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Mad Men---Season Premiere---"For Those Who Think Young"---7/27/08 on AMC

Old 07-27-08, 04:22 AM
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Mad Men---Season Premiere---"For Those Who Think Young"---7/27/08 on AMC

Mad Men

Season Premiere is Tonight Folks!!

Synopsis

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The second season opens with Don butting heads about personnel matters with Duck, who wants "younger creative talent"; the staff is up in the air about its approach to an airline-company account; Betty bumps into a former roommate who has begun a surprising new career; Joan is at a loss about where to put the new copy machine.

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I completely forgot this was on tonight. What a nice surprise.
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"Air travel's too expensive to waste on your wife"

Solid opening
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My DirecTV feed of AMC is dreadful. It probably seems even worse having just completed watching Season 1 on Blu-ray.
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All the politically incorrect stuff is gold.

I half-expected Betty to service the auto repairman in their negotiations, but she did learn to use her feminine wiles to get what she wanted.

Peggy and Pete's quick conversation on kids was a bit heartbreaking.

The arrival of the copier and subsequent subplot as to its placement in the office was interesting.

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Old 07-28-08, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by malichai
My DirecTV feed of AMC is dreadful. It probably seems even worse having just completed watching Season 1 on Blu-ray.
One of the rare areas where Comcast beats DirecTV. I was able to see this at my mom's house in HD on Comcast. First time I had seen the HD presentation - looks great.
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I watched Generation Kill and then went right to this. Excellent episode and I do declare Mad Men to be the second coming of The Sopranos.
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glad to see this finally getting a thread on here since the season 1 thread didnt last through the season
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I just noticed in that promo picture that Cooper isn't wearing shoes.

at the confernecec room discussion about Peggy's temporary disappearance at the fat farm.
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The season premiere apparantly did well with 1.9M viewers. I guess that's good by AMC standards.

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-en...ings/800044086
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It's double last season's avgerage of < 980,000. I'm sure AMC is happy.
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Wow! 980K in viewership for a period drama from the 60's. How the hell does this show make any money? I'm sure the costumes and sets cost a fortune. I know cable ad money is nothing like the networks.
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I think they're doing what few Broadcast networks do (FX and other Cable networks seem to try harder): Giving the show room to breath because they have faith in it.

They'll make the money back through DVD sales, product placement (it's a show about advertising, they'll work it in if they haven't already (I haven't seen a lot of the show)), and the fact that it will bring attention to the channel due to the "high quality" of it.
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I was going to mention product placement - for example, gotta figure they got some money from Kodak to do an episode heavily centered on one of their products, even if it is an 'ancient' product.

There was only 1 minute of commercial time, so it's not exactly like AMC is looking at this show to generate sizeable advertising revenue.
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You know that book of poetry that was featured in this ep? Don't know if it was product placement but it went from #15,565 to #161 on Amazon. As of this writing, it's now out of stock.

http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.co...drapers-hands/
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i know i will get flamed, but after loving and being riveted by S1, i was a little underwhelmed by this ep. don't know why exactly, but it didn't blow me away like virtually every ep of S1.
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I thought it was a bit clumsy.

I had expected a continuation of the previous storylines and less of a time leap. Instead they had to tediously present new story after new story. That didn't allow for much in the way of drama or tension.

Betty is off the hook! She's lucky she didn't get raped or called a whore.

I did like Don's speech, "They think monkeys can do this".

I predict:

Spoiler:
...that Campbell is the one falling from the building.


But maybe that's just wishful thinking.

One of the things I like most about the show is how much they do with so little in the way of dialogue at times. Like last season's "Your wife's name is Mona" or "It's Peculiar" etc. This episode's line in the elevator, "Take your hat off!" is a prime example...
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Originally Posted by DJariya
Wow! 980K in viewership for a period drama from the 60's. How the hell does this show make any money? I'm sure the costumes and sets cost a fortune. I know cable ad money is nothing like the networks.
According to this EW article, the pilot cost $3+ million, subsequent episodes cost between $2-2.5 million, and the marketing campaign for season 2 is budgeted at $25 million (AMC's largest ever).

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20203313,00.html
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I thought it was a bit clumsy.

I had expected a continuation of the previous storylines and less of a time leap. Instead they had to tediously present new story after new story. That didn't allow for much in the way of drama or tension.
I agree, it almost seemed like a reboot. Esp wih Sterling and Peggy.
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Originally Posted by orderandlaw
I thought it was a bit clumsy.

I had expected a continuation of the previous storylines and less of a time leap. Instead they had to tediously present new story after new story. That didn't allow for much in the way of drama or tension.

Betty is off the hook! She's lucky she didn't get raped or called a whore.

I did like Don's speech, "They think monkeys can do this".

I predict:

Spoiler:
...that Campbell is the one falling from the building.


But maybe that's just wishful thinking.

One of the things I like most about the show is how much they do with so little in the way of dialogue at times. Like last season's "Your wife's name is Mona" or "It's Peculiar" etc. This episode's line in the elevator, "Take your hat off!" is a prime example...
The Sopranos was notorious for this as well....but I have a feeling we are going to see what happened later on and everything will make sense.

On a semi-related note, how hot did January Jones look in this episode? Jesus I thought I was going to fall out of my chair.
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Originally Posted by orderandlaw
I had expected a continuation of the previous storylines and less of a time leap. Instead they had to tediously present new story after new story. That didn't allow for much in the way of drama or tension.
It was pretty well known that there would be a time jump of at least several months between the seasons. Expect one between seasons two and three as well. And I'm pretty sure that many of the unresolved plotlines from S1 will start to emerge in S2.
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DirecTV's VOD has all of S1 and the 1st eppy of S2 available for d/l...... hurry tho, as the S1 episodes "expire" 8/10/2008. unfortunately =not= in HD.
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When will Directv carry Mad Men in HD?
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Cablevision just added AMC in HD....AWESOME!
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Originally Posted by JeffTheAlpaca
When will Directv carry Mad Men in HD?
I SURE would like to know this as well. I can't stand seeing that "Available in HD" and then seeing it blurry (SD).

Peggy is annoying to me. She seems way to pushy too soon...

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