John Adams - Part 6 "Unnecessary War" 4/13/08
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John Adams - Part 6 "Unnecessary War" 4/13/08
I didn't know Adams served during the George W. Bush Administration.
Rated TVPG: ADULT CONTENT
Running Time: 79 minutes
Genre: History, Drama
Rated TVPG: ADULT CONTENT
Running Time: 79 minutes
Genre: History, Drama
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Another great episode. I have absolutely loved this series and I have learned a lot even though I considered myself a history buff coming in. This episode really makes me respect Adams' presidency more than ever before. He could have easily caved in to his party and secured a second term (along with a war), but the country would have been worse off. He stood by his principles...you gotta respect that.
I never really knew how much influence Alexander Hamilton had until this miniseries. How scary would it have been if he was President instead of Adams at that fragile time? I laughed out loud when Adams scolded him and questioned his sanity.
I never really knew how much influence Alexander Hamilton had until this miniseries. How scary would it have been if he was President instead of Adams at that fragile time? I laughed out loud when Adams scolded him and questioned his sanity.
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Originally Posted by TruGator
I never really knew how much influence Alexander Hamilton had until this miniseries. How scary would it have been if he was President instead of Adams at that fragile time? I laughed out loud when Adams scolded him and questioned his sanity.
Huge influence - basically Washington's right-hand, which is what drove Jefferson away. The parties were more the Hamiltonians and Jeffersonian/Madisonians than the Federalists and Republicans. That's what made things so difficult for Adams. The irony is that in the pamphlet in which lashes out at Adams, he does endorse him.
Hamilton could have never been President precisely because he had such a strong dominating personality.
That being said, his contributions to the formation of our constitutional government were immense.
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Originally Posted by CPA-ESQ.
good episode - I liked seeing them live in the "money pit" style white house.
Hamilton had some good ideas - you do need a national army , and treasury
Hamilton had some good ideas - you do need a national army , and treasury
Ah, but wouldn't it have been a grand experiment had Jefferson designed the whole thing from the ground up? Sure we'd probably all be hippies and not nearly as powerful as we (once) became... but I bet we might all be a little happier and not quite as indebted to "The Man"
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Originally Posted by Doc MacGyver
Ah, but wouldn't it have been a grand experiment had Jefferson designed the whole thing from the ground up? Sure we'd probably all be hippies and not nearly as powerful as we (once) became... but I bet we might all be a little happier and not quite as indebted to "The Man"
I absolutely adore this series.
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I absolutely adore this series.
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Maybe but don't forget that Jefferson (and Madison), once they got a taste of the Presidency and the power that comes with it, weren't the freedom-loving individualists that they were earlier in their political careers.
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Originally Posted by Red Dog
Maybe but don't forget that Jefferson (and Madison), once they got a taste of the Presidency and the power that comes with it, weren't the freedom-loving individualists that they were earlier in their political careers.
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"Stop gawking! I'm plain John Adams -- just an ordinary citizen. Same as yourselves." I am sure that that was a hard sentiment for Pres Adams to swallow but after giving much of his adult life to the creation and maintenance of the young republic it probably was a relief.
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Originally Posted by wishbon3
"Stop gawking! I'm plain John Adams -- just an ordinary citizen. Same as yourselves." I am sure that that was a hard sentiment for Pres Adams to swallow but after giving much of his adult life to the creation and maintenance of the young republic it probably was a relief.
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That was great. When he left the Capital, he basically took the 18th C. version of Greyhound back to Mass.
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Originally Posted by wishbon3
"Stop gawking! I'm plain John Adams -- just an ordinary citizen. Same as yourselves." I am sure that that was a hard sentiment for Pres Adams to swallow but after giving much of his adult life to the creation and maintenance of the young republic it probably was a relief.
One more episode to go...
One more episode to go...