Journeyman---"Perfidia"---Series Finale--12/19/07
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Originally Posted by aynrandgirl
None of which explains why Livia knows the exact date she travels to. In the scene where she must have been plucked from the bathroom (wet hair), I don't see where she would have had time to read a newspaper, yet she tells Dan the exact date.
If I remember Dan asked the year in the nut house but Livia knew the dates the next two times.
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Originally Posted by aynrandgirl
None of which explains why Livia knows the exact date she travels to. In the scene where she must have been plucked from the bathroom (wet hair), I don't see where she would have had time to read a newspaper, yet she tells Dan the exact date.
And, there are times when Dan gets the jump on her with the date, but that's mainly due to his personal connections with the events.
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still in dis-belief a show this well written and acted could go so un-noticed not only by NBC but casual viewers and i 100% put the blame on the network for the timeslot as well as the serious lack of promotion. i wish i were a neilson household so i could lock out NBC and not allow anything to be watched on that network in my house. since USA has cancelled Dead Zone and 4400, do we start hitting them up to pick up the show? im sure 5M viewers on a cable network would be a welcomed sight for them
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Originally Posted by DJariya
This was defininitely not a 10pm show. I think if NBC would have put this on Wednesday's at 8 or 9pm, it would have done so much better.
Maybe the 9pm Heroes' audience goes to bed at 10pm??
Maybe the 9pm Heroes' audience goes to bed at 10pm??
This is NBC we're talking about here. They didn't have a collapse for no reason.
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I don't care what NBC puts on 10PM Monday night next year, I'm not watching. This is the second year in a row I've been burned with that time slot. It's just not worth it.
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great episode and served as an ok series finale. Still wish there were more episodes. With Dead Zone and 4400 being cancelled maybe there is a snowball's chance in hell this will somehow end up on USA but I'm doubtful. Well folks it's been a nice run, I'm sure I'll see some of you in the upcoming Jericho threads where hopefully we won't lose another one.
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AHHHH!! My stupid DVR cut off the last 10 minutes. Must have been the rain. Can someone please summarize how it ended!!!
http://www.nbc.com/Journeyman/video/episodes.shtml
#35
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Originally Posted by Chew
The final scene was awesome. It was the perfect end: you're happy if this is actually the last episode, but it's wide open for more.
The zoom in on the eye was kind of weird, but everything else about it was aces.
I also liked how Langley explained why Dan should try to keep his secret a secret, because for the longest I thought why not tell your brother? sister-in-law? Especially when they all think you're crazy. I feel like they needed to give a reason for that, and they did.
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The final scene gave me a chill. I don't mind series being canceled as long as it ends with some closure. There are quite a few series that lose there steam in a sophomore slump. Maybe they have it right in the UK with 10-13 episode season. It seems to be about the right length for a solid story arc. The pattern seems to be 13 up front with an optional back 9.
My point .... They should always film alternate scenes for the 13th episode in case of cancellation.
My point .... They should always film alternate scenes for the 13th episode in case of cancellation.
Last edited by Ayre; 12-21-07 at 06:35 AM.
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Originally Posted by boredsilly
I also liked how Langley explained why Dan should try to keep his secret a secret, because for the longest I thought why not tell your brother? sister-in-law? Especially when they all think you're crazy. I feel like they needed to give a reason for that, and they did.
The coolest aspect of this to me was the "chosen one" aspect. When one dies, the next one is enabled. What I find odd is that Livia seems to be "paired" with Dan - ultimately helping to enable his power. So WAS Dan her mission the ENTIRE TIME? When they said goodbye at the end, I think they realized that that was why she'd even met Dan in the first place - so she could assist him in using his newly acquired powers as well as helping him make sure they were activated. Whoa...
Okay this is the THIRD time I've been burned by shows in this timeslot (previously Studio 60 and The Black Donnellys). I'm about to avoid any show in the slot too - though admittedly I'd have missed the 13 awesome hours of this show. BRAVO!
