Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles---2 hour Season Finale---3/3/08
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Originally Posted by Jadzia
I almost teared up at the scene with John watching his 5-year old father playing baseball. I thought that was very well done.
I also really liked the massacre/pool shot.
I also really liked the massacre/pool shot.
Totally agree about the baseball scene. I thought that was fantastic, and such a great gift for Dereck to give John, especially with the reveal that he's known the entire time that he's his nephew.
The pool scene was fantastic, especially since it employed the oft-forgoten "Less is More" technique. It changed what could have been a mindless shoot 'em up into something much more artistic. And I LOVED the use of Cash's song, especially since when Ellison was quoting Revelations to Tommy Gavin's brother, I said, "you know, like the Johnny Cash song." after he was done.
I also have to give mad props to both the show and to Brian Austin Greene (still can't believe I just typed those words) for giving me a healthy respect for the actor. He plays it beautifully subdued with bitter anger and sadness boiling just under the surface. Plus, that scene where he capped fake-armenian in the dome was totally badass.
Originally Posted by Jadzia
I also liked the touch "This wall isn't here in the future" and then they blow it up, thus ensuring the wall isn't there in the future.
Loved this as well, since it echoed - in a minor way - the whole, "sending your own father back in time to knock up your mother" thing. Ah, fun with time travel!
Originally Posted by Jadzia
Does anyone else laugh at the opening voice-over, the way it sounds like Lena Headey trips over the tongue-twister:
"Previously on Terminator: the Sarah Connor Chronicles"
When you say it aloud, Connor Chronicles is hard to say.
"Previously on Terminator: the Sarah Connor Chronicles"
When you say it aloud, Connor Chronicles is hard to say.
(Seem to be quoting the hell out of you, Jadzia - my apologies)
I laugh EVERY time someone says it, whether it be Lena or "The Fox Guy", since my roommates and I always refer to it as some variation of "The Sarah Connor Connah Chrona Conicals....icals" without fail.
-Doc
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Originally Posted by Jadzia
The only thing I can think of is that Cromartie knows that Ellison is on the hunt for Sarah Connor and John Connor so maybe he figures it would be valuable to keep him around in case he finds them for him.
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It was a good 1st season, but I didn't like how they are trying to connect the Bible's Book Of Revelation with what's going on. I don't mind it END OF DAYS, DEVIL'S ADVOCATE, THE OMEN but don't try to put it in a sci-fi show.
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Originally Posted by Doc MacGyver
I also have to give mad props to both the show and to Brian Austin Greene (still can't believe I just typed those words) for giving me a healthy respect for the actor. He plays it beautifully subdued with bitter anger and sadness boiling just under the surface. Plus, that scene where he capped fake-armenian in the dome was totally badass.
I love that he has no sense of personal boundaries (i.e., uses Sarah's toothbrush and rummages through her room) and that he's willing to kill anyone to stop the creation of Skynet.
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Loved the scene with Derek bringing the little girl out. "Not my kid" "Not mine either", then covering her eyes and blowing the guy away. Pretty unexpected stuff.
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Originally Posted by wm lopez
It was a good 1st season, but I didn't like how they are trying to connect the Bible's Book Of Revelation with what's going on. I don't mind it END OF DAYS, DEVIL'S ADVOCATE, THE OMEN but don't try to put it in a sci-fi show.
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Originally Posted by DeputyDave
I haven't seen anyone question yet why black FBI dude (Ellison?) was not killed by Comartie. Cromartie recognized the name when he was told the files were checked out and spared his life when they met face to face. I have a feeling he turns out to be important to Skynet in the future.
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Originally Posted by Peep
Cromartie only kills threats. Not pussies.
I'm thinking what someone else mentioned that he has something to do with skynet...maybe not creating skynet, but killing him would have put skynet in danger (made more people look into his work and get further than he has or maybe someone who knows him would have been distraught enough to stop their work which was a piece of skynet's creation)
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Ok maybe I'm the only one who is bothered by these but
1)So Kyle Reese is alive and like 5 years old in 2007, despite being killed in T1? Even with all the Time Travel this franchise has, we've never seen such a thing. I always assumed die in the past you're dead period. Weird
2)I was surprised Derrek was the older brother. I figured Kyle was. I didn't get to see all of the episode that took place in the future so this may have not been a new thing to everyone but I didn't know it before.
