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MrBob 08-02-07 12:01 AM

Season 3 started with a series of phenomenal that were jaw dropping at times. Quite honestly in my opinion they set the bar too high, there was noway that the rest of the season was going to live up to that. Season 3 also suffered from the network meddeling with the show demanding more stand alone episodes, for example: if I remember correctly, The Woman King episode's plot was supposed to be a long running backstory. I am on the fence about the season finally, it could end up being really great, or IMO the episode where the show died. It all depends on how they do season 4.

Overall I liked season three, and I think it will play out better on DVD, where you don't have to wait so long between episodes. Even the "bad" episodes are still entertaing and are worth watching, and for the most part contribute to the overall character developement of the show.

Seeker 08-02-07 12:12 AM

This is probably almost a thread crap, but sorry....

We just finished "Heroes", with our jaws on the floor. The entire series made us go "oh my god let's see the next one.

Then it was like "now what" - I said - EVERYONE says Battlestar Gallactica is great and I have it - so let's watch it. We started with the Pilot (Starbuck is a woman?) and about the point where Caprica is being destroyed, we yawned and said - boy this is taking a long time isn't it? Maybe we'll finish tomorrow....

We aren't giving up on it, but the Pilot sure seemed drawn out - maybe they wanted to reintroduce everyone.... but after Heroes I guess we were used to fast and tight writing.

Kevin M. Dean 08-02-07 12:17 AM


Originally Posted by Seeker
Then it was like "now what" - I said - EVERYONE says Battlestar Gallactica is great and I have it - so let's watch it. We started with the Pilot (Starbuck is a woman?) and about the point where Caprica is being destroyed, we yawned and said - boy this is taking a long time isn't it? Maybe we'll finish tomorrow....

We aren't giving up on it, but the Pilot sure seemed drawn out - maybe they wanted to reintroduce everyone.... but after Heroes I guess we were used to fast and tight writing.

First, it wasn't a pilot. It was a mini-series which may help you with the pace.

Episode 1 should then alleviate any issues you have in regard to fast and tight writing.

Mr. Salty 08-02-07 02:29 AM


Originally Posted by Seeker
We just finished "Heroes", with our jaws on the floor. The entire series made us go "oh my god let's see the next one.

The "entire series" is only one season so far, so it's a little too early to tell if "Heroes" has staying power. I love the show, so I hope it remains as good as the first season (although I felt slightly letdown by the season finale, which seemed rushed).

"Galactica" isn't designed to be as fast-paced as "Heroes," although it amazes me how much ground they can cover in just a couple of episodes. I love the much larger scope of "Galactica," and the characters have far greater depth than just about anything else on TV. Some of the things the characters go through during the three seasons are incredible.


Originally Posted by Seeker
(Starbuck is a woman?)

I don't know if you noticed or not, but Boomer is a woman, too, and Asian. And Adama is Hispanic, Col. Tigh is white, Baltar is British, Boxey gets one line and thank the gods disappears, and there's no stupid robot dog that's actually a midget covered in shag carpet. The show has been updated, and usually for the better.

Josh-da-man 08-02-07 02:52 AM

Battlestar Galactica never really gets bad, as in "jump the shark" bad, but it does to lag a bit during the middle sections of seasons two and three when they bring out the self-contained episodes.

And they also pulled some "shippy" stuff out during season three that didn't go over well at all with the viewers.

porieux 08-02-07 04:49 AM

I guess the herky jerky camerawork of the earlier seasons didn't bother a lot of people, but for me it made it kind of unwatchable. There is a time and place for that sort of thing, and it is not every damn scene, lol. They seemed to stop that in the third season though.

dhmac 08-02-07 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by Mr. Salty
there's no stupid robot dog that's actually a midget covered in shag carpet. The show has been updated, and usually for the better.

I agree with your view, so this is just a geeky correction: the robot daggit (dog) Muffit in the original was actually played by a trained chimpanzee.

dhmac 08-02-07 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by porieux
I guess the herky jerky camerawork of the earlier seasons didn't bother a lot of people, but for me it made it kind of unwatchable. There is a time and place for that sort of thing, and it is not every damn scene, lol. They seemed to stop that in the third season though.

That unsteady-cam was my least favorite part of the show!

Mr. Salty 08-02-07 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by dhmac
I agree with your view, so this is just a geeky correction: the robot daggit (dog) Muffit in the original was actually played by a trained chimpanzee.

Thanks for the correction. Maybe it would have been better with a midget. Most things usually are.

milo bloom 08-02-07 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by MrBob
Season 3 started with a series of phenomenal that were jaw dropping at times. Quite honestly in my opinion they set the bar too high, there was noway that the rest of the season was going to live up to that. Season 3 also suffered from the network meddeling with the show demanding more stand alone episodes, for example: if I remember correctly, The Woman King episode's plot was supposed to be a long running backstory.

I believe it's in one of the podcasts that Mr Moore mentions the network wanting standalone episodes so as to "attract new viewers". Of course, it ended up driving off the viewers that were already on the edge of quitting, and just pissing off the diehards.

I still believe there was nothing wrong with the storylines they explored, but since they had to do the Trek-style monster/social issue of the week format, they seemed trivialized.


