Hang on for season 4. It's definitely one of the best, if not THE best season.

Stiller's first episode as Frank was "The Puffy Shirt" in season five. John Randolph had played Frank in "The Handicap Spot" from season four, and they later went back and reshot his scenes with Stiller for syndication.

You have a very good point. I don't think I laughed out loud much at at when watching this in primetime. It wasn't until I was disgussing it with co-workers the next day that I'd be laughing so hard that tears would start.

I have to agree with most here that season 4 is the best season of the show. If you can't watch the whole season, just watch the last disc of season 4. Classic episodes there :up:

Damn, that is late in the run. I thought he was around much earlier. Puffy shirt. Another classic. :)

The Boyfriend is my favorite episode. And not just because I love Keith Hernandez (and no, not in a sexual way---in a I love the Mets way).

In my opinion, you need to stick it out. The key to the show is Frank Costanza. As he evolves, George reacts, which changes how Jerry reacts and alters the George/Elaine relationship. Stick on board pal, stick on board.

Agreed. I'd be a shame to tough it out through the sub-par seasons and give up a season early. Seasons 4+ are my favorite.

If the season I'm watching, the "second best" one, gets a m'eh and my viewing log to date as a guide (especially my character reviews): is season 4 so immensely better that it's going to turn my opinion around?

Probably not. But you will get more laughs out of it. Maybe not enough to drastically change your opinion. But 4 is widely regarded as the pinnacle.

You don't need to stick it out. Thanks for going so far with it - it's been an intresting read. One last thing, though, you really should watch "The Contest". Just that one episode. It's arguably the most famous, and possibly the funniest, of the show's entire run. I think you might even enjoy it and you deserve to end your experiment with a laugh.

You've made it this far. You don't have to watch through "The Contest". Just watch "The Contest."

I say since you've come this far, why not stick it out for just one more season?

(And if you do, definitely watch the syndicated version of "The Handicap Spot" instead of the original version, just so you can see Jerry Stiller as George's father.)

Dear Chew. If you're reading this, you've gotten out of your "not gonna read this thread anymore" prison.. And if you've come this far, maybe you're willing to come a little further. You remember the name of the show, don't you? We could use a good man to help continue our project. I'll keep an eye out for you and the game of Risk ready. Remember, Michael. Seinfeld is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies. I will be hoping that this letter finds you, and finds you well. Your friend. Ryu.






[edited to reflect that the OP is Chew, not Michael. Oops, sorry Chew.]

:up:

Very nice.

The Fix-Up -- It was certainly fun to see "Janice" without her nasal accent and chill-to-the-bone laugh.

The Limo -- It was also fun to see "Nate Fisher" as a Nazi.

I guess I don't have anything more to comment on these episodes.

I am thinking about kitkat's suggestion for tonight though.

The fix up and the Limo are both very bad episodes, IMO.

Man, there sure are a lot of bad episodes of this show, aren't there?

I've never really enjoyed "Seinfeld" either, and I've seen 25-30 episodes over the years (including the "classics" like The Contest, The Puffy Shirt, etc.) Never really did much for me, and I wouldn't have any desire to sit through another season of a show I wasn't really enjoying, no matter how "good" people say it gets.

Maybe it seems irrational but I think 3 seasons is enough time to prove a show's worth.

The Limo is one of my favorite episodes of Seinfeld. So many great lines in that one.

Not really. It is just a bumpy road the first 2-3 seasons. Each still has something to offer.

Really? I think it is quite possibly THE worst episode of the entire 9 year run. Not sure why, it just bugs me. :)

But given that the 1st season is only 5 episodes and the 2nd is only 13, seeing the first 3 seasons of Seinfeld (40 episodes total) is the equivalent of watching 2 full seasons of most long-running shows.

...so Chew really needs to see the 4th Season to get 3 "full" seasons worth done. ;)

Yeah, I'm calling an end to my grand experiment regardless of how many seasons we agree or disagree on. Last night I jumped ahead per kitkat's suggestion and watched:

The Contest -- I enjoyed this episode. Not enough that I regret my decision, however. Three big laughs: the first spongebath scene, Kramer's "I'm out", and Jerry singing along to Tiny Toons.

I watched a grand total of 38 episodes, which is a lot more of an experiment than I give the average new program. My opinion improved to "indifference" towards the show, but when you do not like half the characters: it makes it pretty hard to move beyond that.

I appreciate everybody who played along and am a bit sorry I still "don't get the humor". :)

I should also add that is was very weird to see "Daphne Moon" as Jerry's girlfriend in that episode. She acted and talked almost exactly the same as her Frasier character. Considering Frasier was also on during this timeframe, it seems a little odd.

Not a joke.

Actually, this episode aired during the final season of Cheers. A year before Frasier hit the airwaves.

That was the episode that hook me to the show.

I don't think that you need to apologize (even for a little bit) Chew, for not liking this show.

Yup, my math was wrong.