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Palaver 08-06-07 08:19 AM

I thought this was a decent start for the series. It didn't knock me over or anything, but I thought it was a well done hour of entertainment with a less than subtle jab at current events.

Looking forward to next week. Looks very promising.

riley_dude 08-06-07 11:34 AM

Waterston and Davis were very good although I could kinda see what was coming before it did.

Chew 08-06-07 04:28 PM

OK episode, but I was hoping they would've started with a stronger one.

How much did it tank in the ratings? :(

skatefan20 08-06-07 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by Jam Master Jay
yeah there really wasn't anything else on so I checked it out too. It was pretty decent, wasn't terrible. It reminded me of a similar episode of The Outer Limits

Watched it for Davis and Waterston. I thought it was mediocre, definitely reminded me of those crap The Outer Limits episodes.

But I'll tune in for next week's episode for Terry O'quinn. :)

Scott27 08-06-07 11:53 PM


Originally Posted by Chew
How much did it tank in the ratings? :(

2.76 million viewers, .8 rating in the 18-49 demo.
Link

Josh-da-man 08-07-07 01:48 AM

Damn... that's in Veronica Mars territory.

I'll be surprised if they even air all six episodes.

Flave 08-07-07 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
Damn... that's in Veronica Mars territory.

I'll be surprised if they even air all six episodes.

They won't -- only airing the first four eps.

And for being shown in the asshole slot of television (Sat. @ 10), Veronica Mars territory ain't bad.

movielib 08-08-07 12:04 AM

I thought the first one was decent. I will not be able to see the second as my local station is pre-empting it for preseason football and they have not rescheduled it. :(

Flave 08-08-07 10:57 AM

^^^
Come over to the dark side Luke...we have no need of networks here.

:)

Goldberg74 08-11-07 04:58 PM

Bump to remind folks that the second episode is airing tonight (after "Charlie's Angels: Full throttle):

The second episode, "The Awakening", stars Terry O'Quinn ("Alias", "Lost") and Elisabeth Rohm[bot] ("Law & Order").

Spoiler:
Based on the short story by Hollywood Blacklist author Howard Fast ("Spartacus," "Citizen Tom Paine"), the episode opens outside Baghdad, where U.S. soldiers discover a mysterious casualty - one they can't even identify as human. William B. Davis ("The X-Files") guest stars as the President of the United States. Michael Petroni ("Till Human Voices Wake Us") directed from a script he wrote, based on the short story by Howard Fast.

Goldberg74 08-11-07 10:20 PM

For the most part, I liked tonight's episode, until I started to get preached to... and then the whole "The World Turns on the USA" thing was shaky, but I agreed with the ending.

Rohm[bot] wasn't that bad, and <strike>Locke</strike> O'Quinn was pretty good too (although they should have put a hairpiece on him).

I really want to read the short story that this was based on ("The General Zapped An Angel"), but I couldn't find it online (full text), but I did find a cool Valejo painting:

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6973/019yg8.jpg

calhoun07 08-12-07 11:06 AM

Why is this only on Saturday night? If I wasn't off of work yesterday night (which I was off for the first time in a LOOOOOONG time!) I wouldn't have realized this was on...I would have been waiting for it to show up in regular prime time slots. I had no idea they still showed first run programs on TV on Saturday night....I thought it was episodes of COPS and reruns of good shows from the week before.

dhmac 08-12-07 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by calhoun07
Why is this only on Saturday night?

This is how a network buries a show. ABC executives obviously didn't like the show once the episodes were delivered, so they are burning off the episodes during a low-ratings timeslot (Saturdays at 10pm ET) in a low-ratings time of the year (Summer). It's essentially filler and after they finish burning off the handful of episodes, it'll never be shown on ABC ever again (although it'll probably eventually show up on a cable channel like the Sci-Fi Channel as well as DVD sometime in the future.)

aktick 08-12-07 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by movielib
I will not be able to see the second as my local station is pre-empting it for preseason football and they have not rescheduled it. :(

Yeah, that ticked me off, but then I turned on my TV last night when the storm was coming through, and it was on, damn program guide not up to date. :mad2:

starman9000 08-12-07 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by Goldberg74
For the most part, I liked tonight's episode, until I started to get preached to... and then the whole "The World Turns on the USA" thing was shaky, but I agreed with the ending.


