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Twenty Four (24) -- "Day 6: 1:00 AM-2:00 AM" -- 04/30/07

Old 05-01-07, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by uteotw
I will say I really liked the VP confronting Lisa, esp. when he threatened to have her deemed an enemy combatant "and it will be YEARS before you speak to anyone."
Which will probably prove to be his undoing. That was going way too far, which is in character for him... and will likely result in her telling someone (probably Karen) that he has a signed resignation in his coat pocket.
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Just watched it. Heller sure got there fast.
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LA Times- 24

CHANNEL ISLAND SCOTT COLLINS
Is '24' running out of time?
April 30, 2007


JACK BAUER, America's favorite counter-terrorism agent with the violent code of honor and the weird sadomasochistic bent, is squaring off against a stealthy and unforgiving new enemy.

His fans.

After peaking in the ratings last year, Fox's thriller "24" has been getting dumped on by seemingly everyone in this, its sixth season. Critics and fans alike are aiming tomatoes at the stage, carping about the soapy and repetitive plotlines that unspool Jack's unlikely familial past, tiresome romantic triangles in the security bureaucracy and endless bickering among Oval Office advisors.

Last week, with a fresh episode designed to lay the groundwork for what the creators promise will be a typically suspenseful finale next month, "24's" ratings in the key young-adult category swooned to their lowest level in more than three years, with a total audience of just 10.4 million, according to figures from Nielsen Media Research.

More than one-third of viewers have bailed since the special four-hour season premiere that aired over two consecutive nights back in January. And if that wasn't enough bad news for the series, last week "24" was one of the prime-time shows that the Federal Communications Commission singled out in urging Congress to curb TV violence.

The vox populi protests have not escaped the attention of the show's producers, who promise that some big changes are on the way for Jack (Kiefer Sutherland) and other regulars next season. There's also speculation that something else might be at work in accounting for viewers' tune-out this season, but more about that in a minute.

"It hurts to hear the criticism," said executive producer and writer Howard Gordon, who spoke with me last week by phone as the cast and crew crashed to finish shooting the season's final episode, set to air May 21.

"I don't dispute it's been a challenging season to write for us. But it's reinvigorated our determination to reinvent the show. This year could be seen to be the last iteration of it in its current state."

Oh, dear. Reinvention? That does sound ominous. But Gordon says not to worry, as Jack "won't be flipping burgers."



"It won't be a musical or a half-hour," he added. "I've got a couple ideas, none of which I could even begin to share responsibly."

So "24" — the TV institution, to say nothing of the show's ongoing narrative — has at last arrived at a crossroads, and what an odd trip it's been.

Premiering less than two months after the terrorist attacks of 9/11, "24" initially amounted to barely a blip on the pop-culture radar. The premise — each episode unfolding in real time over the course of a single day as Jack races to foil some dastardly conspiracy — sounded gimmicky. And given recent American history, Jack's missions against Middle Eastern bad guys could easily have struck too close to home. (As it is, the show has prompted plenty of complaints for propagating noxious ethnic and religious stereotypes; witness this season's major plot involving a diabolical terrorist overlord named Abu Fayed.)

But Fox stuck by the show, and, thanks in large part to the about-to-explode television DVD market, it steadily grew a fan base that finally made it blossom into true hit-level status sometime during the critically acclaimed and Emmy-winning fifth season.

I always loved "24's" willingness to work without a net, to go to crazy extremes in expanding the thriller format and somehow live to tell the tale — to outLudlum Robert Ludlum, as it were.

But two personal anecdotes brought the show's mass appeal home for me: My 70-something mother-in-law, a rock-ribbed Republican with narrow TV tastes outside of "The O'Reilly Factor," confessed that she never missed "24." And last year, while walking in downtown Burbank, I happened to observe a middle-age man take his female companion's hand and inquire, in a tone of voice at once soothing and conspiratorial, "What do you say we go home, build a fire and watch '24'?"

But the clock is ticking, for fans as well as for Jack Bauer. Longtime devotees are struggling to keep the faith during this trying season.

"The writers have recycled some plots this season that are glaringly obvious: a recording, an almost removed president, an assassination attempt on that president, an attack on a Middle Eastern country, an impending nuclear strike, a person close to Jack kidnapped, etc.," Victor Lana, a novelist who follows "24" for BlogCritics Magazine, wrote in an e-mail. But "the bottom line is that we still care about Jack Bauer."

Meanwhile, with apologies to my mother-in-law, "24's" audience is getting noticeably grayer, typically a sign that a show is losing its purchase on the windy crags of pop culture. According to Brad Adgate, senior vice president at the New York ad firm Horizon Media, the median age is 47.4 so far this season, compared with 45.1 last year and 42 in the 2003-04 season.

Those born with resistance to "24's" charms have noted that in the second and third seasons the show benefited from following "American Idol." Now, though, its scheduling is cutting the other way: In recent weeks the show's Monday lead-in was "Drive," a new cross-country caper that bombed and got yanked last week. (The network hastily replaced it with reruns of "House.")

"We had every hope that 'Drive' would be a good companion to '24' and successor to 'Prison Break.' We were wrong," Fox Entertainment President Peter Liguori told me, adding quickly that he nevertheless believed "24" would bounce back stronger next year.

