NCIS.

It might work if the show were supposed to be taking place in the near future, like in 2020 or 2030, and have it be some kind of Blade Runnerish cyberpunk thing, but the way its set up it kills the suspension of disbelief. In addition to being lazy writing and creating gee-whiz tech a the drop of a hat in order to advance the plot.

(Could also get into some really bad science, like having an infant grow to a full-sized adult in the matter of a couple of hours, which violates a few basic laws of physics, but I won't.)

I don't think you quite have your finger on it. I agree there is a problem, but it isn't that everybody is a cyborg and everybody is in each other's mind. Those aren't commonplace events in this world. The woman with the cyborg arm is attached to the advanced company, and she revealed the arm in a manner that suggests it isn't commonplace. There would be no point in her removing the covering or even having the covering if 10% of the population had something like it. Similarly, the wetwiring took place in a rusty tank with improvised parts.

A very select group of people with an enormous amounts of either brains or financial backing have been shown to be capable of the "fringe" sciences, if you will, so far. It's nowhere near common place, society is still normal, there aren't clones running around everywhere, you can't go to your local doctor and get a cybernetic arm, etc..

I guess my problem with this show is that the whole "conspiracy" thing is like shoved down your faces. I mean the pilot started the whole Massive Dynamics stuff. I mean with Lost, the show started off as a show about a plane crash and then the weird stuff started with the Island. The eventual conspiracies were introduced as far as I could remember well down the road - i.e. the opening of the hatch.

I do like this show kinda gives me the creeps though.