Yeah, I agree with that.

I don't mind the whole cheesy Peace angle, but it was pretty lame that the US were the only ones who were skeptical.

aktick 08-12-07 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by starman9000
Yeah, I agree with that.

I don't mind the whole cheesy Peace angle, but it was pretty lame that the US were the only ones who were skeptical.

Haven't seen this yet...but the first episode I actually enjoyed despite the anti-US rhetoric, this week we get it again? I'll watch if only for Quinn, but if all the eps are like this, maybe it's a big reason ABC didn't air it sooner/in a better time slot?

J.J.A. Sabadoz 08-12-07 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by starman9000
Yeah, I agree with that.

I don't mind the whole cheesy Peace angle, but it was pretty lame that the US were the only ones who were skeptical.

I think being sceptical of something claiming to be a god is the smart thing to do. Though America is one of the more religious nations, so it's unlikely they'd be the hold outs.

J.J.A. Sabadoz 08-12-07 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by aktick
Haven't seen this yet...but the first episode I actually enjoyed despite the anti-US rhetoric, this week we get it again? I'll watch if only for Quinn, but if all the eps are like this, maybe it's a big reason ABC didn't air it sooner/in a better time slot?

Some SF writers think that 'good SF' means making everything into an alagory of current events and trying to make people think of them by another angle (I think that this approach is lazy, but)
Since this show is made by Americans, for Americans, obviouisly, it will focus on commenting on America.
Besides, what was so anti american? the suggestion that America sometimes acts unilaterally? I wonder where they got that from.
Just becasue america isn't shown as flawless doesn't mean that it's anti-american.

J.J.A. Sabadoz 08-12-07 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by Goldberg74
For the most part, I liked tonight's episode, until I started to get preached to... and then the whole "The World Turns on the USA" thing was shaky, but I agreed with the ending.

Doing religion in SF is very hard, and is rarely done well. I think Babylon 5 did a good job, casting religious like characters as aliens, and the anime series Evangelion did well by keeping a distance, and taking it as an objective reality.

Most of the time it fails because religion is not science, so in the context of a SF story, it just becomes a deus ex machina.

This episoe left a lot unexplained, like, why didn't the messengers just fly down and talk themselves, why go through all the trouble they did.
And did the president's revalation come to him on his own, or was he communicating telepathically with locke, or something?

mike7162 08-12-07 02:59 PM

I thought this episode was heavy-handed, preachy, and yes, a little anti-American. The idea that we're operating out of fear because we don't "get" each other is a little naive. We understand each other all too well - that's why we keep building bombs! Anyway, loved all the X-Files shout outs, and this episode confirmed for me how truly lousy an actress Elisabeth Rohm is.

Goldberg74 08-12-07 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by mike7162
... and this episode confirmed for me how truly lousy an actress Elisabeth Rohm is.

Ditto.

Especially when she was crying by the car. That was bad.

Chew 08-13-07 06:24 AM

Two episodes in a row involving the president and nuclear bombs.

Hey, Masters of Sci-Fi, how about a little more sci-fi?

starman9000 08-13-07 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by Chew
Two episodes in a row involving the president and nuclear bombs.

Hey, Masters of Sci-Fi, how about a little more sci-fi?


C'mon this one had:
Spoiler:
Angels that warned of complete anhilation if people didn't disarm and then proceeded to disarm those people anyway


At least next weeks show looks like a different format

Kevin M. Dean 08-13-07 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by starman9000
C'mon this one had:
Spoiler:
Angels that warned of complete anhilation if people didn't disarm and then proceeded to disarm those people anyway

...and made even less sense by having the other countries of the world threaten to use their disarming weapons to destroy the US because they weren't agreeing to disarm their already disarming weapons. Death by plot-hole.

starman9000 08-13-07 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by Kevin M. Dean
...and made even less sense by having the other countries of the world threaten to use their disarming weapons to destroy the US because they weren't agreeing to disarm their already disarming weapons. Death by plot-hole.


Yeah...and at the end, did the angel use it's powers to get the president to stand down anyway with that trance speach? This show should have lasted about 10 seconds:

Shot 1: God has thought "I am sick of war on Earth"
Shot 2: God erases all weapons on Earth
Shot 3: World Leaders confused, decide to have a potluck
Credits: Cue Marvin Gaye


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