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Seinfeld is number 8.
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:lol: Obviously missed that. :)
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This list is absurd. It is actually pretty good for about the top 10 or 20 but after that....
Roseanne Barr at number 11? Heather Locklear at on the list at all let alone #25? Henry Winkler should be much higher as should Micheal J Fox and Bob Barker. In the are you serious group: Sarah Jessica Parker Jennifer Aniston James Gandolfini Flip Wilson Jimmy Smits Calista Flockhart Diahann Carroll Ellen DeGeneres (maybe but not over the people they left off) Especially when you consider what was left off: Charlie Brown, Mister Rogers, and Big Bird. Three really enormous icons that a VERY large percentage of the population grew up with for the past 3-4 decades. How can you get much bigger then that? Ron Howard Don Knotts (how is he not in the top 20 at least?) Ted Danson Kelsey Grammer (this is just absurd, Callista Flockhart over Kelsy Grammer?) Barbra Eden Peter Falk Angela Lansbury Tom Selleck Steve Urkel Conan O Brian Hello? how can he be left out but Jon Stewart is in there? Tom Brokaw The crocodile hunter (maybe not but better then some of their other choices) And there are numerous cartoons left out: Jetson Scooby Doo Flinstones This list really kind of shows you how few TV icons have been made in the last decade or so. There is so much TV to choose from that everyone watches something different. It is so hard to have "water cooler" talk about TV shows anymore. More choices are great, you can watch what you want but still, it feels like TV as a unifying cultural past time ended with the last few remaining big sitcoms of the late 90's i.e. Friends, Frasier, Sinfield, etc. |
Ready for more? Here are 100-51:
100. Marcia Cross 99. Delta Burke 98. Meredith Baxter 97. "In Living Color" cast 96. Shannen Doherty 95. Richard Dawson 94. Melissa Gilbert 93. Neil Patrick Harris 92. Judge Judy 91. Dennis Franz 90. John Stamos 89. Robert Guillaume 88. Gavin MacLeod 87. Phil Hartman 86. Jerry Mathers 85. Rod Serling 84. Cartman from "South Park" 83. Isabel Sanford 82. Ted Knight 81. Dick Cavett 80. Adam West 79. Angela Lansbury 78. Art Carney 77. James Garner 76. Candice Bergen 75. Peter Falk 74. Joan Rivers 73. Tony Danza 72. Cher 71. Rosie O'Donnell 70. Bob Denver 69. Barbara Eden 68. Don Cornelius 67. Tom Selleck 66. Kelsey Grammer 65. Pamela Anderson 64. Phil Donahue 63. Ed Asner 62. Redd Foxx 61. Pee Wee Herman 60. Merv Griffin 59. Ted Danson 58. Don Knotts 57. Charlie Brown 56. Betty White 55. Fred Rogers 54. Florence Henderson 53. Ed McMahon 52. Ron Howard 51. Bob Hope At least some of the omissions from the top 50 are in there, but Marcia Cross? John Stamos? (Have mercy.) If anyone from Full House was to make it, it should have been Bob Saget who hosted another popular show. If the cast from "In Living Color" can be on there, why couldn't they have just listed the "Friends" cast instead of one of the ensemble? |
I'd like to know how they defined "icon." If it's just someone who is recognizable from tv, that's one thing. But if it's someone who has, as a result of their work, CHANGED tv or made some sort of difference, that's another thing. Many people criticize Jerry Seinfeld, but like him or not, he made a big impact on television....
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Originally Posted by kramdenfan
I'd like to know how they defined "icon." If it's just someone who is recognizable from tv, that's one thing. <b>But if it's someone who has, as a result of their work, CHANGED tv or made some sort of difference, that's another thing.,</b> Many people criticize Jerry Seinfeld, but like him or not, he made a big impact on television....
See, this is my issue with those who don't understand why <b>Flip Wilson</b> should be on the list. Many may not get it but having shows where a Black person was the lead was still a bit new back then and so one could say that Flip was up there with Redd Foxx and other Black people with shows. |
Bob Hope at # 51?
Now I know this list is full of crap! Chris |
Originally Posted by mrpayroll
Bob Hope at # 51?
Now I know this list is full of crap! Chris I've never been a fan of Bob Hope, but I think he should be higher on the list... |
I don’t understand why Jimmy Smits got a better ranking than Dennis Franz? I mean, that’s just craziness.
I would think anyone would know Sipowicz more than Bobby Simone and whatever character Smits played on The West Wing (didn’t watch TWW). I like Smits, don’t get me wrong, but Franz should’ve made it higher than Smits IMO. |
Originally Posted by nateman241
I don’t understand why Jimmy Smits got a better ranking than Dennis Franz? I mean, that’s just craziness.
I would think anyone would know Sipowicz more than Bobby Simone and whatever character Smits played on The West Wing (didn’t watch TWW). I like Smits, don’t get me wrong, but Franz should’ve made it higher than Smits IMO. |
Originally Posted by kramdenfan
too high or too low?
I've never been a fan of Bob Hope, but I think he should be higher on the list... Chris |
Has anyone mentioned Bugs Bunny?
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Has anyone mentioned Bugs Bunny?
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Good list overall. Heather Locklear was queen of '80s night-time soaps and an all-time favorite, T.J. Hooker, she belongs on the list.
I had to give some thought as to which show Smits was being recognized for and of course, LA Law Why is Jon Stewart on the list and I have no idea which show was lead by Diahann Carroll? EDIT: RE: Diahann Carroll, it must be Julia per IMDB. I remember the name of the show, but I never watched it.... |
Originally Posted by Sparrow
Good list overall. Heather Locklear was queen of '80s night-time soaps and an all-time favorite, T.J. Hooker, she belongs on the list.
I had to give some thought as to which show Smits was being recognized for and of course, LA Law Why is Jon Stewart on the list and I have no idea which show was lead by Diahann Carroll? EDIT: RE: Diahann Carroll, it must be Julia per IMDB. I remember the name of the show, but I never watched it.... It sure looks like another Hollywood liberal biased list to move an agenda! |
Originally Posted by wm lopez
It sure looks like another Hollywood liberal biased list to move an agenda!
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I know Steven Hill was only in the first season of Mission: Impossible but he was one of the founding members of the Actors Studio and I’m sure quite a few people (even people that don’t watch) have seen him on Law & Order, the ten seasons he was in as Adam Schiff.
Speaking of Mission: Impossible (pick up the third season on DVD today), how come Peter Graves didn’t even make it on the list? I can think of a whole bunch of people on that list that didn’t deserve to be on it as much as him. I can see why Landau or Bain didn’t make the list, but no Graves? No love for David Janssen or Barry Morse either? I mean, I could go on and on but so many memorable people have been left off this list, for people who aren’t that memorable. |
Originally Posted by nateman241
I know Steven Hill was only in the first season of Mission: Impossible but he was one of the founding members of the Actors Studio and I’m sure quite a few people (even people that don’t watch) have seen him on Law & Order, the ten seasons he was in as Adam Schiff.
Speaking of Mission: Impossible (pick up the third season on DVD today), how come Peter Graves didn’t even make it on the list? I can think of a whole bunch of people on that list that didn’t deserve to be on it as much as him. I can see why Landau or Bain didn’t make the list, but no Graves? No love for David Janssen or Barry Morse either? I mean, I could go on and on but so many memorable people have been left off this list, for people who aren’t that memorable. |
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