FOX producing Family Guy episodes, without Seth MacFarlane.
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Originally Posted by Seantn
Ok well, you're wrong I've previously heard the Simpson's creators say the same thing (9 months) on their commentaries on the Simpsons DVDs.
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I think it turned out great so watch for it, but I believe it won’t air till fifth season. Just like a baby, these shows take about nine months.
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I think it turned out great so watch for it, but I believe it won’t air till fifth season. Just like a baby, these shows take about nine months.
Still not sure why an animated episode would take so long to produce but, since I know exactly nothing about the biz, I guess I shouldn't have commented.
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^Yes. I believe that is correct. I think they record the voice actors before they even start the animation. So they should have a few episoded recorded. They just need to finish them up.
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Los Angeles (E! Online) - The ongoing writers strike may be sparking a Family feud.
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The overlords at Fox have announced plans to air an original Family Guy episode this Sunday and move forward on three more without the participation of mastermind Seth MacFarlane, who not only serves as show runner but supplies many of the key voices.
The move has angered MacFarlane, who stopped work on the series last week to join the picket lines with other WGA members. Film and TV writers whose union went on strike Nov. 5 to force Hollywood studios to negotiate a bigger cut of the profits from DVD sales and other future digital media platforms.
"It would just be a colossal dick move if they did that," Family Guy's creator told Variety, noting that the next three episodes of the animated comedy are "relatively close to completion, but they have not had a final pass."
MacFarlane acknowledged that both the network and producer 20th Century Fox TV are "legally within their rights" to finish new episodes without his input, but doing so, he said, could not only affect the show's creative direction and thus alienate viewers but also harm the successful partnership MacFarlane and Fox have built up over the years.
"They've never done anything like this before, in which they've said, 'We're going to finish a show without you,' " he said. "It's really going to be unfortunate and damaging to our relationship if they do it."
Fox declined to comment. It was known before the strike that only one episode had been completed before MacFarlane walked out, and Fox had the difficult choice of going into reruns during November sweeps or finishing the incomplete shows. The first of those was sent to the network yesterday to be vetted for this weekend.
Still, MacFarlane—who also said he won't voice Family patriarch Peter Griffin, Brian the dog, and evil baby genius Stewie until the strike is over—implored Fox to scuttle the idea.
Given that he's been in talks with the network for a new long-term contract for the past year, MacFarlane does have a little bit of leverage.
"I'm technically in breach of nothing," he added.
Fox has a tough balancing act producing the show and keeping MacFarlane happy. Aside from solid ratings, Family Guy was one of the first TV series to do blockbuster business on DVD, becoming the top-selling TV DVD of the year for 2003. That success led Fox to revive the series after canceling it. On Nov. 4, Family Guy celebrated its 100th episode.
While MacFarlane addressed a group of picketers in front of the Fox lot, hundreds of film and TV actors showed up on the picket lines outside Universal Studios Tuesday to lend their support to the WGA action.
"There isn't an actor I talk to who hasn't felt what the writers are going through," said CSI star William Petersen, who was there with costars Marg Helgenberger, Wallace Langham and other show folks.
The Screen Actors Guild has quite a bit at stake in how the current work stoppage shakes out. The acting union's contract is due to expire in June (as is the Directors Guild's), and they want the same thing as writers—a larger share from the burgeoning new-media market.
"Everyone knows the Internet is the future," said Two and a Half Men's Jon Cryer. "If we don't get a piece of that, we're doomed."
Added Seinfeld's Jason Alexander: "This is not about some big star's salary. It's about big company profits. It's high time writers shared in a percentage of the profits."
Also on hand to support the scribes were castmembers of Grey's Anatomy, including Katherine Heigl and T.R. Knight, and stars of Desperate Housewives, Big Love, The New Adventures of Old Christine, Cold Case, Without a Trace, Numb3rs, The Big Bang Theory, Dexter and Mad Men. Others, including Sopranos star and writer Michael Imperioli, marched in front of Wall Street.
Meanwhile, the stoppage appears to be taking a toll on NBC. The Peacock became the first network to withdraw from January's Television Critics Association's winter press tour, which showcases midseason series. Others are expected to follow.
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The overlords at Fox have announced plans to air an original Family Guy episode this Sunday and move forward on three more without the participation of mastermind Seth MacFarlane, who not only serves as show runner but supplies many of the key voices.
The move has angered MacFarlane, who stopped work on the series last week to join the picket lines with other WGA members. Film and TV writers whose union went on strike Nov. 5 to force Hollywood studios to negotiate a bigger cut of the profits from DVD sales and other future digital media platforms.
"It would just be a colossal dick move if they did that," Family Guy's creator told Variety, noting that the next three episodes of the animated comedy are "relatively close to completion, but they have not had a final pass."
