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Doc MacGyver 04-25-07 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by Mordred
I noticed that too.

On a related note, were all the comic like paintings in Lindermans place done by Isaac? Some of them seemed to be a different, more cartoony style, but with the hiatus I can't remember exactly what his style looked like.

All of his artwork is done by Tim Sale (Batman: Dark Victory, and Batman: The Long Halloween). Since both of those books were written by Jeph Loep, his long time collaborator, who is now either an EP or a Creative Consultant who has written an episode or two, I'm sure it's just a matter of one friend doing another a favor.


Originally Posted by IDrinkMolson
Something seems amiss with Peter's healing power. Future Hiro told Peter in the subway that he looks different without the scar. How can he have a scar if he has regenerating powers?
And after Sylar cut Peter's hair, wouldn't it come back. Clair's seemed to after getting burned by Ted.

I'm hoping they explain that scar bit in the next episode, because you're right, technically with Claire's power, any wound should instantly reheal. As for the hair, they've ALWAYS been dicey with that in the comic book world. Wolverine has been burned and it's taken his hair longer to regrow than than for the wounds to heal. He's also been burned and the hair has not only regrown instantly, but regrown wildly and much much longer than pre-burn. Superman's hair makes even less sense. Shouldn't he have hair down to his ass and a moses beard by now? How does he shave? Writers have tried to show this by having him use his heat vision in the mirror but that wouldn't work, since they're beams of heat, not lasers. It would just melt the mirror (Superman II also made this mistake). Does he hold kryptonite up to his face while shaving? If so, as soon as he takes it away, why doesn't it grow back like his skin does when wounded by the kryptonite (once the kryptonite has been removed)? Why do we care? Have my friends and I discussed this subject for 5 minutes before we realized how lucky we are that there are women that have and will continue to sleep with us? I don't have answers to any of these except for the last, which is you bet your ass we have.

Is hair even technically alive? It doesn't heal, it just grows more. So technically, I suppose cut/burned hair shouldn't regenerate, it should just grow back at a regular pace (I would hope so, anyway, otherwise Claire would suddenly become much less hot). So if that's the case, why did her head hair grow back so fast? Because she's a hot chick and no one wants to see her bald. It's a show based off of the comic genre. As realistic as I like them to strive to be, some things just have to be taken with a grain of salt.


Doc

shadowhawk2020 04-25-07 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by SteelWill
I think future Hiro came from a timeline where Peter hadn't met Claire. Now that the timeline has been changed Peter doesn't get the scar.

In Future Hiro's world the cheerleader dies which meand Peter never met her. Right?

SteelWill 04-25-07 07:23 PM

I think that this was one of the things future Hiro went back to change (save the cheerleader, save the world). Originally, Peter never met Claire, so whatever gave him the scar wound didn't heal since he didn't have access to her power. So now that he does, no scar.

tasha99 04-25-07 08:02 PM

Was Sylar using the voice? I thought mini Bilson shot herself so he wouldn't get that power . . . Did I misunderstand? :hscratch:

dpz301 04-25-07 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by IDrinkMolson
Also, after watching the 3 episode marathon over the weekend, I don't think we've learned anything about the key Simone had when Isaac shot her.

i saw her on a e! news clip and she mentioned that "we hadn't seen the last of her on the show." should be interesting how that turns out.

Dash 04-26-07 03:30 AM

the one big thing that boggles me is that you should never be able to see your future self. its a time paradox. how can you be in two places at once. Unless this show uses new rules of time travel, that cant be the future Hiro.

FantasticVSDoom 04-26-07 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by Dashed
the one big thing that boggles me is that you should never be able to see your future self. its a time paradox. how can you be in two places at once. Unless this show uses new rules of time travel, that cant be the future Hiro.

Im not sure if I agree with the whole time paradox, but I agree that Im not sold on the fact that future Hiro is actually Hiro. Like I said before, Im thinking it may either be shape shifting girl, or Silar who has stolen both Hiro's and shape shifting girls powers.

CPA-ESQ. 04-26-07 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by Dashed
the one big thing that boggles me is that you should never be able to see your future self. its a time paradox. how can you be in two places at once. Unless this show uses new rules of time travel, that cant be the future Hiro.

According to the Graphic Novel it is Hiro in the future.

I think you could have multiple "selves" at one point in time - it would "twist" the lines of time into something funky but I think it could be done.

Groucho 04-26-07 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by Dashed
the one big thing that boggles me is that you should never be able to see your future self. its a time paradox. how can you be in two places at once. Unless this show uses new rules of time travel, that cant be the future Hiro.

Lots of time travel novels, movies, and shows have people meeting their future selves. There's nothing "new" about it.

rfduncan 04-26-07 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by tasha99
Was Sylar using the voice? I thought mini Bilson shot herself so he wouldn't get that power . . . Did I misunderstand? :hscratch:

I believe Sylar did acquire that power - and then he told her to kill herself.


Originally Posted by FantasticVSDoom
Im not sure if I agree with the whole time paradox, but I agree that Im not sold on the fact that future Hiro is actually Hiro. Like I said before, Im thinking it may either be shape shifting girl, or Silar who has stolen both Hiro's and shape shifting girls powers.

