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Old 05-07-08, 07:43 PM
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Hard Knocks Returns To HBO, And To The Cowboys!

I'm still smarting over the death of Inside The NFL, but this fairly awesome series is at least returning and should be pretty entertaining, I'd guess...

IRVING, Texas -- T.O. and maybe Pacman, Tony Romo and Jessica Simpson and, of course, smiling billionaire Jerry Jones. Put 'em all together in a hotel an hour outside Los Angeles and you could have quite a soap opera.

Or, HBO predicts, one heck of a reality series.


Quarterback Tony Romo and the Cowboys could provide the drama reality TV needs.

The cable network is bringing its "Hard Knocks" franchise back to Cowboys training camp this summer, and HBO Sports president Ross Greenburg already is predicting best-ever ratings for his five-show series. Even with the Olympics as competition, he's confident his weekly program will be overflowing with juicy story lines -- with his cameras getting exclusive behind-the-scenes access.

"It's fair to say this thing should go through the roof," Greenburg said Wednesday.

Greenburg opened a news conference by joking about going to Cabo San Lucas or wherever else is necessary to tell the full story. It was an obvious reference to the getaway trip Romo and Simpson made during the bye a week before Dallas' playoff game in January, a vacation that didn't sit well with fans, especially after the Cowboys were upset by the New York Giants.

But Greenburg later said "this is not the E! television network," and insisted the obvious headliners will only get air time if they earn it.

"I swear to you it's not going to be the Pacman Jones or the T.O. or the Tony Romo story. It just won't," Greenburg said. "They will be part of a team and part of the story, but they won't be the center of it all. I just know that for a fact. The drama develops on its own. Unless the drama surrounds Tony and T.O. and others, it's just not going to happen. ...

"There's nothing like following that rookie trying to make the team. They're still wearing that star and they're trying to become a teammate of T.O. and Tony Romo, which is probably their dream. That's great television also."

Expect Terrell Owens to earn his share of time.

"If the cameras are going to be there, I've got to be ready," Owens said Wednesday during an interview to promote his appearance next week on MyNetworkTV's "Under One Roof."

"It's going to be an experience initially, but once you get into practice and two-a-days, guys are going to be too tired to focus on what's being taped. It's not really any different than playing in front of people in the stadium, game being televised. It's no different than our practices being taped. It's just more up close and personal. You get all the good, bad and ugly, the sweat, bumps, bruises and tears. Other than that, it'll be good."

Training camp will be held in Oxnard, Calif., with preseason games in San Diego and Denver before returning to team headquarters.

The last time the Cowboys were in Oxnard, Owens missed workouts with a hamstring injury that some considered a ploy to annoy coach Bill Parcells. Owens spent so much time riding a stationary bicycle that one day he came out dressed for the Tour de France. Greenburg would love for something like that to happen again.

"We'll be on the inside telling the story out," he said. "We're giving the part the media can't see."

Some second-tier stories that could develop include the relationship between coach Wade Phillips and his widely presumed successor, offensive coordinator Jason Garrett, and the plight of undrafted rookie Marcus Dixon, who was once featured on HBO's "Real Sports" show after being sentenced to 10 years in jail for statutory rape and aggravated child molestation for having sex with a 15-year-old classmate.

No wonder Greenburg left open the possibility of stretching beyond the allotted 60 minutes.

"I've taken documentaries from 60 minutes to 90 on the fly," he said. "It's how long the show works, grabs you. That's what we like to do."

This is the fourth edition of "Hard Knocks," and the second to include the Cowboys.

Cameras were rolling in 2002, depicting a ragtag bunch that was coming off a 5-11 season and would go 5-11 again. Parcells arrived after that, and it's probably no coincidence that the franchise and the networks didn't hook up again.

Steve Sabol of NFL Films asked Jones about a return engagement during league meetings. He didn't have to wait long for an enthusiastic yes.

Jones loves pushing the Cowboys brand, working to keep the star logo among the most identifiable in all of sports. Five straight one-hour episodes every Wednesday from Aug. 6 to Sept. 3 is terrific free advertising for "America's Team," especially with all the repeat showings and on-demand offerings. (The only surprise might be that it's on HBO instead of the NFL Network, of which Jones is the chairman.)

Being featured on "Hard Knocks" isn't necessarily great for the players and coaches who will be under the watchful eye of four cameras at every practice, plus surveillance-like cameras monitoring meeting rooms and other typically off-limits areas. Four players per day will wear wireless microphones during practice, with as many as 12 wearing them in preseason games.

Only one of the three teams profiled so far has made the playoffs -- the 2001 Baltimore Ravens, who went from Super Bowl champions to a 10-6 wild-card team. After the Cowboys in '02, the series was dormant until last summer, when the Kansas City Chiefs allowed their training camp to get the "Hard Knocks" treatment. They went 4-12, tying for the third-worst record in the NFL.

