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I don't think the four years that Kate's mom mentions has anything to do with the timeline of when the flash forward takes place.
She wasn't saying that she thought Kate had been dead for four years. What she was saying is that for four years, doctors have been telling her that she only has 6 months to live (we knew she was sick before Kate even went to the island, as we saw in flashbacks). So she doesn't *really* know how much time she has, so 4 years of constantly being told she has 6 months to live COMBINED with several months of thinking Kate was dead changed her attitude toward Kate. That was my take on it anyway. |
Originally Posted by EEz28
3.2 fits in with the "numbers" thing. 23, 32 blah blah; but I'm sure there is a more important reason
I was thinking, why wouldn't Miles just frigging confess as to why they are on the island so he wouldn't be tied up and have a grenade forced in his mouth. Why keep yourself in that situation if you know all locke wants is information. |
Originally Posted by DVD Josh
Could you please clarify the "two year old boy" thing? Does the credits say Two Year Old Boy - Davey Lorban. Or is the actor who plays him two?
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Originally Posted by Charlie Goose
John Locke has been my favorite character since the first episode. Add the grenade bit to his list of Badass Deeds.
Kate "scoobydooed" Hurley. Montezuma walked right into that. :lol: Same here without Locke this would be an average show. I did think this episode was more of a filler one. The ending was way to obvious...unless she just happened to name her baby the same exact name. Given this show that could be a possibility. |
Although Locke is one of my favorites, the show would still be great without him. Sure some of the past seasons had a lot of crappy filler episodes, but the depth of the show is in the storytelling.
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Originally Posted by Aegean2007
Did anybody else expect to see Ben in the crib at the end? Or Walt?
But seriously, did anybody else find that ending really predictable? |
Originally Posted by zuffy
Can it be Aaron in the coffin?
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Originally Posted by calhoun07
I think it's going to be Ben.
I think it will be Ben as well. The question is, will we find out this season? |
Originally Posted by amplified
I think it will be Ben as well. The question is, will we find out this season?
Spoiler:
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AARON HAS BLUe EYES, that BABY HAD BROWN EYES
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Originally Posted by TyroneJordan
AARON HAS BLUe EYES, that BABY HAD BROWN EYES
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Originally Posted by Jimmy James
Don't all babies start out with blue eyes, even when they change to brown later?
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Originally Posted by EEz28
The book given to Ben was VALIS by Philip K Dick
Caravan Of Dreams by Idries Shah Farhenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury The Glass Menegerie by Tennessee Williams The Sheltering Sky by Paul Bowles And one book each by Arthur C. Clarke and Kurt Vonnegut. The rest of the spines are unreadable. |
Another thing for you Close Caption people out there: when Kate comes out of the car and is confronted by the press, there is one guy who seems very out of place and clearly not from the media. He's got a white t-shirt on and a jean coat with wool on the top and a scraggly beard. As Kate goes by he screams at her something which sounds like, "we'll get you all!" You have to pause to get a really good look at the guy. It's only a second or so.
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I called the baby being Aaron the minute Kate said that she had a son.
I actually liked Locke for a few seconds when he fed Miles the grenade. cracksky - I noticed that dude, too. |
Originally Posted by cracksky
Another thing for you Close Caption people out there: when Kate comes out of the car and is confronted by the press, there is one guy who seems very out of place and clearly not from the media. He's got a white t-shirt on and a jean coat with wool on the top and a scraggly beard. As Kate goes by he screams at her something which sounds like, "we'll get you all!" You have to pause to get a really good look at the guy. It's only a second or so.
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Originally Posted by Palaver
Yeah. What was up with that? My first thought was that he was trying to remember the sequence after being shown the cards (we didn't see the start of that experiment, did we?) Maybe the island affects short term memory.
I guess it makes more sense that he was trying to predict. Either way, it was an interesting scene. |
Originally Posted by jjamesc
I don't think the four years that Kate's mom mentions has anything to do with the timeline of when the flash forward takes place.
She wasn't saying that she thought Kate had been dead for four years. What she was saying is that for four years, doctors have been telling her that she only has 6 months to live (we knew she was sick before Kate even went to the island, as we saw in flashbacks). So she doesn't *really* know how much time she has, so 4 years of constantly being told she has 6 months to live COMBINED with several months of thinking Kate was dead changed her attitude toward Kate. That was my take on it anyway. Now we have the complication of the "two year old boy". But clearly the island the real world are not synced timewise (see the payload experiment conducted by Daniel). While possible, I don't think Aaron is going to suddenly age two years the second he comes off of the island. So he's at least been off for about two years. The question is how long of a gap is there between island and real time. I've said before I don't think it's a constant multiplier, so to me, two years might be a reasonable period of time. So, using this theory, I would estimate this timeline (all dates in real time) 2003: Kate in hospital. 2004: Crash 2005: Rescue 2007: Trial of Kate 2009: Meeting of Jack / Kate at the airport 2010: End of LOST Series |
Originally Posted by JZ1276
is everyone forgetting the clipping revealed part of the name. Werent the letters "JA ATHAM " visible? How could it be Michael, or Ben?
No, we haven't forgotten (and you won't let us). But, I wouldn't put too much stock into it. |
considering how the members of the oceanic six are very worried about a secret getting out (Jack visiting Hurley in the nut house to make sure he didn't tell; Kate interrupting Jack's testimony at her trial), I think it's pretty likely that anybody who happens to leave the island who isn't part of the O6 is probably going to have to use an alias.
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Matthew fox stated in an interview that the crash, as we know, happened in September of 2004. And when we see him all bearded up and depressed is approximately 18 months after the crash. I seriously doubt that they are trying to keep the time of the show with realtime. It would be damn near impossible. Every episode we watch is either a day or two of island time and not real time.
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Originally Posted by B.A.
I called the baby being Aaron the minute Kate said that she had a son.
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Originally Posted by JZ1276 is everyone forgetting the clipping revealed part of the name. Werent the letters "JA ATHAM " visible? How could it be Michael, or Ben? Jack seems to come to know Ben very well, and may even discover the aliases Ben uses for his off island travels, and knows Ben's alias in America, and thus recognizes the name in the paper not as the actual name but as Ben's alias. |
Originally Posted by DVD Josh
Now we have the complication of the "two year old boy". But clearly the island the real world are not synced timewise (see the payload experiment conducted by Daniel). While possible, I don't think Aaron is going to suddenly age two years the second he comes off of the island. So he's at least been off for about two years. The question is how long of a gap is there between island and real time. I've said before I don't think it's a constant multiplier, so to me, two years might be a reasonable period of time.
The ageless theory on the island also works because eyeliner man who works with Ben appeared to be the same age now as he was when he encountered Ben as a young boy. The island doesn't just help people heal faster but it also slows down the aging process considerably. So if the rescue is in 2005 and Aaron pretty much hasn't aged on the island and the trial of Kate is in 2007, then yeah...he'd look like he's two years old because he started aging normally off the island. |
If something happens to Claire, it must be after she and Aaron gets on a helicopter. Desmond had a vision of them getting on a helicopter in the season 3 finale. So far, this vision is the furtherest out we've seen, as it's been a few days since he had it, and she hasn't done it yet. This vision should come true since all of his other visions (except when the times he saved Charlie) have come true.
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