critterdvd

Thefutoncritic.com just announced that the CW will actually be ordering atleast 13 episodes of '7th Heaven' to air next season.

I know that the 7.2 million viewers was impressive, but don't they realize that is because it was the last episode of a show that everybody has watched at one point or another. I mean it was a good show, but nobody can deny that its been rather lackluster these last couple years. I my opinion, I think I should have stayed ended... maybe a miniseries, but returning the show after a 'series finale'... i dunno

clemente

It's not entirely out left field, there's always been the vibe that it could return. The CW must be getting desperate though if their already plugging holes in their schedule.

Sir_Fireboard

It's ironic that the renewal of this show is the best indicator that there is no god.

DRG

I didn't see the finale, as I've never actually watched a full episode of this... but seeing as that was supposed to be the finale, how are they going to continue on? And then, how will they do another finale?

Gizmo

If they cancel VM for this show...I'll be pissed.

Patman

Or Everwood!

bigjim25

I'm sorry but I'm a fan! If it's just 13 eps then that will save on reruns of other shows.

bigjim25

Plus "Heaven" remains the WB's top overall draw this season with an average of 5.66 million viewers.

ChrisHicks

I think Charmed will be the next show renewed from cancellation.

all I have to say on this matter is that as long as they renew Supernatural I could care less what they do with the rest of this network.

critterdvd

I doubt that one considering 'Charmed' is one of the lowest rated shows on the network...

What I'm just thinking about also is accessibility. '7th Heaven' has been on the air for a decade, and it is not the easiest show to get into right now, because you need the foundation with the characters to get most of what is going on. But with "Veronica Mars" she's starting college, and the show is going to be completely different. Probably a 2 minute recap will get everyone up to date...

resinrats

Well now we get to here more of the Simon/Sandy story.

Ayre

13 episodes means that it could alternate half seasons with Everwood.

It could be a midseason replacement.

Sir_Fireboard

I doubt it because none of the actresses want to do a 9th season. Also the ratings completely blow.

Words cannot describe what I'll be, especially after that awesome season finale.

antennaball

Ditto for OTH.

dvd182

Put me in the "if they cancel VMars for this, I'm going to to flip out" crowd.

Red Dog

Yep. That's my biggest guilty pleasure show and the most important WB show to me.

ChrisHicks

I guess I should have used that sarcastic smilie in regards to Charmed.

Slayer2005

I will be so mad if this gets in the way of renewing Veronica Mars. I just do not understand how a show like 7th Heaven can last 11 seasons while a great show like Veronica Mars is on the bubble. It just boggles the mind.

I just started watching VM a couple weeks ago on DVD and am now on season 2. I'm not ready for another great show to ends far too soon.

resinrats

Simple. Hardly anyone watches VM. Even if the viewers of VM think its the cat's ass, obviously most of tv views don't think its good enough to watch. The Firefly excuse can't be said about VM. Its been on for years and probably been kept in one schedule/slot that people won't give up since they can't find it. It just never got an audience besides a small one. 7th Heaven has built a audience that is large enought to have been the WB's top show for years and large enough for the CW to want the audience. If VM had the audience that 7H has, it would be a sure bet to be back as well.

Jadzia

I must confess I have never even seen an episode of 7th Heaven.

Slayer2005

Gee, thanks for your insight. I had no idea that it comes down to Neilson ratings. When I said I don't understand "how" a show like 7th Heaven can last 11 seasons while a far greater show is on the bubble I wasn't referring to ratings. I was merely wondering how it's possible for more people to watch such a show than Veronica Mars. I shouldn't be surprised though, the *average* TV watcher couldn't recognize a great show if their life depended on it. The extending story/character arcs on VM may be too hard to follow (especially by not watching in order) and/or the dialogue may be a bit too witty for the *average* tv viewer to appreciate or even "get". 7th Heaven is designed to pull in the family of Christians, regardless of its actual quality.

Most TV viewers have no idea what Veronica Mars is anyway, so those who don't know it exists or haven't seen it don't know if it's worth watching. Also, for the record, it's one of those shows that should be watched from the very first episode, IMO. I'm sure that doesn't help the show's ratings. Pretty much everyone knows what 7th Heaven is. I just got my cousin and best friend hooked on Veronica Mars too. They both knew what 7th Heaven was before they even heard of Veronica Mars (which was only recently when I showed it to them on DVD). Guess which one of the two that they actually like though.

I hadn't even seen one episode of VM before a couple weeks ago. I've never even seen an advertisement for it on TV either. I only knew about it after reading about it online. Mainly after reading Joss Whedon & Stephen King gush (followed by many more similar opinions) about it.

It's a shame we live in a world where great series like Firefly and Freaks & Geeks get cancelled before a season is up and a great show like VM is on the bubble after two seasons, but something like 7th Heaven can survive year after year, regardless of its quality in comparison. Oh well. I don't care if it comes back for a 20th season. All I hope is that it's renewal doesn't get in the way of renewing much better series out there.

grundle

I hope they explain how it's possible that Simon's baby doesn't have a twin.

Rypro 525

well, rob thomas has stated his plans for next season, so why would he make plans for next season if it was not coming back?

Jimmy James

I think it's the Everwood/OTH fans who need to be worried, not the VM fans. I thought perhaps both of those shows would come back due to the very weak pilots, but now we're looking at 1 of them coming back if you ask me. I'd hate to lose Everwood.

Gizmo

What scares me about CW bringing 7th Heaven over is the $. After more and more season of the show, its costs more and more $. Something in its 11th season...how much are these actors getting paid? VMs budget is a frickin shoe string.