MacFarlane acknowledged that both the network and producer 20th Century Fox TV are "legally within their rights" to finish new episodes without his input, but doing so, he said, could not only affect the show's creative direction and thus alienate viewers but also harm the successful partnership MacFarlane and Fox have built up over the years.
"They've never done anything like this before, in which they've said, 'We're going to finish a show without you,' " he said. "It's really going to be unfortunate and damaging to our relationship if they do it."
Fox declined to comment. It was known before the strike that only one episode had been completed before MacFarlane walked out, and Fox had the difficult choice of going into reruns during November sweeps or finishing the incomplete shows. The first of those was sent to the network yesterday to be vetted for this weekend.
Still, MacFarlane—who also said he won't voice Family patriarch Peter Griffin, Brian the dog, and evil baby genius Stewie until the strike is over—implored Fox to scuttle the idea.
Given that he's been in talks with the network for a new long-term contract for the past year, MacFarlane does have a little bit of leverage.
"I'm technically in breach of nothing," he added.
Fox has a tough balancing act producing the show and keeping MacFarlane happy. Aside from solid ratings, Family Guy was one of the first TV series to do blockbuster business on DVD, becoming the top-selling TV DVD of the year for 2003. That success led Fox to revive the series after canceling it. On Nov. 4, Family Guy celebrated its 100th episode.
While MacFarlane addressed a group of picketers in front of the Fox lot, hundreds of film and TV actors showed up on the picket lines outside Universal Studios Tuesday to lend their support to the WGA action.
"There isn't an actor I talk to who hasn't felt what the writers are going through," said CSI star William Petersen, who was there with costars Marg Helgenberger, Wallace Langham and other show folks.
The Screen Actors Guild has quite a bit at stake in how the current work stoppage shakes out. The acting union's contract is due to expire in June (as is the Directors Guild's), and they want the same thing as writers—a larger share from the burgeoning new-media market.
"Everyone knows the Internet is the future," said Two and a Half Men's Jon Cryer. "If we don't get a piece of that, we're doomed."
Added Seinfeld's Jason Alexander: "This is not about some big star's salary. It's about big company profits. It's high time writers shared in a percentage of the profits."
Also on hand to support the scribes were castmembers of Grey's Anatomy, including Katherine Heigl and T.R. Knight, and stars of Desperate Housewives, Big Love, The New Adventures of Old Christine, Cold Case, Without a Trace, Numb3rs, The Big Bang Theory, Dexter and Mad Men. Others, including Sopranos star and writer Michael Imperioli, marched in front of Wall Street.
Meanwhile, the stoppage appears to be taking a toll on NBC. The Peacock became the first network to withdraw from January's Television Critics Association's winter press tour, which showcases midseason series. Others are expected to follow.
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Originally Posted by C-Mart
... but if the strike goes too long, then they might have to start getting new voice actors.
I really don't think one person can due justice to all of those unique voices.
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From reading that story, it seems that more and more actors are siding with the writers. Of course, since they (actors) and the directors contract is also expiring in the middle of 2008, they need to have the writers behind them then, if they (the actors & directors) go on strike.
The studios / producers should just be smart and settle with all 3 groups and hopefully everyone is treated fairly and we have a peace that lasts for another 20 years.
Chris
The studios / producers should just be smart and settle with all 3 groups and hopefully everyone is treated fairly and we have a peace that lasts for another 20 years.
Chris
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So, is Mcfarlane not working on the show at all? I thought that he just couldn't do any writing... Is he protected as, say a director or whatever, if he is shirking all of his duties?
There is only one statement in that article that is incorrect. The writers aren't going after profits. The money that they are asking for is residuals, which would occur whether or not the work in question makes a profit. In other words, if a studio sinks $40 million into a movie and it only brings in $10 million initially... the writers would still get their 4 extra cents (or whatever it is) for each DVD and digital download, regardless of whether the studio made a profit.
I'm not siding with either side, just stating the facts. Actually, with so many other people losing their jobs because of this I'm on the verge of siding with the studios.
Regardless, I think that Fox will lose a lot of Fans if they don't do these episodes right. I can only hope that there was enough done on these last 3 that the direction stays in-tact.
There is only one statement in that article that is incorrect. The writers aren't going after profits. The money that they are asking for is residuals, which would occur whether or not the work in question makes a profit. In other words, if a studio sinks $40 million into a movie and it only brings in $10 million initially... the writers would still get their 4 extra cents (or whatever it is) for each DVD and digital download, regardless of whether the studio made a profit.
I'm not siding with either side, just stating the facts. Actually, with so many other people losing their jobs because of this I'm on the verge of siding with the studios.
Regardless, I think that Fox will lose a lot of Fans if they don't do these episodes right. I can only hope that there was enough done on these last 3 that the direction stays in-tact.
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Originally Posted by C-Mart
So, is Mcfarlane not working on the show at all? I thought that he just couldn't do any writing... Is he protected as, say a director or whatever, if he is shirking all of his duties?
