04/12/06 - South Park - Cartoon Wars Part II
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Originally Posted by MartinBlank
I think they kind of had to dumb-down the concept of "free-speech" relative to censorship. Ask your average Joe, the majority of people love throwing around the word "censorship" without actaully knowing what it means. If you're not allowed to say something, your're obviously being censored, which of course is incorrect.
Great episode! It's all or nothing.
Great episode! It's all or nothing.
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Originally Posted by Snowmaker
Was that removal by Comedy Central part of the actual episode, or was that for real?
I'm guessing these episodes were in response they couldn't use Mohammad in an upcoming episode since the reactions of the cartoons. Since he was already in an older episode.
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Originally Posted by jas722
I don't know but I'm guessing it was for real. Since they called the President of Fox at the end of the episode Doug, as in Doug Herzog the President of Comedy Central.
I'm guessing these episodes were in response they couldn't use Mohammad in an upcoming episode since the reactions of the cartoons. Since he was already in an older episode.
I'm guessing these episodes were in response they couldn't use Mohammad in an upcoming episode since the reactions of the cartoons. Since he was already in an older episode.
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Very True, that is what I thought when I saw the first part. Thought they were ripping on Tom Cruise and Scientology for getting their reruns pulled of Trapped in the Closet. Also the protesting against the Virgin Mary episode. But now I'm really not sure with the naming of the President at the end.
Who would have thought that what used to be a simple comedy would turn into this great show.
Who would have thought that what used to be a simple comedy would turn into this great show.
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South Park is really a phenomenon.
Just awesome. We should be cheering in the streets over this episode just as you-know-who were rioting in the streets over another cartoon.
The total pussying out of our free society to the demands of violent lunatics is really our downfall. And very few in any medium are willing to say that publicly out of fear. We think they'll like us and not blow us up, but the exact opposite is true. Our showing weakness and the willingness to adhere to other people's religious rules at the expense or our right as human beings to speak freely without fear only spurs them on to end us.
Just awesome. We should be cheering in the streets over this episode just as you-know-who were rioting in the streets over another cartoon.
The total pussying out of our free society to the demands of violent lunatics is really our downfall. And very few in any medium are willing to say that publicly out of fear. We think they'll like us and not blow us up, but the exact opposite is true. Our showing weakness and the willingness to adhere to other people's religious rules at the expense or our right as human beings to speak freely without fear only spurs them on to end us.
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So it was okay to show a depiction of Mohammad a couple years ago (Jesus & Friends), but now it's not?
Hey, look - it's a depiction of Mohammad!
Bring on the riots!
Hey, look - it's a depiction of Mohammad!
Bring on the riots!
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"I'ma American. I'ma pregnant witha baby and I'm not married!"
"Let's Crap!"
"Hello, I'ma Jesus. Woulda you like me to crap on you Mr. Bush?"
"Yummy yummy crap!"
"Let's Crap!"
"Hello, I'ma Jesus. Woulda you like me to crap on you Mr. Bush?"
"Yummy yummy crap!"
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the one thing that would have made the episode even better: if jack bauer had been on the other end of that red phone saying "mr. president, i need to know where you stand on this!" other than that, the episode was gold. including the end.
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Eh, I guess I'm in the minority, but I didn't think it was so funny, except for the first few minutes (won't spoil it for those who haven't seen it)
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Originally Posted by FatTony
the one thing that would have made the episode even better: if jack bauer had been on the other end of that red phone saying "mr. president, i need to know where you stand on this!" other than that, the episode was gold. including the end.
I loved the episodes. Regardless of who censored the ending (comedy central, viacom, or matt & trey themselves), it's pretty sad that an American can't show a tame image of Mohammed, but it's acceptable to show several Americans, the President and Jesus defiling the American flag. Seems fair.
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Danny Pocket: "*Cough*Cough*Cough*....ow."
As for the removal of Mohammed, that has to be SP doing it as a joke rather than the network doing it.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to remove some word balls from the manatee tank.
As for the removal of Mohammed, that has to be SP doing it as a joke rather than the network doing it.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to remove some word balls from the manatee tank.
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Yeah I meant to mention that they started using the Star Trek III Enterprise destruct sequence, although the geek in me knows they forgot a zero.
Yes.
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Loved this episode. They poked as much fun at themselves as at Family Guy - all the talk about jokes evolving from the plot and some cartoons getting too preachy.
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Speaking of Star Trek references, when Cartman first walked into that room with the manities, it reminded me a lot of the Xindi Aquatics. For some reason I thought they were going to start talking/squeeling or whatever the hell it was they did.
I liked that line about FG not being preachy like some shows. Can't remember it exactly. Also loved the Cartman/Kyle fight "omage" to the Peter Griffin/Chicken fight.
I liked that line about FG not being preachy like some shows. Can't remember it exactly. Also loved the Cartman/Kyle fight "omage" to the Peter Griffin/Chicken fight.
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Wow, I can't believe how overly hyped some of you are for this episode. It was ok i guess. I don't think I laughed more than once or twice, but it was still entertaining.
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Grunter should be happy considering he wrote half a dozen of the lines in tonight's episode.
Great episode, this season is turning out fantastic so far. I still say there probably wasn't a need for a two-parter on this but they handled it well enough. I loved "Bart" wanting to have Family Guy taken off the air and for some reason, them fighting through the King of the Hill studio with nothing going on got a chuckle out of me. That was pretty mean of them to insult the manatees intelligence like that though.
Laundry, Date, Mexico, Gary Coleman! The perfect Family Guy joke! *dies laughing*
Censorship.
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Wow, South Park fans are idiots (at least over at the official site). There's like a dozen threads with people literally ON FIRE trying to start letter-(hate)-writing campaigns about Comedy Central "censoring" the episode. Please, somebody reassure me. Are people REALLY this stupid? It can't be, can it?
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Originally Posted by PixyJunket
Wow, South Park fans are idiots (at least over at the official site). There's like a dozen threads with people literally ON FIRE trying to start letter-(hate)-writing campaigns about Comedy Central "censoring" the episode. Please, somebody reassure me. Are people REALLY this stupid? It can't be, can it?