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Originally Posted by Jimmy James
Uh huh. Yeah, he's going to come off as completely credible with that bunch of baloney. I understand he's going to say it. What jury isn't going to look right through it and see the BS that it is?
While I'll admit the courtroom stuff didn't do a whole lot for me, it didn't bother me because there was really so little of it. I would've liked it a lot more if they had an entire ep devoted to the trial and fleshed it out a little more. |
Originally Posted by Jcheckel
The problem with that is the reaction they got out of Keith with him going after the lawyer in court. It shows that Keith could potentially act like that. Don't forget the defense didn't have to show Aaron didn't do it, all they had to show was that he may not have done it.
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The courtoom scenes were indicative of my problems with VM's second season. They were sloppy, illogical, and poorly written. The show's last handful of episode have been on an upswing, but getting there was such a chore-unmemorable characters, too many distracting subplots, weak writing, and contrived situations, etc. Yes, the courtoom scenes made no sense, but then Keith removing the girl from the hotel room also made no sense, but Keith had to do it for plot purposes. This season it's been about a plot and less about the characters. I have lost count of how many times I've said, "That doesn't make any sense" while watching the show this season.
It's disappointing that Kristen Bell had the chance under the new Emmy system to nab a nomination, but she has nothing to submit. I can't think of one episode that would land her a nomination. Last year, she had a handful. |
See how I figured it was...
Woody Molested many kids. Lamb and Lucky being one of them. Both have an STD. Lamb hooked up that girl (Forgot her name...It would be Macs real family...damn whats her name?) and has an STD. Lucky had an STD. Lucky hooked up with Meg (now dead). The baby as truley Luckys, not Duncans (Hence why Megs parents bailed him out of jail last week). Meg then transfer the STD to Duncan, and then to Veronica. Makes sense why Lamb seemed curious incourt when they announced she had an STD. He obviously new the reason why. Woody is not the killer. He may be a child molester, not a killer. Wheres big dick? Havn't seen him in a while. Convienent he leaves 2 episodes in and is hardly mentioned since. Kendra (Cordelia) is not bad, she is maybe working with Keith to try and catch the Fitzpatricks. Next week...wow. So can't wait. |
Hold on now -- Veronica had the clap, right? Are we really expected that something as common as the clap is going to be traced to this one source from ages ago like that? They haven't laid any groundwork for it to be the special yellow Venezuelan clap or anyting like that. I imagine a third of those kids in the high school have had it from 15 different sources.
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Here's an idea, though I'm not really sure how it would play out:
What if the reason Beaver wouldn't make out with Mac wasn't because he was shy or molested but because he had the STD??? |
I certainly hope the new CW takes all these basketball pre-emptions into account when they decide on whether to renew VM. It's the only UPN show I actually watch.
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Originally Posted by wmansir
Yeah, there is a lot to wrap up next week.
I'm not sure if Weevil will get wrapped up, it may turn into a plotline for next season. And hell even if he does get nailed for Thumper's murder, that wouldn't exactly be unjust. Weevil didn't murder Felix. He stole the drug money that led to the Fitzpatricks murdering Felix. The only thing Weevil can be held accountable for is assualt and stealing drug money. |
Here's some minor speculation with absolutely no basis in fact and really no sense of direction:
Going back to season one in part, what if Aaron Echols actually is innocent of the murder of Lily Kane and instead the guilty party was Lynn Echols? She had commented that she had suspected Aaron of cheating and had investigators follow him, so she may have known about Aaron and Lily. And though it is assumed she jumped, no body was found. Her disappearance conveniently took her out of any consideration in the investigation. Now jump to this season. Something thats been bugging me is why Kendall would stop in to see Aaron at the prison. But what if Kendall has ties to Lynn (perhaps through a certain doctor with ties to the Fitzpatricks??) and this is some form of grand set up? Lynn was a pill popper and may have gotten her fix through the doctor and/or Fitzpatricks. Some things to consider: 1. Lynn would have likely known the stunt driver through Aaron. 2. The re-introduction of the videotaper seemed a bit forced to be coincidence. 3. The body that fell from the bridge could have been the real Kendall. 4. Rob Thomas loves red herrings, and I get the feeling that the whole Woody Goodman/incorporation thing is all one big red herring. The real question then becomes motive (esp. regarding the bus) and thats ultimately where I get stuck. Seems a bit involved to be just about some form of payback to Aaron. I'm probably barking up an entirely wrong tree but its something to consider. |
Compelling though it is, I think the Woody-chlamydia link is stretching it too far.
