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DJariya 03-11-08 01:47 PM

Jericho---"Termination for Cause"---3/11/08
 
Only 2 episodes left after tonight.

Synopsis:

Spoiler:


Jake and the Rangers square off in a battle for survival against Goetz and Ravenwood, while one of the Rangers takes a course of action that will alter his life forever.


Scorpio 03-11-08 10:02 PM

FUCK YEAH! Now that episode rocked!

Silly Burrito 03-11-08 10:08 PM

I didn't think that they'd let Stanley do that, but I guess with 2 episodes left, no one is off limits.

MAN, I hope they renew this show. It's the only thing I look forward to watching during the week.

aktick 03-11-08 10:10 PM

Good episode, but it seems like things have kind of been sloppily put together in terms of writing this season.

So Goetz was removed from duty by Ravenwood - Beck should be informed of this pretty quick, so he should realize Goetz wasn't on the up and up, and therefore shouldn't take any action without getting all of the facts.

And all of this Bonnie/Mimi/Goetz ordeal over $10,000? Doesn't seem like much to go on a killing spree over. Wouldn't it have been easier for the Jericho people to put on a fundraiser for poor old Goetz to get him his $10,000? Maybe $10,000 is a lot in the "new" America.

Still, enjoying this season, and am going to make sure and enjoy the last 2 as much as possible, since I'm sure this will be the LAST 2. :(

Jimmy James 03-11-08 10:42 PM

By the time somebody has found it out, it's not $10,000 -- it's losing all that power that you lord over the county or whatever unit they're using in vertical stripes land.

I imagine if Goetz thought he'd be caught, fired, and killed over it all, he probably would have either gone for a much bigger sum and would have fled or he would have made his $10,000 by shaking down people instead of stealing from J&R.

I speculated last week that it is completely implausible that Goetz didn't search that house and find Mimi, and I say it again this week. You don't go shooting the beloved deaf girl and taking the ledger only to leave the Mimi question open in any way.

Red Dog 03-11-08 10:47 PM

This ain't your kindler gentler Jericho anymore.


Maybe $10,000 is a lot in the "new" America.
That was the only explanation I could think of.

Kevin M. Dean 03-11-08 10:59 PM

I really don't think that this is the only $10,000 Goetz has stolen. It's simply the evidence that would probably lead to much more.

Jimmy James 03-11-08 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by Kevin M. Dean
I really don't think that this is the only $10,000 Goetz has stolen. It's simply the evidence that would probably lead to much more.

Even if this was the first time he has strayed (and it might have been -- I get the idea he was pretty much in the lawless area mode until this assignment), it's a sure sign that he's not looking out for the company/government first and foremost. You can't trust him. Honestly, I'm just surprised that the Ravenwood guy didn't have him shot then and there.

jonnyquest 03-11-08 11:08 PM

Finally...Goetz gets got!

jonnyquest 03-11-08 11:15 PM


Originally Posted by Jimmy James
Honestly, I'm just surprised that the Ravenwood guy didn't have him shot then and there.

I was surprised the Ravenwood guy "disarmed" Goetz's crew, but allowed them to keep their handguns.

Jimmy James 03-11-08 11:21 PM


Originally Posted by jonnyquest
I was surprised the Ravenwood guy "disarmed" Goetz's crew, but allowed them to keep their handguns.

I got a bit confused about everything that was going on there. It seemed from one shot that they were disarming them all and putting everybody but Goetz on the truck to be redeployed (which would make sense). They then went to Goetz and a group of guys with handguns. If we get DVDs with commentary, I have to wonder if they had to cut footage or scramble to accommodate a rewrite without additional shooting or something.

jonnyquest 03-11-08 11:54 PM


Originally Posted by Jimmy James
It seemed from one shot that they were disarming them all and putting everybody but Goetz on the truck to be redeployed (which would make sense). They then went to Goetz and a group of guys with handguns.

The way I saw it was, they were disarming Goetz's crew (maybe "disarm" refers to automatic rifles only). Then the woman said something like "Make them walk back", and the vehicles drove away. Then after the vehicles got out of sight, the Jericho patrol made their move, and the shootout began.

mwbmis 03-12-08 12:05 AM

You know...I truly hate that they made the show this good. Maybe if we can get the lunatics to send in a bunch of nuts we'll get a resolution movie or something.