Well, hasn't Hiro himself said something similar to Ando about being careful not to run into themselves? Odd thing is if future talks to present, he will immediately vanish if present understands and changes the course of the present sufficiently to generate a "desireable" outcome. Ouch. String theory hurts my head. :brickwl2:

Draven 04-26-07 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by rfduncan
I believe Sylar did acquire that power - and then he told her to kill herself.

We went round and round on that when the episode aired - from my viewing, I thought she killed herself to rob him of the power. He couldn't "take" it from her without extracting her brain (his power is not like Peter's), but maybe he did it after the fact even though she killed herself.

I dunno - it's all very confusing.

kiddk1 04-26-07 09:25 AM

Sylar cannot absorb power like peter, remember peter is like a sponge, Sylar has to cut open the head and do whatever he does.

Groucho 04-26-07 09:26 AM

We don't know what Sylar does, but obviously Eden shooting herself in the head wasn't enough to prevent it.

pinata242 04-26-07 09:31 AM

We don't even know if his voice change is the same thing as Eden's power. I don't recall ever seeing Sylar actually manipulate someone to do something against their will.

candyrocket786 04-26-07 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by pinata242
We don't even know if his voice change is the same thing as Eden's power. I don't recall ever seeing Sylar actually manipulate someone to do something against their will.


I think it's merely a side-effect resulting from acquring/using his various powers.

The voice could almost be a "vocal blend" of his victims.

Michael Corvin 04-26-07 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by kiddk1
Sylar cannot absorb power like peter, remember peter is like a sponge, Sylar has to cut open the head and do whatever he does.

He does the highlander thing. They don't show it but I would assume it is like the quickening.

Original Desmond 04-26-07 11:23 AM

As much as i love this show, i hope they don't get too bogged down in the time travel and alternate realities stuff.

And i hate to admit it, we have Sylar as the ultimate baddie but it would be good to every now and then have a 'villian of the week'. Just a small time super powered villian that some of the heros could showcase their powers on. Shouldn't be overdone like Smallville etc but once in a while. I just think we need to see just a titch more demonstration of powers.

kiddk1 04-26-07 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by Groucho
We don't know what Sylar does, but obviously Eden shooting herself in the head wasn't enough to prevent it.

I think if he had Eden's power or persuasion he would not have had to try to fool mohinder, he would have persuaded him to give up the list.

Brent_MN 04-26-07 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by kiddk1
I think if he had Eden's power or persuasion he would not have had to try to fool mohinder, he would have persuaded him to give up the list.

finally!!

mini-Bilson :drool:

cookie5409 04-26-07 02:36 PM

On the previews for next weeks show
Spoiler:
(5 years in the future) they show a tv screen with Sylars picture & the words "American Remembers". What does this mean? Is America to remember him because he caused the destruction? We see that Peter is alive in this future so he didn't do it. Could Sylar have killed the nuclear man & the shapeshifting girl & he is the one that explodes. That would explain the scene they showed that one time with Peter & all the other heroes in New York & they start running away from him(Peter) & he blows up. Maybe Sylar shapeshifted into Peter to lure all the heroes so he can explode & kill all of them.



Sorry about that. Didn't realize that was considered a spoiler.

Michael Corvin 04-26-07 02:37 PM

spoilers -ohbfrank-

Morf 04-26-07 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by Dashed
the one big thing that boggles me is that you should never be able to see your future self. its a time paradox. how can you be in two places at once. Unless this show uses new rules of time travel, that cant be the future Hiro.

Read "All You Zombies—" by Robert Heinlein. Not only does the main character meet him/herself, he/she ends up being his/her own mom/dad.

wildcatlh 04-26-07 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by cookie5409
On the previews for next weeks show
Spoiler:
(5 years in the future) they show a tv screen with Sylars picture & the words "American Remembers". What does this mean? Is America to remember him because he caused the destruction? We see that Peter is alive in this future so he didn't do it. Could Sylar have killed the nuclear man & the shapeshifting girl & he is the one that explodes. That would explain the scene they showed that one time with Peter & all the other heroes in New York & they start running away from him(Peter) & he blows up. Maybe Sylar shapeshifted into Peter to lure all the heroes so he can explode & kill all of them.



Sorry about that. Didn't realize that was considered a spoiler.

Spoiler:
In this week's comic book, it says that he killed Ted (nuclear man) and got his power... and also killed Claire and got her healing power. Hiro tried to stab Sylar before he exploded but he was able to heal and recover since he had Claire's power. The comic specifically states that Sylar is the exploding man.

Alvis 04-26-07 08:39 PM

Seems I can't access episodes 2-14 on the NBC website. Anyone know if they have taken them down? My wife and I were catching up on ones we had missed.

Michael Ballack 04-28-07 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by Morf
Read "All You Zombies—" by Robert Heinlein. Not only does the main character meet him/herself, he/she ends up being his/her own mom/dad.


Time travel incest. Sounds fun. :)


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