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Same here. Especially when I see big name actors 'picketing' outside to get photo ops. Please.
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The Simpsons has a similar 9 month gestation period. They argued that part of the reason the show was so successful was that it didn't come together until the very end, and thus, the network could never review it before it aired.
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Originally Posted by Yavin
Maybe Fox is going to use archived voice recordings of those members of the cast involved in the strike. I mean, they have 100 episodes worth plus whatever deleted scenes that have been recorded. I'm sure it'll be a hodge-podge of voice-acting.
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"Everyone knows the Internet is the future," said Two and a Half Men's Jon Cryer. "If we don't get a piece of that, we're doomed."
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Originally Posted by C-Mart
There is only one statement in that article that is incorrect. The writers aren't going after profits. The money that they are asking for is residuals, which would occur whether or not the work in question makes a profit.
Ron Moore, one of the producers of "Battlestar Galactica," recently said in an interview that the studios are requiring them to write, produce and direct Internet-only content (i.e. "webisodes"), yet they are refusing to pay any of the talent involved, including writers, actors, directors, camera people, etc. The studios are classifying web content as promotional material that does not itself generate income, yet the studios are selling advertising to run with the web content and refusing to disclose how much they're making from such advertising.
I'm sorry, but people deserve to be paid for their work. And the reason other unions are supporting the writers strike is because these issues will be a point of negotiation when their contracts are up for renewal. Actors and directors contracts expire in a few months.
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Originally Posted by achau9598
Well, this should certainly be the death of the show. But when FG returned to the air, I thought they had a guaranteed 3-year deal. So, how do they continue making episodes when the writers are on strike?
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It's more complicated than just residuals.
Ron Moore, one of the producers of "Battlestar Galactica," recently said in an interview that the studios are requiring them to write, produce and direct Internet-only content (i.e. "webisodes"), yet they are refusing to pay any of the talent involved, including writers, actors, directors, camera people, etc. The studios are classifying web content as promotional material that does not itself generate income, yet the studios are selling advertising to run with the web content and refusing to disclose how much they're making from such advertising.
I'm sorry, but people deserve to be paid for their work. And the reason other unions are supporting the writers strike is because these issues will be a point of negotiation when their contracts are up for renewal. Actors and directors contracts expire in a few months.
Ron Moore, one of the producers of "Battlestar Galactica," recently said in an interview that the studios are requiring them to write, produce and direct Internet-only content (i.e. "webisodes"), yet they are refusing to pay any of the talent involved, including writers, actors, directors, camera people, etc. The studios are classifying web content as promotional material that does not itself generate income, yet the studios are selling advertising to run with the web content and refusing to disclose how much they're making from such advertising.
I'm sorry, but people deserve to be paid for their work. And the reason other unions are supporting the writers strike is because these issues will be a point of negotiation when their contracts are up for renewal. Actors and directors contracts expire in a few months.
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Yet one could argue that producing promotional content is part of the job that you are initially paid for. How many actors and actresses get paid for their various talk show appearances?
Watch the BSG or Office 'webisodes'. Those are filmed stories, plain and simple. If they're streaming them with paid advertising, I don't see how anyone can argue that that stuff is any different than the episodes themselves.
*Someone's* getting paid when those go up to the web site. Why don't the writers get a share?
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Yet one could argue that producing promotional content is part of the job that you are initially paid for. How many actors and actresses get paid for their various talk show appearances?
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Yet one could argue that producing promotional content is part of the job that you are initially paid for. How many actors and actresses get paid for their various talk show appearances?
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Originally Posted by Sean O'Hara
Yup, he has like five voices for thirty characters. The guys a regular Rich Little.
I see him more like a genuis along the lines of Mel Blanc
I only started watching this show recently on dvd and I can't believe how freakin' funny it is. I thaught for sure Stewie was voiced by some tight assed English dude. Mcfarlane says he was inspired by watching Rex Harrison in My Fair Lady. I can see the similiarities
He has a very specific dialect for all the voices he does. The man is truly gifted!
PS I always thaught in the opening credits Stewie was singing "F'n cry" instead of "laugh and cry"
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Yet one could argue that producing promotional content is part of the job that you are initially paid for. How many actors and actresses get paid for their various talk show appearances?
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Originally Posted by Yavin
Maybe Fox is going to use archived voice recordings of those members of the cast involved in the strike. I mean, they have 100 episodes worth plus whatever deleted scenes that have been recorded. I'm sure it'll be a hodge-podge of voice-acting.
Plus for the guys who thinks it doesnt take 9 months to make an episode, there is a hell of a lot of stuff that goes into it. It has to be written, reviewed, rewritten, drawn(which takes forever; 20 minutes of show is really thousands of images; put together; Voiced, Synched with voice and picture, looked over by fox, edited, Formatted for TV. All that in only 9 months is impressive.