I'm with Shane as well.

Vic is a hypocrite.

So what if Shane killed a friend of theirs. Murdering a cop is still murdering a cop no matter who you are trying to protect.

Vic shot Terry Crowley in cold blood.

For the first time, I have no sympathy for Vic after the way he treated Shane. I hope Shane flips and puts Vic in jail with Antoine.

True, but at least Terry was a road that Vic and Shane agreed to go down together. I find both Vic and Shane to be hypocrits here.

Vic can't understand the monster he created in Shane, and the best line of the night was him stating to Shane , "what have you turned me into".

Shane made a choice to save his own ass by killing Lem. He's just trying to rationalize it to everyone else that it was for them as well, ala telling Mara he did it for his family and telling Vic/Ronnie that he did it for the Strike Team. Look at how fast he jumped on Vic asking if he would tell Dutch. Shane would turn on anyone to save his own ass.

Thats the beauty of the relationship between these two. Shane wants to be like Vic, but he is a dumbshit. Vic can get himself out of just about any jam it seems, but his pity for Shane has always been his weakness.

Everything about this episode was terrific.

And the scenes between Dutch and Billings are always so funny to watch.

Great episode.

I am beginning to think we'll be Shaneless for the final season.

Don't think Julien is going to be able to remain on the strike team unless he has a real big attitude adjustment about what is procedure and what is "right" I believe Hyatt is really beginning to like and trust Vic.

Counting the days until the new episode.

I enjoyed the ep. but I was underwhelmed by the Shane/Vic "confrontation." Chiklis does the controlled rage thing brilliantly, but Shane's reactions to Vic's accusations were a little too understated to be believeable for that situation, IMO. I mean, that was THE big revelation in the show's run and Shane is just sort of "get over it, man" about it.

:shrug:

I can't remember the first episode clearly but didn't Shane "agree" to go down that road AFTER Vic had already shot Terry?

Just saw Episode 10 (the finale) and

He had problems dealing with it later but he stood right by Vic when he did it and covered it up. Being as smart as Vic is I doubt he would kill a cop right in front of one unless Shane already was in on it. They kept Lem and Ronnie out of the loop though.

Also remember Shane said "we killed a cop" not "you killed a cop" to Vic. He was in on it.

I may be a little confused or something, but isn't Hyatt really an undercover Fed? He made a pretty big slip up when talking to Dutch... Seems that way to me, but no one has mentioned it.

Does Acaveda know? Or does he just assume? Cavenaugh definitely assumes.

This show is real to me. It's more real to me than the NBA playoffs.

My theory as to how The Shield will end..

Vic will get killed, in such a random, quick, pointless way by some 14 year old gang-banger wannabee during some gang initiation... you won't see it coming... Vic in his car... thinking his life is finally in order, and at peace, and then BAM!... fade to the 14 year old... shaking, sweaty, nervous, dropping his smoking gun, and running off into the night. The irony would be so thick.. such a vicious, street smart cop, who took on countless powerful criminals, killed by some rookie "next generation" thug, not old enough to even drive.