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SlingshotBandit 12-07-06 11:53 PM

Yul voted for Adam to leave. He's clearly not a "ringleader", as he couldn't (or didn't, I should say) rally for his two closest allies -- or at least Becky, who he's joined at the hip with -- to vote with his interest in mind.

Maybe he voted for Adam, instead of Jonathon, because he knew his vote wouldn't save Jonathon anyway, but had Jonathon saw that there was at least two votes, he'd know that one of them was most likely from Jonathon. Thus, he'd be able to get Jonathon's vote if Yul were to make it to the final 2 (or 3).

The only problem is that Jonathon was voted out before Jeff Probst could read the last vote (the one that Yul wrote). So Jonathon doesn't even know this.

I always look for these things. :lol:

Oh well.

I'd like Yul or Ozzy to win.

madcougar 12-08-06 12:08 AM


Originally Posted by Patman
Obviously no one from the Cook Island edition watched the 5th season of Survivor when Brian dragged Clay kicking and screaming into the finals with him for the slam dunk win. Jonathan is the perfect foil to take into the final 2 with anyone else left playing the game. But nooooo, no one can mentally handle an outspoken/irritating guy and just want to "chill" for the rest of the 8 days with "cool" people. At this point, it would be so ironic if either Adam or Parvati ended up in the final 2 and wins because of the majority of their former tribemates on the jury.

You my friend should play Survivor. I had the exact same thoughts tonight. In my mind, Brian is the greatest Survivor ever because he controlled the game throughout, but didn't let his ego get in his way. In other words, he controlled the game in complete stealth mode.

This also reminded me of when the guys didn't vote Jenna off when they had the chance and decided to vote off the stupid blond. WTF?! Why would you keep the one female who might win?

chowderhead 12-08-06 12:18 AM

horrible vote. You don't vote off someone marginally in your group who cannot win immunities after talking about how Adam and Parvati were winning all the challenges. WTF! If Adam or Parvati reel off a string of wins, the juror is mostly from the raro tribe so you don't want to run the risk of either of them coming close to the end. Idiots. Yul's vote for Adam was his play for Jonathon's vote in a final 2 situation.
I hope it backfires. I guess I will root for Ozzy since he is fairly dominate in the swimming challenges.

davidh777 12-08-06 03:22 AM

Unbelievably bad vote

hahn 12-08-06 03:34 AM


Originally Posted by chowderhead
Yul's vote for Adam was his play for Jonathon's vote in a final 2 situation.

Either that or he was unable to convince the others that it was a good idea but just couldn't stab Jonathan in the back. Probably knew it wouldn't matter anyhow.

boredsilly 12-08-06 04:00 AM

It's insane how good Ozzy was in the Immunity challenge. It's like he trained for this specific challenge. I was very impressed.

Jonathan was good to watch, now that he's gone, I think the remaining group is going to be more concerned about being fair and nice to make for the fun. Unless Ozzy, Becky, or Sundra (especially Sundra) finally start to make some moves.

movieking 12-08-06 07:50 AM

I think that Yul wanted Jonathon to go, but didn't want to go back on his word, so he had his cronies carry it out for him, without him needing to vote against J. I am still rooting for Yul to win.

auto 12-08-06 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by ChrisHicks
did anyone else in the Detroit area have audio dropouts tonight? I just finished watching this via dtivo and I had dropouts every few minutes for a second or 2. I just started watching CSI and its happening there too. I checked some older recordings and they are fine however.

Yep. Me too. Very annoying.

Dr. Henry Jones, Jr. 12-08-06 08:16 AM

well that was dumb. Horse Teeth better win now

creekdipper 12-08-06 08:26 AM

How long does Yul have to use the HII? My wife pointed out that the other participants could kill 2 birds with one vote by splitting their votes between Yul & another person. Giving Yul the majority of the votes would force him to use the HII (thus taking away his "power" in the game & evening up the playing field) and still get rid of the person with the 2nd highest total votes. Is there a flaw in this thinking? Seems to me that the longer Yul keeps the idol, the stronger he becomes since he is invulnerable at this point. It also makes the other players more vulnerable since evidently the others don't want to "waste" a vote on Yul.

