Flash Gordon---Series Premiere 90 minutes 8/10/07 SciFi
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Originally Posted by JM
They were looking for the Imex, not Imax. The "gag" was that it was Flash's father's watch, which was a Timex. For whatever reason, Ming didn't see the T" in the word. Figured that out early on myself. In any case, I agree that this show is bad. I'm a big fan of the Sam Jones movie and came away very, very disappointed by this episode. Hopefully it will get better, but some things that make it bad (e.g. Ming and the acting) aren't likely to change...
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Well, I purposefully did not read any reviews or comments here or on the SciFiForum until after watching the pilot just now. A mistake. If I had read all the perceptive and accurate comments, it might have lowered my expectations enough so that I might have thought it was simply a bad show.
It's not a "bad show". It's a bad idea gone wrong. Misconceived, badly scripted, poorly acted, photographed with all the skill of of an instamatic novice, and a blight on the TV schedule.
It's full of ideas - all from other shows. (I thought of Stargate, Sliders and even the "beaming" from Star Trek was used.)
What really pisses me off is that this will probably kill off the possibility of better talents trying anything with the property for years to come.
It's not a "bad show". It's a bad idea gone wrong. Misconceived, badly scripted, poorly acted, photographed with all the skill of of an instamatic novice, and a blight on the TV schedule.
It's full of ideas - all from other shows. (I thought of Stargate, Sliders and even the "beaming" from Star Trek was used.)
What really pisses me off is that this will probably kill off the possibility of better talents trying anything with the property for years to come.
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Originally Posted by Rockmjd23
Wow the acting was terrible.
this was a bad opening and i won't be sticking around for another minute. this was crap tv at its worstest.
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Dear Sc-Fi,
Don't try to re-imagine a franchise unless you actually have an imagination.
Made me love the 1980 movie even more.
Don't try to re-imagine a franchise unless you actually have an imagination.
Made me love the 1980 movie even more.
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What really pisses me off is that this will probably kill off the possibility of better talents trying anything with the property for years to come.
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This was just bad. Nobody can act. Ming wasn't mean enough. The daughter wasn't sexy enough. The story wasn't interesting. I starting to think sci fi is trying to put out crap. The last good original show they put out was the dune mini series.
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Originally Posted by Panda Phil
Dear Sc-Fi,
Don't try to re-imagine a franchise unless you actually have an imagination.
Made me love the 1980 movie even more.
Don't try to re-imagine a franchise unless you actually have an imagination.
Made me love the 1980 movie even more.
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Originally Posted by JM
They were looking for the Imex, not Imax. The "gag" was that it was Flash's father's watch, which was a Timex. For whatever reason, Ming didn't see the T" in the word.
I saw a few minutes of it this morning, and it looked like a zero-budget, early 1990's straight-to-video movie.
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[blockquote]I saw a few minutes of it this morning, and it looked like a zero-budget, early 1990's straight-to-video movie.[/blockquote]
That is an insult to Dale Midkiff and Dolph Lundgren.
That is an insult to Dale Midkiff and Dolph Lundgren.
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I have really enjoyed Flash Gordon in all of the various incarnations throughout the years. I really can find the good in just about every version...
... but this first episode was a steaming turd. Actually, it wasn't even bad enough to be a turd. At least something painfully bad would have had its own charm. This was just lifeless and pointless.
Ouch. I won't be back for episode 2.
... but this first episode was a steaming turd. Actually, it wasn't even bad enough to be a turd. At least something painfully bad would have had its own charm. This was just lifeless and pointless.
Ouch. I won't be back for episode 2.
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Originally Posted by DaveCole
I am going to try and be an optimist and hope it gets better as the show goes on.
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I meant to watch this and completely forgot. Now I'm glad I did so.
Seriously, though -- how the hell do you screw up Flash Gordon? It was a huge success in the Thirties for a reason -- Alex Raymond just came up with one damned cool concept after another. I love how people lincese a property, then "remagine" it into failure. Why even pay for the rights to Flash if you're just going to change it into something worse?
Seriously, though -- how the hell do you screw up Flash Gordon? It was a huge success in the Thirties for a reason -- Alex Raymond just came up with one damned cool concept after another. I love how people lincese a property, then "remagine" it into failure. Why even pay for the rights to Flash if you're just going to change it into something worse?
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^ On that note: why even call it Flash Gordon to begin with? With Battlestar, the same basic premise is still there and it feels like the original. This feels nothing like Flash Gordon. If they had followed the 80's camp version, at least I could enjoy the cheese!
I'll give it one more episode, but that was one of the worst pilots I've seen in ages.
Maybe it was because it was putting me to sleep, but did Zarkov actually ever introduce himself? I only heard his name once.
No Hawkmen?
I'll give it one more episode, but that was one of the worst pilots I've seen in ages.
Maybe it was because it was putting me to sleep, but did Zarkov actually ever introduce himself? I only heard his name once.
No Hawkmen?
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Wow, I didn't think it was great, but I didn't find it that bad.
I think the low points were the nerdy science guy (bad casting/imaging) and the IMAX being the Timex.
The preview for the upcoming episodes looks good enough. I was thinking SciFi version of Hercules I suppose. Probably more episodic than overarching storyline though. I'll definitely be giving it a chance for a while to see if it improves.
Perhaps the strongest point I felt was the chemistry between a lot of the leading roles. Unfortunately, the scripting was rather on the weak side.
I think the low points were the nerdy science guy (bad casting/imaging) and the IMAX being the Timex.
The preview for the upcoming episodes looks good enough. I was thinking SciFi version of Hercules I suppose. Probably more episodic than overarching storyline though. I'll definitely be giving it a chance for a while to see if it improves.
Perhaps the strongest point I felt was the chemistry between a lot of the leading roles. Unfortunately, the scripting was rather on the weak side.
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The preview for the upcoming episodes looks good enough.
Sorry, but that isn't Flash Gordon.
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Originally Posted by Superman07
Wow, I didn't think it was great, but I didn't find it that bad.
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This thread reminded me it's time to cancel my cable (well...at least scale back to just local channels). I've been meaning to do it for a little while and was going to last week, but then I recalled that Flash Gordon was on and I wanted to see it.
Sorry I waited.
Sorry I waited.
#48
Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
It wasn't. I found it to be a so-so diversion. It certainly has room to improve, but it's far from horrible. I think people were expecting another Battlestar Galactica, and this plays more like a low-rent Smallville.
As someone that likes Smallville, I take great offense to that.
This Flash Gordon played like a horrible sci-fi channel made-for-tv movie.
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I caught about 30-40 minutes of this before the wife called me to bring a bottle for the baby. I've never been so happy to hear that crying kid before
Seriously, they couldn't promise Ron Moore two full seasons to finish out BSG and low-rent hackwork like this gets picked up?
Seriously, they couldn't promise Ron Moore two full seasons to finish out BSG and low-rent hackwork like this gets picked up?
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i caught most of the pilot. Total garbage. Bad script, bad direction, bad production design, bad everything. The pilot for the ABC "Cavemen" was better than this.