Heroes -- "How To Stop An Exploding Man" -- 05.21.2007
#126
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they should of takin sylar up with them, that would of been cool.
guess they want him around for season 2.
molly talkin about the dude worse than sylar was great.
i also don't understand why nathan had to fly peter up? maybe he couldn't use anymore powers at that moment? most likely they did it for the drama.
i thought it was pretty good overall. was hopin for a lil more being the finale and all but can't wait for next season.
guess they want him around for season 2.
molly talkin about the dude worse than sylar was great.
i also don't understand why nathan had to fly peter up? maybe he couldn't use anymore powers at that moment? most likely they did it for the drama.
i thought it was pretty good overall. was hopin for a lil more being the finale and all but can't wait for next season.
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Molly's "he sees me" dude scares her more than Sylar, but that doesn't mean he's more powerful than Sylar.
Also, I don't see why Claire couldn't have just pumped a few rounds into Peter's chest. We've already established that collapsing unconscious (in the alley) stops his nuclear power, a fact Peter should have picked up on.
Also, I don't see why Claire couldn't have just pumped a few rounds into Peter's chest. We've already established that collapsing unconscious (in the alley) stops his nuclear power, a fact Peter should have picked up on.
#129
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Originally Posted by Scorpio
I loved how they all came together at the end, though it would have been cool to see more of a group fight.
Hell, Heroes is a MUCH better show, but he action in the finale of Smallville blew this episode away. Freaking Smallville.
All in all the finale was an alright ending to an incredibly exciting season.
I still don't get the deal with Peter not getting shot. Why not just shoot him and then revive him since he had Claire's powers?
#130
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Isaac got the panels out of order. That's why Hiro was able to surprise him. He dismissed that picture as being from their previous encounter.
Yep. slightly anti-climactic, but still great.
At least now they've all MET, fer cripessake...
Yep. slightly anti-climactic, but still great.
At least now they've all MET, fer cripessake...
#131
I personally enjoyed the finale. While it would have been cool to see a dragged out Peter/Sylar fight using multiple powers, that's also been what everyone's been expecting and this show has always been about both defying expectations and treating the characters like real people. And the battle fits with Peter's character. He's not the bad-ass Peter from 5 years gone, he's the Peter who is unsure of himself and his abilities, the one who still feels he needs the help of his brother rather than having the confidence to do what needs to be done himself. And, unlike Sylar, he hasn't been spending months practicing with all the abilities he's absorbed (well, other than the invisibility), so, when in a fight, he resorts to standard fighting methods, using Niki's strength rather than anything more complex like TK or Hiro's time-stopping abilities.
Was there another way out for Nathan and Peter? Yeah, probably, but remember that these guys didn't have the luxury of sitting around speculating about how Peter could avoid exploding. Peter had stopped before when being knocked unconscious, but nobody knew for sure that that method would continue to be effective. And Nathan had been so conditioned to believe the explosion was inevitable that he really hadn't given much thought at all to how to prevent it and, at the last moment, simply did what came naturally to him to save his brother and the city.
So, disappointing on a visual, visceral level? Maybe, but the finale stayed true to the characters, so it remains effective and entertaining to me. Hopefully, this show will continue to avoid the cliches and will have events occur based on the characters themselves rather than fan expectations.
Was there another way out for Nathan and Peter? Yeah, probably, but remember that these guys didn't have the luxury of sitting around speculating about how Peter could avoid exploding. Peter had stopped before when being knocked unconscious, but nobody knew for sure that that method would continue to be effective. And Nathan had been so conditioned to believe the explosion was inevitable that he really hadn't given much thought at all to how to prevent it and, at the last moment, simply did what came naturally to him to save his brother and the city.
So, disappointing on a visual, visceral level? Maybe, but the finale stayed true to the characters, so it remains effective and entertaining to me. Hopefully, this show will continue to avoid the cliches and will have events occur based on the characters themselves rather than fan expectations.
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It was cool to see Sylar get away, although expected. Maybe he was dragged away? That was blood smeared on the ground right? I can't imagine him only being able to crawl away and sitll being able ot lift the manhole cover.
#135
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I liked it. But I was hoping for more of a Neo/Smith type showdown between Sylar and Peter. Anyhow, the brother sacrafice was pretty lame IMO. But I did love how the group came together at the end. I'll definitley be back for next season.
#136
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Both Peter and Sylar are relatively new at using their powers. To think they would make the jump to some knock-down, drag-out "super-fight" it is a bit ridiculous. Remember the great encounter that was hinted at in the future episode was several years later (I think), once they had truly harnessed their potential. This just sets the stage in my opinion for bigger fights in future volumes.