P.S. Although Ozzy's prowess in the challenges is admirable, I kind of hope Yul wins because he is the least likely to waste the money. Ozzy #2. Becky &
Sundra #3 (tie).

Adam & Parvoti would go through the money in one long, dazed weekend. Or Adam would give the money to Candace, who would then elope with Billy.

Phod 12-08-06 10:55 AM

I'm not sure why everyone considers this a bad vote.

Jonathan wasn't part of their alliance. Yes, he flipped to help them but he would be cut loose at final 5. Sure Yul would consider Jonathan a prime final two candidate but since everyone hates him, they may hate Yul for keeping Jonathan in the game. Plus, what if it backfires and Jonathan goes before final two now everyone thinks Yul sucks for keeping Jonathan around.

Voting Jonathan out leaves their numbers up at 4-2. No real danger unless Adam wins two immunities in a row and he hasn't exactly been doing great in challenges. Plus, what's the difference if they leave Jonathan in to final 5 and he wins immunity? It's not like he's incapable or THAT much better than Adam.

Yul is thought of as the ringleader by the former Raro. By ditching Jonathan, Yul gains favor from Adam and Pavarti on the jury as well as former Raro members.

There's no way this was a dumb move.

cdollaz 12-08-06 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by Phod
I'm not sure why everyone considers this a bad vote.

REad thru the thread for plenty of reasons. They voted off someone they had under their thumb and would be a prime candidate for the final 2. The left in someone who could win challenges and influence other people. The whole "Yul staying on Adumb's good side" stuff is bullshit.

Spoiler:
Last night's previews give a good look at some of the possibilities that could occur by keeping Adumb around. If Yul gets blindsided by Ozzy, it's his own stupid fault.

mwbmis 12-08-06 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by creekdipper
How long does Yul have to use the HII? My wife pointed out that the other participants could kill 2 birds with one vote by splitting their votes between Yul & another person. Giving Yul the majority of the votes would force him to use the HII (thus taking away his "power" in the game & evening up the playing field) and still get rid of the person with the 2nd highest total votes. Is there a flaw in this thinking? Seems to me that the longer Yul keeps the idol, the stronger he becomes since he is invulnerable at this point. It also makes the other players more vulnerable since evidently the others don't want to "waste" a vote on Yul.

P.S. Although Ozzy's prowess in the challenges is admirable, I kind of hope Yul wins because he is the least likely to waste the money. Ozzy #2. Becky &
Sundra #3 (tie).

Adam & Parvoti would go through the money in one long, dazed weekend. Or Adam would give the money to Candace, who would then elope with Billy.

The only flaw is there is very, very little chance that Becky would go against Yul at this point. They're close, and he's basically her "meal ticket". With her and Yul voting in a bloc together there is no way to have the most votes on Yul and still control who goes home. Theoretically, they could vote out Becky next, but with Yul still possessing the HII there is no way to get him out at 5 so someone would have to be sacrificied next (presumably Sundra or Ozzy because Yul would be angry with them). Considering that at this point Ozzy and Sundra have a relatively pain free path to the final four it makes little sense to make a move yet.

Dr. Henry Jones, Jr. 12-08-06 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by movieking
I think that Yul wanted Jonathon to go, but didn't want to go back on his word, so he had his cronies carry it out for him, without him needing to vote against J. I am still rooting for Yul to win.

Wait a second, Yul voted for Adam? I didn't watch the very end when they show all of the votes, but the survivor page on CBS says:

Jonathan Voted Out
After realizing that the energy had shifted around camp, Jonathan Penner, the 44 year-old writer from Los Angeles, California, was eliminated in a 6 to 1 vote. The annoyed tribe was sick of listening to Jonathan talk incessantly, so they uniformly voted him out of game.

cdollaz 12-08-06 11:10 AM

Jonathon running his mouth is just another reason to keep him around as it keeps everyone pissed at him and deflects attention from the others. It also keeps them unified against him when it comes time to break him off.

