Some Cylons have no idea they are Cylons and thus have no idea who the other Cylons are. Plus, from the beginning I always thought it strange that a Cylon didn't survive a nuclear blast and yet somehow a Cylon standing in front of Baltar saves him.

resinrats already explained how it was possible that Baltar lived while Six died in that blast:

I thought it was pretty clear when we saw it in the miniseries; if it's a source of controversy or mystery why Baltar survived, then it's been present since day one, and this episode did nothing to change that.

As for your reasoning about Cylon sleeper agents, that only works one way. Yes, a sleeper doesn't know who other Cylons are--but self-aware Cylons DO know who other Cylons are. It seems likely to me that fully self-aware Caprica Boomer would've pegged Baltar immediately upon seeing him when she was brought on board Galactica. Furthermore, Baltar being a sleeper agent Cylon still doesn't mesh with the point I made in my last post: If he was a sleeper, then the Cylons didn't need Six to get the crucial information from him in the miniseries.

IMO, the following characters won't EVER be revealed as Cylon sleepers:

Adama, Apollo, Starbuck, Helo, Roslin, Baltar, Ellen, Zarek, Tyrol

Why, you ask? Because these characters are so major and so regular that the twist would be a little too big. As in so big it would come across as a cheap plot contrivance rather than an element of the story that actually makes any sort of sense in the grand scheme of things. Thus far, BSG has demonstrated smarter writing than that--writing that adheres to logic and character development rather than cheap tactics of pulling ever-larger rugs out from the viewer. The show has also avoided painting the situation in black and white by having sympathetic and villainous/ambiguous characters on both sides of the fight. Cylon Baltar would go against so much of what they've done in that regard.

Helo is 100% definitely not a cylon. If they were going to have a cylon/human breeding program, why use two cylons? If Helo does turn out to be a Cylon, the whole show will fall apart.

Zarek and Tyrol are the two most likely candidates if a major character turns out to be a toaster. Gaeta is anothe strong possibility. Tyrol and Gaeta would be sleepers, while Zarek would know exactly what he's doing.

Another vote for Gaeta here, if only because he's been relegated to background scenes in the past 10 episodes. That must mean they'll go with the big reveal in the 3rd season that he was a Cylon all along!

I disagree with Tyrol he was a love intrest for Boomer so he is most likely human.

I'm thinking debris hit her, but her body shielded baltar. so she died from bleeding and not radiation

as far as the other human cyclons, I hope none of them are people that have been seen so far
the human cylon thing kind of gets to me

I think that at this point, the most likely Cylon suspects would be Roslin's new aide (Billy's replacement) and the woman who adopted Sharon's baby.

I'm sort of torn on Doc Cottle; having him be in on the conspiracy to hide the baby (along with Adama, Roslin, and the aid) would present a good opportunity to have the Cylons in on the plot. But I think he's the only physician in the entire fleet, and they'd be kind of fucked with him.

I'm a bit unclear on something from the whole download/resurrection thing. After the original Galactica-Sharon was killed, Preggo-Sharon (aka the original Caprica-Sharon) said that she remembered Chief Tyrol and the relationship they had. But since the original Galactica-Sharon was downloaded into just one new body, why would any other Sharons also have her memories?

I believe she had a relationship with Chief before she fell for Helo. When she went down to Caprica, the new Sharon then came back to Galactica, and then formed new memories with Chief. I dunno...it's all confusing now. :)

Hmm...what if Billy were a Cylon? That could bring him back into the show.

To take it step further, even if Billy weren't a Cylon, they might be able to bring him back. The premise they've set up on the show makes it convenient (and plausible) to bring back just about anyone who's died. If it works for Cylons, why couldn't it work for humans as well? As far as I can tell, the human cylons are biological. They don't seem to have any extraordinary powers. Maybe a little stronger, but they seem to die or get injured just as easily as humans.

Also, the Resurrection ship was destroyed, but is that the only Resurrection ship that exists? Could the Cylons build another one?

Wouldn't there be a physician on "The Beast"?

All your pics are showing up as red X's for me...but Aaron Doral is #5.

There's definitely a Resurrection facility on or near Caprica, not necessarily a ship. That's obvious because "Hero 6" and "Hero Boomer/8" discussed how long it would take for that #3 model to resurrect and sell them out.

The Res Ship destroyed by the Colonial fleet was simply a mobile version to keep the Cylon fleet and infiltrators safe. There's no reason to think it isn't just a matter of time before the Cylon fleet has another Res facility to bring the hurt back to the Colonials, should they choose.

OR

There was only the one resurrection facility and it was destroyed some time ago and the Cylons don't know or just didn't tell the "Heroes" and that #3 consciousness won't be downloaded to give them away.

Don't you mean be kind of fucked without him?

Pretty sure Billy's not coming back. A lot of talk on some other boards about how the actor was written off the show so he could pursue other acting endeavors.

I don't know if this is a fact or not, but it seemed to me that as the model numbers increases, the apparent age of the model decreases. I mean, 3 looks older than 6 and 6 looks older than 8. Not sure if Doral/#5 fits in with that exactly, but it appears so.

If that's true, I wonder if they age naturally. I mean, when they create a new model, does it remain in Cylon custody until it reaches the desired age? Certainly they have to grow/change to inflitrate our society in a believable manner. Further, if they age, does that mean all the "bodies" of a particular model were made simultaneously and you could, in theory, kill them all?

So, if there's 4 models "younger" than Boomer/#8, how young? Will we see an actual child model in season 3?

Then again, maybe they're just made that way on demand from some sort of mold or DNA model, but that's not as interesting to me :p

I would like to see an upcoming episode on just when and how the mechanized cylons developed the humunoid cylons.

I was actually thinking about this possibility recently, and how cool it'd be to have a child Cylon. The only problem with that, though, is that actors age, and with children the aging process is much more noticeable. So that Cylon character would be rather limited-use, unless they employed someone in their late teens or early twenties who just LOOKED young enough to pass as a child for years and years to come. (Alexis Bledel, I'm looking at you.)

I wondered if the new mom of the cylon baby might be a cylon. That would really stretch though, since there was a list of people to choose from, all of which presumably were pregnant. However, the cylons did know that Sharon was pregnant and may have started to make some plans knowing that they humans would likely not kill the baby, but also not let Sharon raise it.

Fracking great episode.

Here we all thought BG was starting to lose it after that 2-3 mid-run stretch. ;)

The last two have made up for it and I'm sure the 2 part season finale will be even better.

Great point on Baltar, but why can't Ellen be a cylon? She's been on like 3 or 4 episodes in the whole series and if Adama can think she's a cylon I'm sold.

2 strong episodes in a row, but it was kind of cheap to have only half the skinjob cylons on screen at any time.

Incredible. I'll admit I was one of the worried ones when the quality stumbled for a few eps, but this and the one where Lee is XO on the Beast have been an incredible return to form. And I'll admit I groaned out loud when I saw the xxx months ago at the beginning of the ep, but I was happily proven wrong of course.

I was confused about the deceased baby at first, but that was the one from the ep before right? Another body switch like the two Sharon's?

Ron Moore mentions this in the podcast for the episode, so he's GONE. Downloaded was a pretty excellent episode. I was skeptical at a "cylon centric" episode but it was done brilliantly.

As for more Cylon sleepers in the group we know, I think the only real possibility is Ellen Tigh, but I would still highly doubt it. I am really looking forward to the next 2 episodes, hopefully they can end this season on a real high note (especially since there have been about 3 really shitty eps this season run).

MATT

If age is what determines models. Wouldn't it be funny if Ellen Tigh was #1. :)