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rfduncan 11-27-06 08:35 AM

Studio 60 "B-12" 11/27/06
 
Spoiler:
A virus takes its toll on the cast, and Matt faces the challenge of coming up with material with a reduced writing staff. Also, Jordan drops a bombshell on Danny.


Looks like the issue much discussed in last week's thread is about come busting out all over. :lol:

Groucho 11-27-06 08:52 AM

I understand that on tonight's episode we learn Harriet is a Christian, and that despite this Matt is still in love with her.

RobCA 11-27-06 09:26 AM

I've been DVR-ing this show (and The Class) since it first started, but just finally got around to watching all the episodes this past weekend. Now I'm totally hooked! Can't wait to finally watch an episode the same week it airs.

Rob

Red Dog 11-27-06 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by Groucho
I understand that on tonight's episode we learn Harriet is a Christian, and that despite this Matt is still in love with her.


Use spoilers, dude. You ruined it!!!!

dpz301 11-27-06 09:07 PM

i don't usually watch much of this show, but the beginning with the deal/no deal spoof was pretty funny. :lol:

sven 11-27-06 09:48 PM

Mark McKinney WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

I hope they have Bruce or Kevin on here next!

Patman 11-27-06 10:05 PM

I thought tonight's episode was a bit fluffy, but sort of funny (Harriet's inability to tell a joke, I know people like her in this respect). Jordan's bombshell was predictable, but the "who" is the mystery for now.

Danny and the Lahti character riff well. I wonder how many times they filmed the spit-take scene. The serious guy was killing me with his sarcasm.

JasonF 11-27-06 10:11 PM

I'm amazed that not only did they have a plot about a comedienne being unable to tell a joke, they didn't have anyone remark that this woman who makes her living telling jokes couldn't tell a joke.

B.A. 11-27-06 10:12 PM

McKinney was excellent.

MrX 11-27-06 11:10 PM

Amanda Peet is probably happy she doesn't have to carry things in front of her belly anymore.

The Harriet subplot with her inability to tell a joke was good, and the monologue was actually good.

Jimmy James 11-27-06 11:14 PM

I agree with most of what has been said above. I also have to say that I love the continued Harriet partial undress stuff. We need more of that. :)

Are Dave and Mark the Kids that don't get along so well? I'd love to see Dave show up...

kenny79 11-28-06 01:31 AM

Sorkin seems to be either referencing or recycling Sports Night; e.g., a blonde woman who's bad at telling jokes (Dana), air horn followed by a spit take (Natalie and Dan), etc. I enjoy it either way.

Count Dooku 11-28-06 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by Groucho
I understand that on tonight's episode we learn Harriet is a Christian, and that despite this Matt is still in love with her.

Ha! Neither was referenced in this episode.
You think you have Sorkin's number.
But just when you think he's gonna Zig, he Zags.

marty888 11-28-06 08:02 AM

I thought the episode was a bit uneven, but there's still enough solid material to keep me watching.

Tracer Bullet 11-28-06 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by B.A.
McKinney was excellent.

:thumbsup:

I hope we see more of him.

Red Dog 11-28-06 10:07 AM

I was under the impressoin that these guys hated reality TV. Seems unrealistic that they would have Howie Mandel as a host.

Once again, the only good stuff was the network/Jordan stuff.

Jimmy James 11-28-06 10:55 AM

DOND is a game show, not a reality show. Some may lump them together, but some don't. It's clear which side of the line Howie's show is on.

I don't think you can be a TV guy and hate game shows. They're just as much a good part of television history as anything else is. You just have to cite shows like What's My Line? and Match Game.

The reality seems to me that NBC made a demand for some cross-promotion and this is what worked best for them. The material really was very good if you ask me.

Red Dog 11-28-06 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by Jimmy James
DOND is a game show, not a reality show. Some may lump them together, but some don't. It's clear which side of the line Howie's show is on.


Yeah, I don't usually do that but I was lazy in my characterization.

Regardless, DOND is a stupid game show - certainly not in the tradition of great ones like Match Game. I have a hard time believing that the show-runners of S60 would have the host of such a show host their program.

The cross-promotion by NBC was obvious, which is ironic considering these guys (and Sorkin I assume) would be extremely hostile to something like that. Frankly, I thought the opening skit, sorry sketch, was pretty lame.

Jimmy James 11-28-06 11:33 AM

DOND certainly is a stupid game show. It's also hard to imagine that they're just big Howie fans. At the same time, it could be that Wes had at least some of the hosts already scheduled and they just went along with it because they didn't want to get a reputation for the show as one that will cancel on you.

JasonF 11-28-06 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by Red Dog
Regardless, DOND is a stupid game show - certainly not in the tradition of great ones like Match Game.

The best part of Match Game was Charles Nelson Riley's blank.

Timber 11-28-06 01:07 PM

Ascot?

MadMark 11-28-06 05:07 PM

The DOND sketch was, unfortunately, exactly like something the current SNL writers would come up with. I mean, it's a game show that has had tear jerking family reunions and f'n Celine Dion on it. The parody sketch practically writes itself, and the best Matt (Sorkin) can come up with is Danny spending a really long time on the phone with the banker? Also, Mandel's line "Oh, you're doing a parody of my show" was really bad (I hope that was an ad lib by Mandel and not something Sorkin actually scripted).