I was really hoping Jonathon would lay into Adumb at TC last nite but he doesn't seem to be able to formulate arguments or defend himself very well.

Red Dog 12-08-06 11:14 AM

I'm just wondering if a 3-2-1 vote can be engineered next week to get Yul's idol out of the game.

That vote was puzzling since I figured that each of the tight-2 would want to take Jonathan with them to a final-3. I would guess that Jonathan was counting on that as well.

mwbmis 12-08-06 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by Red Dog
I'm just wondering if a 3-2-1 vote can be engineered next week to get Yul's idol out of the game.

That vote was puzzling since I figured that each of the tight-2 would want to take Jonathan with them to a final-3. I would guess that Jonathan was counting on that as well.

It could be, but why would Becky do it? At this point it appears if Yul would win a immunity challenge he would probably give her the immunity necklace. If she is in the final four with Yul still possessing the HII then she has essentially two shots at winning the immunity challenge with very little chance of being outright voted out.

Dr. Henry Jones, Jr. 12-08-06 12:19 PM

One reason not to bring Jonathan to the final 3 challenge is because it splits the alliance between the other 2. No matter what happens, the winner would bring Jonathan to the final 2, meaning you must win the challenge to have a shot at the million


Edit: I should really read what others post before I start writing something. I guess this was already said

Winky 12-08-06 12:22 PM

I think Jonathan gave some spoiler away if you noticed very carefully what he said in today's interview on CBS's "The Early Morning Show"
Spoiler:

He said something to the effect that Yul promised everyone to take them to the final 2. But let's see if he will make it to the final 2.

This to me indicates Yul does not make it to the Final 2.

DeputyDave 12-08-06 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by Lunatikk
Wait a second, Yul voted for Adam? I didn't watch the very end when they show all of the votes, but the survivor page on CBS says:

Jonathan Voted Out
After realizing that the energy had shifted around camp, Jonathan Penner, the 44 year-old writer from Los Angeles, California, was eliminated in a 6 to 1 vote. The annoyed tribe was sick of listening to Jonathan talk incessantly, so they uniformly voted him out of game.

Yeah, i could have sworn everybody voted out Jonathan. Yul wrote very small, and it was only uo for a second, but I thought I saw Jonathan's name.

I would think if there were two votes for Adam, Jeff would have played it out more (like he usually does) making it look like only Adam and Pav voted for Jonathan.

Damfino 12-08-06 12:35 PM

I didn't catch who Yul's vote, but from Ozzy, Becky & Sundra's POV, this was a smart move because now one of them makes the the final 2 with Yul, who may not win the jury vote.

Also, any immunity challenge that involves swimming is an automatic win for Ozzy, so Adumb & Poverty still have nothing to build on.

magiccmom 12-08-06 12:38 PM

After watching next weeks previews and the chinks in the alliances, I hope Adam wins, just to prove to everyone what a dumb move that was to vote Jonathan out. Obviously, everything is unpredicatble in this game, but you dont let people outside your alliance tell you what to do.

Could Becky and Sundra have been more obvious????

And you vote out Jonathan so things can be more cool around camp? Seriously, I hope your little :grouphug: was worth a million dollars. Idiots!

Mok 12-08-06 01:56 PM

I have a feeling Sundra is going to make her move soon. She may join up with Adumb & Horse Teeth. Becky no doubt is stuck to Yul's side like glue, and I think Ozzy has a lot of respect for Yul. So it could be 3 vs 3 with the immunity idol still in play. BTW what is up with Horse Teeth she is boxer with a face like that I don't think so.

Damfino 12-08-06 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Mok
BTW what is up with Horse Teeth she is boxer with a face like that I don't think so.

Maybe she just puts things in boxes?

zuffy 12-08-06 02:25 PM

Spoiler:
base on the preview, it looks like ozzy will join adumb and bitchy horseteeth. if that is the case, goodbye yul and stupid move becky.


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