Patman 03-12-08 01:14 AM

I actually shed a tear when Stan was signing his last words to Bonnie. A nice touch.

This episode was extra minty goodness.

kvrdave 03-12-08 01:18 AM

Great show. I figured they only took the rifles because they were Ravenwood issue.

argh923 03-12-08 02:11 AM

Amazing episode. One more reason why this show should be renewed.

pelenor 03-12-08 03:33 AM

Favorite scene of the night.

Jake: They tried to use you as bait?

Hawkins: They tried.


Man, I would watch a show with Hawkins just doing what he does.

mytzplyx 03-12-08 03:57 AM

Yaaaaaay. Hawkiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiins!!!!

OldDude 03-12-08 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by Red Dog
This ain't your kindler gentler Jericho anymore.



That was the only explanation I could think of.

Alternate explanation: Mimi found "tip of iceberg" and hasn't uncovered the full depth of his thievery yet. It is small enough she may have thought it was an isolated act by a small player. There COULD be much more. Just a theory.

Gunde 03-12-08 08:45 AM

So have have this short season 2 been so far for you guys who hated season 1?

Doc MacGyver 03-12-08 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by pelenor
Favorite scene of the night.

Jake: They tried to use you as bait?

Hawkins: They tried.


Man, I would watch a show with Hawkins just doing what he does.



Hawkins is a total badass. He's the new Jack Bauer. Seriously, all we need is Jake and Hawkins. Everyone else seems to make stupid decision after stupid decision.

The signing scene was surprisingly touching - equally surprising was Stanley pulling the trigger on Goetz.

Also was very (pleasantly) surprised with what Newburn did with that body as a warning to Ravenwood.

Damn am I going to be pissed when/if this thing gets canceled. The devotion of the fans made me give this show a try when Universal HD started playing the reruns, and now I'm absolutely hooked.



-Doc

kvrdave 03-12-08 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by Gunde
So have have this short season 2 been so far for you guys who hated season 1?

I doube many that are watching hated season 1. Season 1 got really slow in the middle, and that was made far worse by the hiatus between the first and second half because a lot of people forgot about it because the second half of the first half was quite forgettable.

If the first season had all been like this, everyone would love it.

Red Dog 03-12-08 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by kvrdave
I doube many that are watching hated season 1. Season 1 got really slow in the middle, and that was made far worse by the hiatus between the first and second half because a lot of people forgot about it because the second half of the first half was quite forgettable.

If the first season had all been like this, everyone would love it.


:thumbsup:

I didn't hate S1. The town stories never did anything for me and were laughably boring, but the Hawkins/coup plot kept me around. Since that is what they decided to focus on in S2, it's been a huge improvement.

Quatermass 03-12-08 11:16 AM

Great Episode! They are still saying "Final two episodes of the season" in the promo spots, so maybe they haven't made up their minds yet. If it is cancelled, I hope they tie up some loose ends, rather than a rushed tacked-on ending like Millennium.
Spoiler:

Jake: Come on Hawkins, let's take this bomb to the town square so everyone knows about it.

Hawkins: Okay, Jake.

Jake : Whoops!

--MUSHROOM CLOUD--

The END

?


mdc3000 03-12-08 12:15 PM

I watched 4 eps on my PVR yesterday that I had been saving (including this one) and DAMN, Jericho got good. Great ep last night, loved the scene with Stanley signing to Bonnie. Can't wait to see how they finish up the season.

Silly Burrito 03-12-08 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by Quatermass
Great Episode! They are still saying "Final two episodes of the season" in the promo spots, so maybe they haven't made up their minds yet. If it is cancelled, I hope they tie up some loose ends, rather than a rushed tacked-on ending like Millennium.

Has there been any word anywhere about the prospect of its renewal? How do the ratings look?

mwbmis 03-12-08 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by Silly Burrito
Has there been any word anywhere about the prospect of its renewal? How do the ratings look?

They haven't been very good so a renewal seems unlikely. At least we have two more episodes.

johnglass 03-12-08 09:37 PM

I hope, if there is no chance of renewal, they end the show with the nuke going off destroying the town and everyone in it.

