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zuffy 05-04-06 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by dhmac
Just go here before next Wednesday:

http://dynamic.abc.go.com/streaming/landing

and watch the episode for free to see what you missed.

AWESOME! Thank you.

Mike1055 05-04-06 06:35 PM

I still don't see how they can bring Walt back onto the show. The kid who played him must have changed a lot in the last two years, even for this show that would be to much. I think Michael was captured and let go with a deal from the Others. I don't think the Others are going to hold up there end of the deal they are just using Michael.
Mike

aktick 05-04-06 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by Mike1055
I still don't see how they can bring Walt back onto the show. The kid who played him must have changed a lot in the last two years, even for this show that would be to much. I think Michael was captured and let go with a deal from the Others. I don't think the Others are going to hold up there end of the deal they are just using Michael.
Mike

I know, Walt has to look a ton older. It would've been cool if they knew just what was going to happen with him a year ago, and they could've filmed a few scenes with him long ago...but I'm sure that type of thing wouldn't work.

Patman 05-04-06 07:04 PM

"Walt" was on "My Name is Earl" last month, and he's probably about 3"-4" taller, and definitely looks older than his last appearance on Lost.

J-Dubya 05-04-06 07:05 PM

Fantastic episode. I had been starting to like M-Rod's character after we got to know more about her. And damn she turns me on besides. Oh well, at least Sun is still there. :drool:

Breakfast with Girls 05-04-06 07:12 PM

I don't understand the "brainwashed" comments. Michael was clearly anguished by what he did. He knows it's not right. If he were brainwashed, that wouldn't be the case. Michael isn't a convert, he's being blackmailed.

He did this for one very obvious reason. "I'm going to get my boy back." I doubt he found the Others. They found him. They told him Walt is safe, but that unless he kills Ana Lucia and frees Henry, he will never see his son again. So Michael is going along with their plan... for now. I think he is also looking for an opportunity to doublecross them. And that's why he's hoping no one ever finds out what he did--because if they do, all of it will be for nothing.

Of course, Libby will be unconscious for awhile until it's dramatically convenient, and then she'll awaken and reveal what happened (and she might live or die at that point), and Michael will be screwed.

Edit: Do you ever go back and read something you wrote and go, "What the hell?" My excuse: 4 hours of sleep and a hangover.

riley_dude 05-04-06 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by Mike1055
I still don't see how they can bring Walt back onto the show. The kid who played him must have changed a lot in the last two years, even for this show that would be to much. I think Michael was captured and let go with a deal from the Others. I don't think the Others are going to hold up there end of the deal they are just using Michael.
Mike

I think that's why they reduced the actor's role in the first place. I read that somewhere. Why they didnt think of that before the cast him, I dont know.

henryfish 05-04-06 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by riley_dude
I think that's why they reduced the actor's role in the first place. I read that somewhere. Why they didnt think of that before the cast him, I dont know.

Probably because they half expected to get cancelled pretty soon.

Michael Corvin 05-05-06 07:17 AM

^In one of the podcasts they said they have a plan for explaining Walt's jump in height/puberty/etc. What that means :shrug:


Originally Posted by outer-edge
dhmac, I think the getting Locke remark was a lie. Henry has played everyone with every word, and this was just one more chance to play Locke. What his true mission was, I don't know. But, if he is the leader (and maybe he isn't), it would explain his incredible ability to lie and manipulate.

I think it was a lie as well. How many adults have they taken? A couple from the tallies and none from the Swan group. Except for Claire and she was returned.


Originally Posted by cracksky
As for Jack's Dad being the Dharma leader, well, there is the Life Extension Project...but he was already dead and in a coffin. How powerful is this island? Can it bring back the dead? If so, then not only would Jack come back but so would Shannon, A-L, Ethan and the Others, etc...

Nope. C.Cuse & D.Lindelof vehemently deny this. It is a running gag on the podcasts. Once you are dead in Lost you are dead. No zombies.


Originally Posted by Giles
I was surprised that Anna Lucia got killed (or as it is implied from the teaser for the next show). I thought Michelle Rodriguez was still in Hawaii, that was for DUI prison visit and not 'Lost' filmings right, or do I have my timeframe of all this off?

Well there are only a few episodes left. They take on average 10-14 days to make 1 episode so they probably wrapped the season about a month ago.