But Gordon said he and his writing staff were wondering if something else was afoot besides the normal cycles of storytelling and network scheduling.

Could it be that the vague but gnawing post-9/11 fears that helped turn "24" into a hit are ebbing — the nightmares that envisioned great cities laid low by chemical weapons spilled into the water supply, say, or suitcase nukes wielded by shadowy assailants?

"It's something we talked about at the beginning of the season," Gordon said. "9/11 is becoming, quietly, a memory; the memory is starting to fade…. I do think that people are looking at the world differently, with less fear."

If so, that's probably good for America. And alas, that's probably bad for "24." Real-life political tension does wonders for creators of thriller fare. Look how kind the Cold War was to Ludlum and Tom Clancy.

Even so, Gordon sounds optimistic that "24" can recover from its annus horribilis and deliver the goods next season, no matter what changes are ultimately in store for the ever-suffering Jack Bauer.

"Certain tropes of the show will remain the same," Gordon said. "It'll keep its contract with the audience. We'll keep the adrenaline going."
Old 05-02-07, 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MovieExchange
OK, I keep forgetting to ask - is "Biscuit" a reference to MacNicol's character on Numbers?
Remember he is a "Dragonslayer" too.
Old 05-02-07, 11:00 AM
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OK, I keep forgetting to ask - is "Biscuit" a reference to MacNicol's character on Numbers?
No its from Ally McBeal
Old 05-02-07, 11:15 AM
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"It hurts to hear the criticism," said executive producer and writer Howard Gordon, who spoke with me last week by phone as the cast and crew crashed to finish shooting the season's final episode, set to air May 21.

"I don't dispute it's been a challenging season to write for us. But it's reinvigorated our determination to reinvent the show. This year could be seen to be the last iteration of it in its current state."
"... it's current state"??? Translation - "It's not our writing or second-rate actors replacing beloved characters that we senselessly killed! The problem is that the show needs to be reinvented!!!"

No, it's the writers. You don't need to change the style of the show. You need to write more believable stories.


Could it be that the vague but gnawing post-9/11 fears that helped turn "24" into a hit are ebbing — the nightmares that envisioned great cities laid low by chemical weapons spilled into the water supply, say, or suitcase nukes wielded by shadowy assailants?

"It's something we talked about at the beginning of the season," Gordon said. "9/11 is becoming, quietly, a memory; the memory is starting to fade…. I do think that people are looking at the world differently, with less fear."
Translation - "It's not the writing, it's that people aren't scared of terrorists anymore!!!!"

Bullshit. People didn't stop watching Lost because they used to be afraid of being stranded on an island after a plane crashed, but aren't afraid any longer. They stopped watching because the writing went to shit.

The Sopranos did not become a huge success because people really believed that somewhere a mob boss was having psychological counselling and getting help from a shrink. It became a success because of great writing.

There's hundreds of other TV shows with stories that exist outside of reality, and that's why we like them - they're an escape from our everyday lives.

This interview doesn't really fill me with confidence that they're going to improve the show.

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Gordon needs a reality check. He reminds me of last year when theatrical box numbers were down and the studios were all scrambling to figure out why (gas prices are too high, DVD is taking away our business, etc.). They threw every theory out there except the obvious one: they weren't making good movies.

Mr. Gordon, "24"s ratings are down because the writing sucks this year. Of course, I'm guessing his statements have more to do with placating FOX than they do his sincere assessment. I'm guessing FOX would have the right to replace him as show-runner if they so choosed.
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That was terrible. That one episode with Jack kicking terrorist ass a few weeks ago got my hopes up for nothing.

Put this season out of its misery already.
I know exactly how you feel... I'm disappointed once again. I'd hate to say it but i'm just watching to finish it now. I didn't even bother catching this on T.V. this week.
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There's a whole article in next weeks TV guide about what to expect in the remaining episodes of the season. I guess Jack gets closure with his family.
Ahhh. I am getting all choked up just thinking about it.
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can't wait to see what they throw in for the finale.

hopefully a final shot of jack standing in front of a mcdonalds, staring at a bed, or bout to enter a bathroom.
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Oh man, I've been re-watching the old DVDs, I'm on season 3. It used to be so good! The
Spoiler:
virus in the hotel scenario
still has me riveted.
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Spiderman 3 spoiler: Now we know where Jack's dad disappeared to...

Spoiler:
He went to become police chief of NY!
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Originally Posted by CKMorpheus
Oh man, I've been re-watching the old DVDs, I'm on season 3. It used to be so good! The
Spoiler:
virus in the hotel scenario
still has me riveted.
Michelle/Reiko's finest hour(s). A shame they didn't go any further in regards to her out in the field. I think she did a better job than almost any other schmoe that goes out with Jack.
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I think it's bull when Gordon or Surnow claim they have to kill off these characters because they run out of storyline for them.

Honestly, I would have much rather seen Reiko in Nadia's position this season. Plus, why was it necessary to kill off Roger Cross? He would have been much better than Doyle this season. Doyle was a weak excuse for a Jack Wanna-Be
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Michelle/Reiko's finest hour(s). A shame they didn't go any further in regards to her out in the field. I think she did a better job than almost any other schmoe that goes out with Jack.
Yeah, but if she was still around you know they would've had Jack shoot her or something...

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