Second season is MUCH improved over the first.

shadowhawk2020 03-12-08 09:49 PM

Best episode of any show I have watched this season...

paradicelost 03-12-08 09:49 PM

Speaking of the renewal of the show. Didn't the fans fight just to get a conclusion of the show since it was left with a huge cliffhanger last season.I thought it was brought up right away that we were only getting half a season more to get a proper conclusion and that was going to be the end of the show.

Jimmy James 03-12-08 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by paradicelost
Speaking of the renewal of the show. Didn't the fans fight just to get a conclusion of the show since it was left with a huge cliffhanger last season.I thought it was brought up right away that we were only getting half a season more to get a proper conclusion and that was going to be the end of the show.

Officially, no. CBS isn't going to sink that sort of money into a show it can't market as a going concern. That's why there is all this "season finale" stuff. It's also true that if Jericho had become a sensation over these few weeks, they might have kept it going. That very rarely happens, though.

Given all of that, I think the message between the lines has always been that we're getting this as a send off. Indeed, I certainly hope we're in for a satisfying conclusion because I think this is all we're getting.

tenaciousdave 03-12-08 11:51 PM


Jericho Shot Alternate Ending

Carol Barbee, executive producer of CBS' post-apocalyptic series Jericho, told TV Guide that she shot an alternate ending to the upcoming second season that will wrap up the show in the event it isn't picked up for a third season.

The show, which was canceled at the end of its first season last year, was revived after an aggressive campaign by die-hard fans who mailed CBS tons of peanuts, an allusion to a line of dialogue in the season finale. The seven-episode second season begins in January.

"The ending that we planned was always meant to be a payoff for the seven-episode arc," Barbee told TV Guide this week at a party to launch the show's first-season DVD set. "It won't close off the whole story, but it will show you where we would go in a third season." If the show isn't renewed for a third season, "it gives you a huge mythology so that you understand so much about what has happened," she said.

When the show returns, the small town of Jericho, Kan., will again be in total chaos. "We [left] on the brink of war with New Bern," said Barbee. "The government has broken up into factions, and there are several people claiming to be the legitimate government. One of them is in Cheyenne, Wyo., so the Cheyenne government comes to town."

What happens next is a mystery. "They're there to stop the war with New Bern, but they're also there for a secret agenda," Barbee told the magazine.
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index...ory=1&id=44530

orangerory 03-12-08 11:53 PM

I saw the "Final Two Episodes" in the credits and figured we were done for. Bummer.

marty888 03-13-08 08:46 AM

With only 5.9 million viewers. chances of a third season are virtually nil. Too bad, since it has really hit the mark over the five episodes aired so far this season.

Silly Burrito 03-13-08 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by johnglass
I hope, if there is no chance of renewal, they end the show with the nuke going off destroying the town and everyone in it.

Isn't that how Sledge Hammer ended what they thought would be their only season? :)

HAAAMMMMER!

Cardiff Giant11 03-13-08 04:13 PM

watched it last night and loved it, even if we don't get a 3rd season, this is still a helluva last 7 episodes! Hopefully Constantino will get his too!

aintnosin 03-14-08 01:04 AM


Originally Posted by Cardiff Giant
watched it last night and loved it, even if we don't get a 3rd season, this is still a helluva last 7 episodes! Hopefully Constantino will get his too!

I think Jennings and Rall will inadvertently create peace between Jericho and New Bern by giving both towns a common enemy to fight against.

Jimmy James 03-14-08 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by aintnosin
I think Jennings and Rall will inadvertently create peace between Jericho and New Bern by giving both towns a common enemy to fight against.

I think that's pretty much where we got to by the end of this episode, when the Jericho lot (we can assume) let the New Bern lot have the body of Goetz to string up, sending a statement.

aintnosin 03-14-08 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by Jimmy James
I think that's pretty much where we got to by the end of this episode, when the Jericho lot (we can assume) let the New Bern lot have the body of Goetz to string up, sending a statement.

New Bern is really "taking the bullet" for Jericho, since Beck will come down hard on the people responsible for Goetz's death.


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