I can't help but assume that it's a red herring, and that the lineage is Kendall-Duncan-Veronica, setting up some recognition that the saintly Duncan is just as fallible as Logan, and giving Logan something of a redemption in Veronica's eyes... |
Originally Posted by SonOfAStu
:hscratch:
Weevil didn't murder Felix. He stole the drug money that led to the Fitzpatricks murdering Felix. The only thing Weevil can be held accountable for is assualt and stealing drug money. -------- Something tells me there are going to be a lot of :hscratch: next week. There are so many red herrings and bizarre connections this season that I don't see any way to explain them all away. I don't buy that Meg slept with Lucky. Has it been mentioned that she dated him for a while or something? I like the idea that Aaron got to my sweet little innocent Veronica's Doctor, since she wasn't showing symptoms it is plausible. But I don't buy it because I think the clap trail will lead back somewhere. |
I have mixed feelings about this episode. I liked how the episode went about presenting the clues about Woody being a child molester but the whole Aaron Echolls trial just didn't "click" for me. I think that Jimmy James brought up a lot of the points that bugged me about the trial scenes.
It's kind of disappointing that the second last episode of the season was so uneven and was hoping that it will keep up the momentum that the show gathered from the last few episodes previously. Having said that, I still cannot wait for next week season finale and to find out who's responsible for the bus crash. |
Originally Posted by WillieTheShakes
I can't help but assume that it's a red herring, and that the lineage is Kendall-Duncan-Veronica, setting up some recognition that the saintly Duncan is just as fallible as Logan, and giving Logan something of a redemption in Veronica's eyes...
It's a well known fact that Rob defends Duncan to the fans constantly, and even throws in a jab at Logan when Logan hasn't even been brought up. I'm not saying he hates Logan, but he definitely sees Duncan as the good guy and Logan as "fucked-up". Hell, his word to describe Duncan was "pure". WTF? There's a definite disconnect between the Duncan they show onscreen and the Duncan Rob has created in his fanciful mind. |
Originally Posted by Sir_Fireboard
Considering Rob thinks the sun shines out of Duncan's ass, I find that unlikely. Seriously, Donut lies constantly to Veronica, acts totally shifty and had no intention of telling V that he was having a baby with another girl, but he still rides off into the sunset with a hero's farewell and with V acting like he was the bestest boyfriend ever.
It's a well known fact that Rob defends Duncan to the fans constantly, and even throws in a jab at Logan when Logan hasn't even been brought up. I'm not saying he hates Logan, but he definitely sees Duncan as the good guy and Logan as "fucked-up". Hell, his word to describe Duncan was "pure". WTF? There's a definite disconnect between the Duncan they show onscreen and the Duncan Rob has created in his fanciful mind. |
Originally Posted by Jimmy James
Hold on now -- Veronica had the clap, right?
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Originally Posted by WillieTheShakes
Clearly I need to spend more time reading the fan-sites before I go off speculating... mea culpa.
I just hate the character and am sick of Rob being his butt monkey to the detriment of the show. Oh, and I forgot to say that Rob said Duncan didn't sleep with Kendall, it was just another one of their "cool" "twists". |
Originally Posted by dhmac
Well, technically, she had Chlamydia, not Gonorrhea (aka "the clap").
Thanks for the correction, and I hope you didn't have first-hand experience with which to correct me. ;) |
Originally Posted by SonOfAStu
:hscratch:
Weevil didn't murder Felix. He stole the drug money that led to the Fitzpatricks murdering Felix. The only thing Weevil can be held accountable for is assualt and stealing drug money. Well, Thumper murdered Felix, but I didn't think Weevil ended up stealing the money from Thumper. I thought he hid it on Thumper's bike and that's where the Fitzpatrcks found it. That's why they were so sure Thumper was trying to rip them off. |
Originally Posted by TheAllPurposeNothing
Here's some minor speculation with absolutely no basis in fact and really no sense of direction:
Going back to season one in part, what if Aaron Echols actually is innocent of the murder of Lily Kane and instead the guilty party was Lynn Echols? She had commented that she had suspected Aaron of cheating and had investigators follow him, so she may have known about Aaron and Lily. And though it is assumed she jumped, no body was found. Her disappearance conveniently took her out of any consideration in the investigation. Now jump to this season. Something thats been bugging me is why Kendall would stop in to see Aaron at the prison. But what if Kendall has ties to Lynn (perhaps through a certain doctor with ties to the Fitzpatricks??) and this is some form of grand set up? Lynn was a pill popper and may have gotten her fix through the doctor and/or Fitzpatricks. Some things to consider: 1. Lynn would have likely known the stunt driver through Aaron. 2. The re-introduction of the videotaper seemed a bit forced to be coincidence. 3. The body that fell from the bridge could have been the real Kendall. 4. Rob Thomas loves red herrings, and I get the feeling that the whole Woody Goodman/incorporation thing is all one big red herring. The real question then becomes motive (esp. regarding the bus) and thats ultimately where I get stuck. Seems a bit involved to be just about some form of payback to Aaron. I'm probably barking up an entirely wrong tree but its something to consider. Spoiler:
I guess I zoned on the Lamb having a STD. When did this come to light? |
Anyone think Gia is in on anything? Woody told Keth he was never use his daighter to spy on others...but maybe he is? She WAS suppose to be on the bus...but wasn't. She saw the car with the pirate sticker...something no one else saw. She happened to get stalked by Lucky..
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