Moore has since said the network is pretty hands off for this final season, so here's hoping to a nice long, drawn-out story arc that we'll need a pad of graph paper and a sextant to keep track of :)

Fok 10-04-07 03:56 PM

Actually I kinda wish they had a robot dog (Muffit). I just finished watching season 2 on DVD and looking forward to season 3. The story is moving at a quick pace. Would of like to see more of fighting between the cylons and humans, but what can you do

valkyrie 10-04-07 04:39 PM

Anyone else annoyed that S3 is available on DVD in the UK, and isn't even announced yet here? Go figure.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Battlestar-G...454123-0533214

Grrr...hate region coding. Love HD-DVD. ;)

Heartagram 10-04-07 07:24 PM

this thread title offends me.

DJariya 10-04-07 08:03 PM

BSG is still IMO one of the best Sci-Fi Dramas on TV. This is the original posters opinion, but honestly I don't think it warrants creating an entire thread saying the show sucks and creating a thread title that says the show sucks.

Ph8te 10-05-07 12:49 AM


Originally Posted by Heartagram
this thread title offends me.

Yep LOL!!!! Personally there are a few "filler" episodes as there are with MANY great shows, but overall BSG never gets bad.

E. Honda 10-05-07 01:49 AM

The original was best. I tried to watch the, ahem, "reimagining", but the whole mess is some Sci-Fi executive's wet dream come horribly to life. I can imagine them sitting there, thinking "how can I make BSG better? I know, we'll make all the characters women, then we'll make them all lesbians, so we can have tons of scenes of them making out, and that means tons of gratuitious bra and panty shots!!!". I swear, even the men in that show are lesbians. Truly, one of the worst shows ever.

pinata242 10-05-07 07:46 AM

^ I wanna see the show Honda is talking about! It sounds even better than BSG.

Originally Posted by E. Honda
I swear, even the men in that show are lesbians.

Hell, I'm guilty of that in real life.

TGM 10-24-07 07:28 PM

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sven 10-25-07 04:53 AM

It turned to crap like 12 episodes into season 2. Everything was flowing perfectly and then bam! shit just starts to get random and the show completely loses its flow. It was like the producers decided things were moving too quickly so they decided to throw in a bunch of pointless filler episodes. I forced my way through the rest of the season 2 but completely lost interest 7 or 8 episodes into season 3.

Deke Rivers 10-25-07 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by valkyrie
Anyone else annoyed that S3 is available on DVD in the UK, and isn't even announced yet here? Go figure.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Battlestar-G...454123-0533214

Grrr...hate region coding. Love HD-DVD. ;)

not at all..at 60 some US bucks for the set Ill wait for reg 1

rfduncan 10-25-07 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by Mr. Salty
Thanks for the correction. Maybe it would have been better with a midget. Most things usually are.

I believe the term is "vertically challenged". ;)


Originally Posted by valkyrie
Anyone else annoyed that S3 is available on DVD in the UK, and isn't even announced yet here? Go figure.

As someone who is trying to get caught up to watch the final season as it airs, I feel your pain. :wave:

JayDerek 10-25-07 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by sven
It turned to crap like 12 episodes into season 2. Everything was flowing perfectly and then bam! shit just starts to get random and the show completely loses its flow. It was like the producers decided things were moving too quickly so they decided to throw in a bunch of pointless filler episodes. I forced my way through the rest of the season 2 but completely lost interest 7 or 8 episodes into season 3.

Much of the blame needs to fall on the SciFi network for this. They wanted the writers to do stand alone episodes so as to not confuse new viewers, so in essence these grind the storylines to a halt.

I'd compare it a little to Lost, in that BSG now knows when their end point is going to be, so they can plan better and not have to deal w/ stand alone episodes as much.

maingon 10-25-07 12:04 PM

It never gets bad, the first half of last season was fantastastic, then there were som so-so epsiodes but it did pick up again.

I love the show.

dstrauss 10-25-07 05:20 PM

According to the LA Times, the start date of season 4 has now been pushed back to April 2008.

Mr. Salty 10-26-07 02:10 AM


Originally Posted by dstrauss
According to the LA Times, the start date of season 4 has now been pushed back to April 2008.

Linkage. (Beware: There are season 3 spoilers.)

DaveCole 10-26-07 07:23 AM

When its not on.

Chew 10-26-07 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by dstrauss
According to the LA Times, the start date of season 4 has now been pushed back to April 2008.

:grumble:

DVD Josh 10-29-07 10:56 AM

I just finished a marathon viewing of the entire series to date and aside from a small number of standalone eps, thought it was one of the best series of any genre I'd viewed in awhile. But having seen LOST S1 on DVD and then on TV, I can understand the frustration of fans having to wait weeks for a meaningful advancing of the storyline when watching it as broadcast.

sven 10-29-07 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by DVD Josh
But having seen LOST S1 on DVD and then on TV, I can understand the frustration of fans having to wait weeks for a meaningful advancing of the storyline when watching it as broadcast.

I watched them all over a period of about 10 days so having to wait for a broadcast was not the problem.

ivelostr2 12-13-07 12:07 AM

I just finished the 3rd season between Tivoing the episodes on scifi and "obtaining" Ep 17 and 18 elsewhere, and I have to say S3 was much better than i expected from reports. I thought Unfinished Busuness was really great, one of my favorites fromt he series, but I was concerned during the 4 episode stretch from Taking a Break to Dirty hands (I thought some characters were acting very out of character in these episodes), but the last 4 eps were really good, (why scifi would skip Maelstrom and the Son Also Rises during the 2 Saturday marathon is beyond me). The last 10 minutes of Crossroads...wow...I suspected something like that would happen, but never those 5...and the All along the Watchtower was out of place, but I really enjoyed liked it. Overall i was very happy with this season, the bad episodes were still better than most anything else on TV...


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