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I know this link has been posted before, but I wanted to keep this in front of everyone who's interested in trying to save Journeyman:
http://savejourneyman.funurl.com/
There are a number of things being done, including mailing packages of Rice-a-roni, and sending letters or emails to NBC executives. There's a blog with updates on what's happening. Sure, it looks down and out now, but who knows? All of us who love this show should do our part to let the folks at NBC know how we feel. It may just make a difference.
http://savejourneyman.funurl.com/
There are a number of things being done, including mailing packages of Rice-a-roni, and sending letters or emails to NBC executives. There's a blog with updates on what's happening. Sure, it looks down and out now, but who knows? All of us who love this show should do our part to let the folks at NBC know how we feel. It may just make a difference.
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Originally Posted by rfduncan
The coolest aspect of this to me was the "chosen one" aspect. When one dies, the next one is enabled. What I find odd is that Livia seems to be "paired" with Dan - ultimately helping to enable his power. So WAS Dan her mission the ENTIRE TIME? When they said goodbye at the end, I think they realized that that was why she'd even met Dan in the first place - so she could assist him in using his newly acquired powers as well as helping him make sure they were activated. Whoa...
Why don't they know about Livia though? I'm more confused having seen this last episode then I was before. Was the scientist saying that he could control the travelers or that he just kept track of them?
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Originally Posted by Timber
So wait. I think it was Das that brought it up a couple of months ago that Dan was Livia's "project". Maybe the mission all along was to have the previous traveler die of natural causes? Or at least lived long enough so that he could die and that Dan could take over? So know we are to assume that she's done and gets to go get married and live happily ever after?
Originally Posted by Timber
Why don't they know about Livia though? I'm more confused having seen this last episode then I was before. Was the scientist saying that he could control the travelers or that he just kept track of them?
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I watched the last episode again last night. Interesting to watch since you know, the second time. that the other traveler is not crazy and that he really was actually Married to the Woman.
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I love how all movies and shows act like upper level physics class have huge lecture halls. I wish I could experience that, all of mine were in small ass rooms with 20 people max. Hell even my intro level classes weren't half as packed as that lecture hall.
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Just chiming in with a bit more Journeyman love. I always looked forward to this far more than Chuck on Mondays. It's a shame that got a full season while this got the NBC shaft. Very classy wrap up episode, but here's hoping for a miracle renewal.
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I'm hoping that 20th Century FOX will eventually release "The Complete Series" however I am a little concerned with the WGA strike going on that we may get zero participation from the creative team in interviews/commentaries. This is the type of show that would really interest me hearing some input from the cast/writers/directors.
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Sigh...add to the list of great shows shot down before their time....hopefully it can be saved, but getting back into production with the writers strike seems like many shows will suffer.
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Amazing. I just finished watching it, and it was an excellent, yet bittersweet, wrap-up. I really felt like they had a great storyline in place that was cut short, but I'm glad I at least got to see this much. I hope the people involved have better luck on their next outings, and I hope that the people at NBC who decided this show wasn't worth renewing are stricken with a painful, yet not lethal affliction.
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Glad it got a decent ending. Last scene was great. I feared it would leave like Jericho did, which would suck huge. I will definately buy the DVD if it comes out just to support the thing.
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anyone know how many peanuts were sent to CBS before they realized they had to renew Jericho? given that NBC has recieved over 1,300 boxes of Rice-a-Roni (through just the website listed above, there is another out there sending as well i believe) I am hoping (like many others) the get the hint. if you havent donated yet, drop a few dollars and help.
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Originally Posted by superman69
anyone know how many peanuts were sent to CBS before they realized they had to renew Jericho? given that NBC has recieved over 1,300 boxes of Rice-a-Roni (through just the website listed above, there is another out there sending as well i believe) I am hoping (like many others) the get the hint. if you havent donated yet, drop a few dollars and help.