#137
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Was slightly dissapointed with the lack of huge Peter/Sylar but overall was pleased.
To those that are complaining about Claire not shooting Peter. I'm guessing that shots to the body would not have done much as the regeneration is pretty quick. A shot to the head, at that close range, likely would have killed Peter. I'm pretty sure that the bullet simply wouldn't lodge in his brain to be easily removed later.
To those that are complaining about Claire not shooting Peter. I'm guessing that shots to the body would not have done much as the regeneration is pretty quick. A shot to the head, at that close range, likely would have killed Peter. I'm pretty sure that the bullet simply wouldn't lodge in his brain to be easily removed later.
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#138
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Originally Posted by Big Dave
Both Peter and Sylar are relatively new at using their powers. To think they would make the jump to some knock-down, drag-out "super-fight" it is a bit ridiculous. Remember the great encounter that was hinted at in the future episode was several years later (I think), once they had truly harnessed their potential. This just sets the stage in my opinion for bigger fights in future volumes.
The guy Molly seen could possibly be the one to take him under his wing and show him how to really use his powers.
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even if the shapeshifter girl or whatever we are calling her passed out or died or whatever she changed back into annother shape. Losing the cloaking ability. Notice that she didnt look any different than she had in the past. In other words, I thought she was supposed to be fat?
#141
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Future Hiro spends all that time mapping this thing out, and his conclusion is "Save the Cheerleader save the world?" How about "kill the nuclear guy save the world?"
#142
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Originally Posted by Achtung
I was trying to tie it somehow to Noah of Ark fame but... I got nothing.
#143
Originally Posted by Gasspasser
even if the shapeshifter girl or whatever we are calling her passed out or died or whatever she changed back into annother shape. Losing the cloaking ability. Notice that she didnt look any different than she had in the past. In other words, I thought she was supposed to be fat?
Yeah - I wanted her to transform into this fat slob - I guess they are saving that for a future episode
#144
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I haven't read the whole thread (too long), so I'm sure this has been asked and answered: why didn't Peter just fly himself away? Seems like a HUGE plothole to me.
At any rate, I'm sure Nathan isn't dead. At the beginning of next season, we'll see that he flew away in time.
What happened to Claude? He was part of Peter's original "vision" so I expected him to turn up, but he never did.
Finally, did the ending remind anybody else of the ending of Evil Dead 2?
At any rate, I'm sure Nathan isn't dead. At the beginning of next season, we'll see that he flew away in time.
What happened to Claude? He was part of Peter's original "vision" so I expected him to turn up, but he never did.
Finally, did the ending remind anybody else of the ending of Evil Dead 2?
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Methinks that the following happened (and I haven't read much of the thread so pardon repeats):
1. Nathan grabbed Peter and took off up into the sky, got him high enough that he wouldn't do harm and then dropped him and took off in the other direction (avoiding the blast).
2. Peter won't need to regenerate. Despite everything that Ted did, he never looked burned or hurt, so I think that Peter will be unscathed (except for the fall... unless Nathan came back and caught him on the way down).
3. Sylar can change more than metal into sludge. I think that he can change himself too... and he 'creeped' down the manhole in the TMNTville.
4. If there are any casualties, it would be Parkman, but they won't kill him off. Ted, Linderman and Thompson were enough.
1. Nathan grabbed Peter and took off up into the sky, got him high enough that he wouldn't do harm and then dropped him and took off in the other direction (avoiding the blast).
2. Peter won't need to regenerate. Despite everything that Ted did, he never looked burned or hurt, so I think that Peter will be unscathed (except for the fall... unless Nathan came back and caught him on the way down).
3. Sylar can change more than metal into sludge. I think that he can change himself too... and he 'creeped' down the manhole in the TMNTville.
4. If there are any casualties, it would be Parkman, but they won't kill him off. Ted, Linderman and Thompson were enough.
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Originally Posted by Groucho
I haven't read the whole thread (too long), so I'm sure this has been asked and answered: why didn't Peter just fly himself away? Seems like a HUGE plothole to me.
#147
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Finally, did the ending remind anybody else of the ending of Evil Dead 2?
#148
Originally Posted by Lunatikk
I think he couldnt use any of his powers when he was exploding.
#149
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Originally Posted by kaze0
It was cool to see Sylar get away, although expected. Maybe he was dragged away? That was blood smeared on the ground right? I can't imagine him only being able to crawl away and sitll being able ot lift the manhole cover.
Sorry, but this show stinks of Lost style writing and I won't tolerate it for a second season.
#150
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Originally Posted by Snowmaker
And reducing the Sylar / Peter fight to nothing more than a bar room brawl was just weak.
Originally Posted by Snowmaker
Worst TV finale of the season.