"That's why we've got skin this thick," Jones said, holding his hands about a foot apart. "That's part of playing for the Dallas Cowboys. ... I don't think it's a minus at all."

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Well this is good news for the millions of "fans" the Cowboys have who have never even set foot in the state of Texas.
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Good. I like this show, but KC was one boring team. Dallas should make for much more interesting television.

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I'll still prefer Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders: Making the Squad on CMT.
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Instead of Newlyweds on MTV, we now get Hard Knocks with Tony Romo and Jessica Simpson.
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Pacman and TO should be good for some drama.
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Originally Posted by aktick
Pacman and TO should be good for some drama.
That's what I think as well. The Coyboys are far from my favorite team, but they should make for some entertaining TV (once I get over that freakish artifical face that's been transplanted onto Jerry Jones' head -- it took me the entire second season the last time he was on).
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Who did the version that showed in the NFL Network? I remember them doing the Jacksonville Jaguars one year. Not sure if there were other years. I think Dallas could be a pretty entertaining Hard Knocks. So from me.
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Who did the version that showed in the NFL Network? I remember them doing the Jacksonville Jaguars one year. Not sure if there were other years. I think Dallas could be a pretty entertaining Hard Knocks. So from me.
Jacksonville was the only one NFL Network did. The rest were all on HBO.

Baltimore Ravens in 2001, Cowboys in '02, and Kansas City last summer.
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The Ravens one was the best IMO. Team full of characters busting each others balls 24/7.
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Love this show and the cowboys have plenty of drama going on. should be entertaining.
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1st ep was good. Camp marshmallow, lol. Now I see why the players love Wade Phillips so much. I didn't realize how much Jones was involved in the team decision making.
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Thanks for the reminder. Completely forgot about this. I'll have to check the guide so I can get caught up. Fortunately, it will get shown again plenty of times.
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As much as I hate TO. Those tshirts were sweet. iLove (front) Me Some Me (back)
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I like Hard Knocks and I like the Dallas Cowboys. I'm a happy man. But seriously, T.O. and Pacman were really going at it in practice. Dave Campo seems happy to be back coaching for the Cowboys. If they don't make it to the Super Bowl this year, then it just isn't meant to be.
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A good show but I am not excited they are doing the Cowboys again.

Why not do one on the Raiders?

that would be something to watch how Al Davis controls the team and his warped outdated football philosophies.

The Ravens in 2001 was the best one since you had a lot of characters on that team along with future Hall of Famers and they were defending champions which added to the drama and tension.


I liked how Brian Billick would BS guys and tell them we think you are great and can play in this league and you have a lot of potential but we have to cut you.
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Well if this episode confirmed anything about the Cowboys, it's that Jerry Jones definitely runs the show...and he seems surrounded by a bunch of "yes" men. Was Wade Phillips even allowed to speak in the draft room?
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Man, I would really like to find the theme song and music from this show somewhere. It's done by NFL Films composer David Robidoux. Is there anyone out there who can find this for me? Anyone have it?
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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
Well if this episode confirmed anything about the Cowboys, it's that Jerry Jones definitely runs the show...and he seems surrounded by a bunch of "yes" men. Was Wade Phillips even allowed to speak in the draft room?
He spoke when he asked Jerry how he wanted his coffee.
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Originally Posted by Thrush
He spoke when he asked Jerry how he wanted his coffee.
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Well if this episode confirmed anything about the Cowboys, it's that Jerry Jones definitely runs the show...and he seems surrounded by a bunch of "yes" men. Was Wade Phillips even allowed to speak in the draft room?
J. Jones to Jason Garrett: "what do you think?

Garrett: "We already have an every-down back in Barber, so we should take Jones"

J. Jones: "Done. Jones it is."

Wade Phillips slowly lowers raised hand....
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As a lifelong Steelers fan that hates the fucking Cowboys, let me say this:

Thank God it's not the fucking Chiefs again this year!

NFL Films could take the most boring NFL game in history, and with the magic of editing, a snappy soundtrack, and the "Voice of God" turn it into a cinematic masterpiece. After last season, I decided that watching the Kansas City Chiefs rape a pillage a small coastal town would put me to sleep, much less watching them at training camp.
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I didn't realize how much Jones was involved in the team decision making.
Now you know why the Cowboys haven't won a Playoff game since 1996, and haven't won a Superbowl since 1995. Jerry Jones has every right to be the GM of his team cause he owns it, but that doesn't mean he knows what he is doing.
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While it wasn't terribly exciting I still liked the Chiefs last year and so far the Cowboys wasn't anything better.

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