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Old 05-12-08, 06:32 AM
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I can think of maybe a handful of shows that had less than stellar pilot episodes that went on to do very well. Cheers comes immediately to mind. It struggled in the first season especially, but NBC stuck with it. The days of that happening are long gone, and it is sad. That is why the shows with the best potential get axed and we get ten seasons of stupid reality TV shows.
Well there are a ton of shows that have mediocre pilots that turn around pretty quickly. They're harder to recall. You mention Cheers which was mediocre for 3 years (viewership-wise) which is a little different. Seinfeld also had the 3 year stay-of-execution when it finally took off.
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There was a lot of potential here, I just never thought it lived up to it. I'll miss Grammer on TV, but there's better material for him somewhere else.
Old 05-12-08, 08:54 AM
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There was a lot of potential here, I just never thought it lived up to it. I'll miss Grammer on TV, but there's better material for him somewhere else.
I watched this strictly for Kelsey Grammer (he'll get something else sooner or later), but I won't say that I am in anyway saddened for two reasons: anything that in anyway relates to bringing down Patricia Heaton is good in my book. I can't stand that woman! Very annoying - and it doesn't help that every character she plays is also annoying. Also, the show just looked and felt cheap and tacky. The sets, the wardrobe, the lighting, the writing just okay. What is up with Fox multi-cam comedies looking so bare and dingy?

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Old 05-12-08, 08:56 AM
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Judging an entire season on the first 22 minutes... classic.
So, you watch every episode of every show before you decide whether you like it or not? I'm not sure why somebody who didn't like the pilot should be expected to continue on watching.
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Originally Posted by Chew
There was a lot of potential here, I just never thought it lived up to it. I'll miss Grammer on TV, but there's better material for him somewhere else.

I am surprised they haven't brought Frasier in Chicago to TV.

Not that I think people are demanding such a show, but TV networks rarely care what people want.
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Originally Posted by Groucho
So, you watch every episode of every show before you decide whether you like it or not? I'm not sure why somebody who didn't like the pilot should be expected to continue on watching.
Obviously not but a pilot generally has a different tone than the regular season.
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Originally Posted by calhoun07
I am surprised they haven't brought Frasier in Chicago to TV.
Maybe they still could?
Old 05-15-08, 05:47 AM
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Good episode last night.

So is Montana actually gone for good?
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The "Doin' it again" poster was single biggest laugh I've gotten out of this show.
Old 05-15-08, 07:18 AM
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The "Doin' it again" poster was single biggest laugh I've gotten out of this show.
I agree w/ most posters in that the show was alright, but certainly not very good. No biggie that it was cancelled. Figures, though, that the funniest episode is the one following the news of its cancellation. Again, not great, but last night's was the best IMO.
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Originally Posted by movieking
So is Montana actually gone for good?
I would say they all are.
Old 05-15-08, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Chew
I'll miss Grammer on TV, but there's better material for him somewhere else.
It ain't like he's suffering for cash. He's still the executive producer of Medium...

I tried to watch this show but only made it through a handful of episodes. I missed one and realized I didn't "miss" it so I dropped it. It wasn't really funny, and I honestly had better things to watch on TiVo than this. Of course, I could say the same about Big Bang Theory. Yuck.

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Old 05-15-08, 09:09 AM
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Had my first laugh out loud moment with the show on the last scene with the deer. Something about the looks on there faces was just hilarious to me.
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Only saw the pilot and it wasn't that funny. No loss.
Agreed, thought it was terrible
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I thought ABC or CBS was picking this up if Fox dumped it?
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Nope it's done. I read Kelsey Grammer even called CBS and pitched it to them and their President Nina Tassler said no.
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Originally Posted by calhoun07
I am surprised they haven't brought Frasier in Chicago to TV.

Not that I think people are demanding such a show, but TV networks rarely care what people want.

why would that even be considered, the show was on for, what 11 years already.
why would chicago be any better then seattle?
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Originally Posted by Timber
Had my first laugh out loud moment with the show on the last scene with the deer. Something about the looks on there faces was just hilarious to me.
I lost it when Ryan flipped over the new ad campaign poster. For some reason, I really thought that was hilarious.

Then again, I was watching it Tivo'd at 4AM, so I may have been delerious.
Old 05-16-08, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by calhoun07
I can think of maybe a handful of shows that had less than stellar pilot episodes that went on to do very well. Cheers comes immediately to mind. It struggled in the first season especially, but NBC stuck with it. The days of that happening are long gone, and it is sad. That is why the shows with the best potential get axed and we get ten seasons of stupid reality TV shows.


Although not a ratings juggernaut these days, The Office managed to survive awful first season ratings. So it does still happen occasionally.
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Originally Posted by Jericho
Although not a ratings juggernaut these days, The Office managed to survive awful first season ratings. So it does still happen occasionally.
Hell, Scrubs survived SEVEN!
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Originally Posted by whotony
why would that even be considered, the show was on for, what 11 years already.
why would chicago be any better then seattle?
I didn't say it would be a good idea.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080602/...kelsey_grammer

Spokesman: Kelsey Grammer has `mild' heart attack
1 hour, 49 minutes ago

LOS ANGELES - A spokesman for Kelsey Grammer says the "Frasier" star is recovering in a Hawaii hospital after a mild heart attack this weekend.

Stan Rosenfield says Grammer is "resting comfortably" in an undisclosed hospital after being stricken Saturday. Rosenfield says the 53-year-old actor will be released early this week.

Rosenfield says Grammer — the star of "Cheers," "Frasier" and the recently canceled Fox sitcom "Back to You" — was paddle-boarding with his wife, Camille, when he experienced symptoms.

The couple lives in Kona, on Hawaii's big island.

Rosenfield says Grammer was immediately taken to an area hospital where it was determined that he had suffered a "mild heart attack." The spokesman says he is unaware of any history of heart trouble for Grammer.

This has been a rough couple of weeks for Kelsey!

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Originally Posted by mrpayroll
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080602/...kelsey_grammer




This has been a rough couple of weeks for Kelsey!

Chris
And this didn't get it's own thread why? Apart from Kesley Grammar being the subject of the news story, it has nothing to do with Back to You at all.

I am at times bewildered by the decisions to bump threads for posts that have nothing to do with the topic on hand.
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Originally Posted by calhoun07
And this didn't get it's own thread why? Apart from Kesley Grammar being the subject of the news story, it has nothing to do with Back to You at all.

I am at times bewildered by the decisions to bump threads for posts that have nothing to do with the topic on hand.
Because this was a mild heart attack. If it had been more serious, I would have created a new thread.

And this thread has everything to do with Kelsey Grammer. He took it upon himself to go to CBS and try to get this show renewed.

What is this, pick on mrpayroll week?

Chris
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Because this was a mild heart attack. If it had been more serious, I would have created a new thread.

And this thread has everything to do with Kelsey Grammer. He took it upon himself to go to CBS and try to get this show renewed.

What is this, pick on mrpayroll week?

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