Originally Posted by suziq999
I think Michael looked like death warmed over when he shot Libby because she's an Other, too. He was sad when he shot AL, but he was horrified that he had shot Libby. I think she will keep his secret and say that Henry did it. Henry came for Locke, Libby came for Hurley. JMO

Interesting take, but they haven't shown any of the "others" in the flashbacks unless Desmond is an "other" for sure.

Killer episode, great cliff hanger and yes, the Sawyer not missing his gun bothered me as well.

kenny79 05-05-06 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
How many adults have they taken? A couple from the tallies and none from the Swan group. Except for Claire and she was returned.

She escaped, and Ethan tried to get her back. The Others weren't done with her.

FatTony 05-05-06 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by Mike1055
I still don't see how they can bring Walt back onto the show. The kid who played him must have changed a lot in the last two years, even for this show that would be to much. I think Michael was captured and let go with a deal from the Others. I don't think the Others are going to hold up there end of the deal they are just using Michael.
Mike

Well, one of the Dharma projects is Life Extension, so maybe we won't see Walt for another season or two, but he'll have aged a lot in a few weeks/months of the show's time. Maybe part of the Life Extension project involves artificially aging someone, or whatever they do to try and give someone longer life causes them to temporarily age faster (i.e. a growth spurt, if it happens to be a child). I dunno, just a thought.

Anyway, solid episode. Anyone else think that Hurley's going to end up killing Michael? Or at least contemplate killing Michael, only to have Sayid talk him out of it (since they now share the connection of losing a loved one on the island)?

DRG 05-05-06 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by Legolas
This is all an experiment by Ethan Hunt and IMF.

Hmmm....

Besides the obvious Abrams connection, MI3's hero is Ethan Hunt. Lost had a character named Ethan Rom.

Ethan Hunt is played by Tom Cruise. Ethan Rom was played by William Mapother, who is Tom Cruise's cousin.

dsa_shea 05-05-06 12:18 PM

Does anyone have the link to the Canadian promos? I cant find it for the life of me. Thanks!

El Gray 05-05-06 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Well there are only a few episodes left. They take on average 10-14 days to make 1 episode so they probably wrapped the season about a month ago.

From a couple of articles I've read, it sounds like they have been shooting the finale over the past week or so. I would guess that they're about done. I know they claim that anything that happened was planned out in advance, but it sure is a little bit funny, in a J. Walter Weatherman, "and THAT'S WHY you don't drink and drive during the season!" kind of way that the two drunkies were the ones that took bullets.

Is the finale going to be two hours long?

cracksky 05-05-06 01:00 PM

I'm sure Libby will survive at least a little while. That's the reason she had those blankets conveniently placed in front of her so the bullets could slow down a bit and not cause so much damage. There's more backstory of her to come for sure.

dsa_shea 05-05-06 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by El Gray
From a couple of articles I've read, it sounds like they have been shooting the finale over the past week or so. I would guess that they're about done. I know they claim that anything that happened was planned out in advance, but it sure is a little bit funny, in a J. Walter Weatherman, "and THAT'S WHY you don't drink and drive during the season!" kind of way that the two drunkies were the ones that took bullets.

Is the finale going to be two hours long?

Yep, two hours of supposed greatness.

Now, does anyone have that Canadian promo link?

HistoryProf 05-05-06 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by goofee girl
I'm wondering if Jack will recognize Michael's gunshot wound as a self-inflicted one? Though he's a neurosurgeon, he may have some knowledge of this sort of thing? Just throwing guesses out there.

i was thinking the same thing...seems like there'd be flash burns or whatever since the gun was only inches away.

perhaps too much CSI ;)

HistoryProf 05-05-06 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by El Gray
From a couple of articles I've read, it sounds like they have been shooting the finale over the past week or so. I would guess that they're about done. I know they claim that anything that happened was planned out in advance, but it sure is a little bit funny, in a J. Walter Weatherman, "and THAT'S WHY you don't drink and drive during the season!" kind of way that the two drunkies were the ones that took bullets.

Is the finale going to be two hours long?

maybe they went out and got drunk the day they got the script to drown their sorrows ;)

kenny79 05-05-06 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by cracksky
I'm sure Libby will survive at least a little while. That's the reason she had those blankets conveniently placed in front of her so the bullets could slow down a bit and not cause so much damage. There's more backstory of her to come for sure.

Agreed.

CPA-ESQ. 05-05-06 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by cracksky
I'm sure Libby will survive at least a little while. That's the reason she had those blankets conveniently placed in front of her so the bullets could slow down a bit and not cause so much damage. There's more backstory of her to come for sure.