Does Harriet have some kind of degenerative brain disease? Because her character seems to be getting stupider every week. She's been with Second City and the Groundlings, but now she can't remember even the simplest knock-knock joke?

So, according to Jordan, because people watch shows about lawyers and doctors, people will watch a show about the UN? :hscratch:

I liked the McKinney/New Writers storyline. I wish they would have spent more time on it.

Red Dog 11-28-06 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by MadMark

So, according to Jordan, because people watch shows about lawyers and doctors, people will watch a show about the UN? :hscratch:


Yeah - I usually like Jordan, but that was a pretty stupid line.

kenny79 11-28-06 08:17 PM

Anyone notice the Fight Club-esque soap on the TVs in the writers' room?

cornflakeguy 11-29-06 12:19 AM


Originally Posted by kenny79
Anyone notice the Fight Club-esque soap on the TVs in the writers' room?


I noticed it. I think I've seen it before, though...in the writers room.

I like seeing the Studio 60 logo throughout the years. Few weeks ago they had a curly turquoise 70's type on one of the doors.

Count Dooku 11-29-06 01:46 AM


Originally Posted by MadMark
So, according to Jordan, because people watch shows about lawyers and doctors, people will watch a show about the UN? :hscratch:

People were criticizing her decision to air a show about the UN, in part, because Americans (supposedly) have an unfavorable opinion of the UN.

Her point was that Americans (claim in polls that they) dislike doctors and lawyers, but still watch TV shows about doctors and lawyers.
So what people (claim to) dislike in reality does not dictate what they'll watch on TV.

Sorkin would be familiar with this argument because it was said that people hated Washington and politicians, and thus they would never watch a TV show set in the White House.

Big Boy Laroux 11-29-06 11:14 AM

yep, she said that doctors and lawyers were the most "reviled" professions by Americans, but they still love doctor and lawyer shows.

this show is really hitting a stride. the last two episodes have been really good. mckinney was awesome.

as for the harriett/joke thing. it's obvious she can handle comedy, news/comedy, probably observational humor and other stand-up stuff. she just can't tell a straight-forward old-fashioned joke.

MadMark 11-29-06 04:34 PM


Her point was that Americans (claim in polls that they) dislike doctors and lawyers
Well, she's half right.
Actually, since the Time magazine interview was intended to be a train wreck, it's probably a good idea not to pick apart what she said. I just hope when the upfronts come around, that a network president does a better job of selling a new show than "You like doctors and lawyers? You'll love UN deputy ambassadors!"


as for the harriett/joke thing. it's obvious she can handle comedy, news/comedy, probably observational humor and other stand-up stuff. she just can't tell a straight-forward old-fashioned joke.
In "The Focus Group" she told that stupid bear joke twice from memory. Now she stumbles over the "Orange you glad I didn't say banana" knock-knock joke?

Big Boy Laroux 11-29-06 06:32 PM

but that was a joke specifically written for the news segemnt, and told in a news-style delivery. probably a joke she wrote, too, as opposed to trying to re-tell a joke she heard.

i agree it's a stretch to make her unable to tell a classic-style joke, but there really is a difference between the two.

clemente 11-29-06 07:49 PM

I honestly don't have a problem with the change in Harriet's character, IMO, she's the one who's character needed the most adjustment, to give her something to do beside being the token Christian.

SoSpacey 11-30-06 10:25 AM

I liked this show even in the beginning and I REALLY like it now. Definately starting to hit its stride.

Seems like so many people like to nit-pick at so many things in these weekly S60 threads.

Big Boy Laroux 11-30-06 11:00 AM

welcome to internet discussion boards, SoSpacey. :)

Bandoman 11-30-06 11:28 AM

I loved McKinney after the dress rehearsal Darius and Blondie are despondent about their failure and Darius wants to leave, but McKinney says "wait, you need to get the metaphor" (paraphrased) and then the door smacks Darius as the crowd rushes out. :lol:

Big Boy Laroux 11-30-06 11:38 AM

yeah, so many great mckinney lines/scenes. really strong performance.

bboisvert 11-30-06 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by SoSpacey
Seems like so many people like to nit-pick at so many things in these weekly S60 threads.

Seriously. This week seems to have taken it to a whole new level, with the comments about the UN show and the inability to tell a "duck walks into a bar" joke -- both of which make complete sense within the context of the show.

i enjoyed this episode.

Palaver 11-30-06 01:38 PM

I feel like this show is really hitting its stride now. I thought the opening monolouge was actually humorous. Loved seeing Mark McKinney. I did think the "can't tell a joke" things was a bit of stretch for the supposedly most talented member of a comedy skit show, but I can let that slide.

Jimmy James 11-30-06 01:41 PM

The only thing about the joke bit I wonder about is who Sorkin knows in real life who has played a funny character somewhere but couldn't tell a joke to save his or her life.

SoSpacey 11-30-06 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux
welcome to internet discussion boards, SoSpacey. :)


Lol. I know.

It just seems like everyone i in search of whats wrong with show every week instead of focusing on how much better its gotten every week.

I wanted to watch more when the episode ended.


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