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SuprVgeta 02-03-06 02:35 AM


Originally Posted by Matt Millheiser
He'll be back later in the season.

Thanks for spoiling that for me!

Great ending to this episode.

DeputyDave 02-03-06 02:37 AM

Well that was crap.
Lionel gave up his hostile takeover of Lex simply because he threatened to tell his secret to Martha? I wonder how many billions that cost ol' dad? Bat chick has to be the worst actress outside of porn.
I figured out today why I still watch this show. I loved Superman as a kid. In bed after I was suposed to be asleep, reading Superman comics with a flash light under the covers... Seeing Christopher Reeve flying for the first time on the big screen... I think I'm just trying to capture the tiniest bit of the magic again. I'll wade through crap just for the chance of catching a glimpse again.

Lara Means 02-03-06 04:05 AM

The stories on this show are just completely awful.

Cartload 02-03-06 05:25 AM

Yeah, the ending of this episode confirmed my suspicions that it's going to suffer greatly without John Schneider (granted it was FAR from being a show that I really thought highly of even with him).

Chew 02-03-06 05:59 AM

I'm not so sure I like the fact that a killer vigilante will prove to be as big as or bigger of an influence on Clark than his father was (phone booth, glasses, working at the Daily Planet, actually dressing up to fight crime, etc).

MrPink 02-03-06 07:49 AM

Why did Schneider leave the show? This is Superman not Batman we are watching.
As for the Angel of Vengence I assume they wanted to put Batman in the show and couldn't. I was so hoping that we were done with the freaks from the kryptonite showers but it looks like they will still be around

GuessWho 02-03-06 08:01 AM

Schneider didn't leave, he was let go.


How far is Metropolis? I thought it was a few hours, but last night Martha drove back and forth at last twice in one night.

Lionel didn't see Clark use his powers. Lionel was facing the sidewalk when Clark ran to him.

MrPink 02-03-06 08:04 AM

But Lionel already knows about Clark's powers.
I don't agree with them letting him go. What did he want to much money? I would have prefered that they just replace him with another actor.

GuessWho 02-03-06 08:07 AM

They let him go simply for the storyline. Nothing else. No bad feelings either way.

This explains it:
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index...ory=1&id=34364

Timber 02-03-06 08:59 AM

Awful, awful episode. The FX were terrible, the storyline was bad, and the acting was pathetic. Even the hot girl couldn't bring this episode up for me.

They don't have a Goodwill or Salvation Army in Smallville? The only one in Metropolis is down a dark alley?

Red Dog 02-03-06 09:14 AM

So is the aim here to make Superman more Batman-like? God I hope not.

Was that chick supposed to be some superhero from the DC Universe?

Also, was that the same actress who played the hot girl on Freddie on Wednesday?

Red Dog 02-03-06 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by Timber
They don't have a Goodwill or Salvation Army in Smallville? The only one in Metropolis is down a dark alley?


I thought the same thing. :lol:

Chew 02-03-06 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by Red Dog
Was that chick supposed to be some superhero from the DC Universe?

If it is, I can't think of who it's supposed to be. I may be wrong, but I think the general unwritten rule on this show seems to be: meteor rock superpowers = Smallville TV creation.

Deadpool 02-03-06 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by Red Dog
Was that chick supposed to be some superhero from the DC Universe?

As long as they don't call her Huntress I don't care who she is or what they call her. That would just piss off the comic geek in me.

Hell
Spoiler:
I'm waiting to see how they spin Cyborg when he shows up in a few weeks. If they fuck his story up I may be done with the show.

TOLEN 02-03-06 10:43 AM

I also felt more sadness about Jonathan in this episode than last. Wasn't a great episode, but was enjoyable.

Red Dog 02-03-06 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by Red Dog
Also, was that the same actress who played the hot girl on Freddie on Wednesday?


I was right. Same chick - Denise Quiñones, a former Miss Universe. :drool:

Jadzia 02-03-06 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by Timber
They don't have a Goodwill or Salvation Army in Smallville? The only one in Metropolis is down a dark alley?

Not that I am defending this show or anything, but didn't she say she was going to Metropolis to meet with the Governor and she was going to drop off the clothes while there?

riley_dude 02-03-06 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by MrPink
But Lionel already knows about Clark's powers.
I don't agree with them letting him go. What did he want to much money? I would have prefered that they just replace him with another actor.

He didn't have a choice in the matter. Storyline dictated.

How does Lionel know about Clark powers? They switched bodies but does not remember as far as I can recolect.

RocShemp 02-03-06 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by Patman
If anyone cares, Andrea is played by Denise Quinones, a former Miss Universe (hails from Puerto Rico).

I knew she looked familiar (and I don't event watch any of those Miss ____ type shows)! That was bugging me throughout the whole ep.

RocShemp 02-03-06 12:24 PM

I'm glad I wasn't the only one that noticed the Elfman theme. So was she supposed to be Smallville's version of Huntress?

riley_dude 02-03-06 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by RocShemp
I knew she looked familiar (and I don't event watch any of those Miss ____ type shows)! That was bugging me throughout the whole ep.

People seem to care more about her looks than the actual episode. Rightfully so since it was one of the worst of the entire series.

Zien 02-03-06 05:54 PM

Really sad ending. Since there was a lot of leftover time reversal resentment in the last one, this one gave a proper sendoff. The look into the camera "goodbye" was great.

Rest of ep was aight. Would have been better with Bruce Wayne. Interesting bit about Clark wanting to figure out how not to hide himself. How the hell are they going to do the glasses thing? Everyone knows him!

RocShemp 02-03-06 06:16 PM

The only idea I could come up with for the glasses is having his eyes get dammaged (albeit temporarily). If you ever watched the Superman animated series with Tim Daly, there was a fight between Superman and Darkseid that was a result of Darkseid having SUperman brainwashed into one of his soldiers. Well, in that ep, when Darkseid was going to use his omega beams, Superman covered Darkseid's eyes. The resulting blast seriously messed Darkseid up. Now, imaging some super powered character (perhaps Zod or another of his underlings) doing to same to Clark in a fight. As a result Clark has diminished vision and requires glasses. Also, perhaps you can make him lose his heat vision and have diminsihed x-ray vision (again, both temporarily). Give enough time for all the characters to become accustomed to a bespectacled Clark. Everything proceeds as normal and, during the course of the show, Clark discovers his eyesight has improved on its own but, since it's the end of the show, he's already begun to fashion his super hero persona and chooses to keep the glasses in order to partially throw suspicion away from him.

Also, for this to work, there'd have to be at least one season where Clark and Lex never see one another so that, by the time Clark has matured into a man, Lex would be unfamiliar with how much he's changed. Blah blah blah. And so forth.

mikehunt 02-03-06 06:26 PM

only decent part was Jonathan saying goodbye, but then that just made me pissed off again that they got rid of him
Smallville should have taken a chance and become a version of the continuity with no Lana Lang

riley_dude 02-03-06 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by mikehunt
only decent part was Jonathan saying goodbye, but then that just made me pissed off again that they got rid of him
Small should have taken a chance and become a version of the continuity with no Lana Lang

I agree.


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