Don't be surprised if she was carrying a serving tray behind those blankets for her picnic

Josh-da-man 05-05-06 05:58 PM

If the Others have targeted Ana Lucia for execution for killing two of their own -- as evidenced by Fenry trying to kill her Michael apparently succeeding -- where does that leave Eko and Charlie, who have also killed Others?

I have a feeling that Michael did cut some kind of deal with the Others over Walt. I also wonder if Michael and Fenry don't already know each other. Maybe he, Michael, and Mr. Friendly were hanging out together before Fenry got captured by Danielle.

Yeah, Michael did seem pretty horrified at dumping bullets into Libby -- either it was because she was just an innocent bystander, or Michael knew that she was an Other.

Kate knew that the Others abandoned the hatch they held Claire in, but she had also figured out that the Others were using the ragged clothes and fake beards to disguise their actual nature when they left the confines of their hatch.

Given that, what Michael was saying could be on the level. He never claimed to have had any contact with them, only observed them. He could've just been observing their disguises.

Also, I'm curious as to what, exactly Michael's mission was. Execute Ana-Lucia? (And, what about Eko and Charlie?) Free Fenry? (Fenry indicated that his people would cut him off since he failed in his mission, which would contradict Michael freeing him. If that what was doing.) Or is he to act as a Judas Goat to lead the survivors into a trap set by the Others? I suppose it's also possible that he could be acting on his own, trying to force a confrontation between the survivors and the Others.

Interesting that Dr. Sheperd nicknamed Ana-Lucia "Sarah," like his daughter-in-law.

And speaking of Walt, anyone notice how he stopped appearing after Shannon died? It wasn't just Shannon who was seeing him; Sayid saw him as well.

dsa_shea 05-05-06 06:12 PM

Anyone seen the Canadian promo for next week? Link?

MEJHarrison 05-05-06 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by brizz
i was thinking the same thing...seems like there'd be flash burns or whatever since the gun was only inches away.

Well the person who would most likely notice that fact (the cop), is now DEAD! :banana:


Originally Posted by dsa_shea
Anyone seen the Canadian promo for next week? Link?

Asking the same question three times within a span of 10 posts is a little overkill. I'm sure if/when someone has the link you're after, they'll post it.

cracksky 05-05-06 07:47 PM

Now I'm thinking maybe Michael was told to take out Ana-Lucia and bring back Libby because she's on their side. That's why he was so horrified to accidently shoot her. He went in with 'Henry' to blast himself so it would look like he shot all three of them. But 'H' would likely know Libby and it wouldn't make sense to kill her. Either way, Michael won't get his deal for Walt now, if that's what it was. Libby has to be part of the Dharma psych team who was undercover at the hospital to recruit Hugo by planting the numbers guy there and observing them.

Michael Corvin 05-05-06 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
If the Others have targeted Ana Lucia for execution for killing two of their own -- as evidenced by Fenry trying to kill her Michael apparently succeeding -- where does that leave Eko and Charlie, who have also killed Others?

I have a feeling that Michael did cut some kind of deal with the Others over Walt. I also wonder if Michael and Fenry don't already know each other. Maybe he, Michael, and Mr. Friendly were hanging out together before Fenry got captured by Danielle.

Yeah, Michael did seem pretty horrified at dumping bullets into Libby -- either it was because she was just an innocent bystander, or Michael knew that she was an Other.

Kate knew that the Others abandoned the hatch they held Claire in, but she had also figured out that the Others were using the ragged clothes and fake beards to disguise their actual nature when they left the confines of their hatch.

Given that, what Michael was saying could be on the level. He never claimed to have had any contact with them, only observed them. He could've just been observing their disguises.

Also, I'm curious as to what, exactly Michael's mission was. Execute Ana-Lucia? (And, what about Eko and Charlie?) Free Fenry? (Fenry indicated that his people would cut him off since he failed in his mission, which would contradict Michael freeing him. If that what was doing.) Or is he to act as a Judas Goat to lead the survivors into a trap set by the Others? I suppose it's also possible that he could be acting on his own, trying to force a confrontation between the survivors and the Others.

Interesting that Dr. Sheperd nicknamed Ana-Lucia "Sarah," like his daughter-in-law.

And speaking of Walt, anyone notice how he stopped appearing after Shannon died? It wasn't just Shannon who was seeing him; Sayid saw him as well.

Who the fuck is Fenry? Is the 'H' busted on your keyboard?

Interesting point about Walt. Leads more credence to those that think Sayid was just agreeing with Shannon to appease her vs. him actually seeing Walt.


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