All in all I like the series but for a season finale both episodes were average, this series has done much better episodes.
1)So Kyle Reese is alive and like 5 years old in 2007, despite being killed in T1? Even with all the Time Travel this franchise has, we've never seen such a thing. I always assumed die in the past you're dead period. Weird
2)I was surprised Derrek was the older brother. I figured Kyle was. I didn't get to see all of the episode that took place in the future so this may have not been a new thing to everyone but I didn't know it before.
All in all I like the series but for a season finale both episodes were average, this series has done much better episodes.
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Originally Posted by Cardiff Giant
2)I was surprised Derrek was the older brother. I figured Kyle was.
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Meh. I'm not sure why I'm just not digging this show. I think I was anticipating more action, and less running and hiding. The finale didn't do much for me either.
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Originally Posted by Cardiff Giant
1)So Kyle Reese is alive and like 5 years old in 2007, despite being killed in T1? Even with all the Time Travel this franchise has, we've never seen such a thing. I always assumed die in the past you're dead period. Weird
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Originally Posted by alfredog1976
I don't think being killed in the past necessarily erases your existence. Kyle Reese was still born (in 2002 or whatever year he was born), grew up and time traveled to the past and protected Sarah Connor.
I think I'm giving this show more thought than it deserves.
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Originally Posted by B.A.
The Armenian who blew up the jeep was the clerk in the internet/gaming cafe. Sarah over-payed him the first time she went there and then they slammed his head into the counter when they went back to find the Aussie. His daughter was the one in the back room.
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B.A. is right, the Armenian was the clerk at the front desk. When john found his picture on the computer I realized it was the same guy that Sarah slammed head first into the counter. Also, we never got proof that he was the little girl's father but I think we were supposed to put two and two together to figure that out.
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Originally Posted by Cardiff Giant
1)So Kyle Reese is alive and like 5 years old in 2007, despite being killed in T1? Even with all the Time Travel this franchise has, we've never seen such a thing. I always assumed die in the past you're dead period. Weird
Spoiler:
in 12 Monkeys).
Useless Trivia: The guy who blew up Cameron is the voice of Dr. Venture on the Venture Bros.
While the show is far from perfect, overall I ended up really enjoying it, and really would like to see what happens next...
...which, knowing my luck, means it's probably going to get canceled.
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Fantastic season!
Great performances from all the cast, especially:
Brian Austin Green
Summer Glau
Hopefully, we'll get this one on Blu-Ray.
Great performances from all the cast, especially:
Brian Austin Green
Summer Glau
Hopefully, we'll get this one on Blu-Ray.
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Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ
B.A. is right, the Armenian was the clerk at the front desk. When john found his picture on the computer I realized it was the same guy that Sarah slammed head first into the counter.
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Originally Posted by j123vt_99
Good episode. 2 questions
1) Who was the guy in the last scene who blew up the car and was on John's computer? Were we supposed to recognize him?
1) Who was the guy in the last scene who blew up the car and was on John's computer? Were we supposed to recognize him?
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I wasn't really expecting to like this show at all. I didn't care for any of the actors, the general premise, or the fact that it was going to be a weekly TV show. After sitting through the artificially truncated first season I have to say that this is one of my favorite new series of the year. Sure it has some serious continuity issues but I appreciate the fact that they're keeping things grim and not going all camp on the viewers -- save for a few of Cameron's more painful to watch scenes.
I guess I'll just wait for Fox to do the inevitable at this point.
I guess I'll just wait for Fox to do the inevitable at this point.
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Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ
B.A. is right, the Armenian was the clerk at the front desk. When john found his picture on the computer I realized it was the same guy that Sarah slammed head first into the counter. Also, we never got proof that he was the little girl's father but I think we were supposed to put two and two together to figure that out.
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Originally Posted by Fanboy
I'm gonna guess you've never made the connection between Judgment Day in the Terminator universe and the biblical Judgment Day.
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Originally Posted by wm lopez
Well, the Bible's doomsday has a lot to do with anti-christ which is something that TERMINATOR can't use since it's the cyborgs that are going to end mankind. So why they even mention the Bible's Book of Revelation to try and connect the story line doesn't make sense.