i think the whole scoring thing has been too confusing.

i'd like to know exactly how many audience votes went to each dance team.

Given the way the points work, Drew has won this thing.

Stacy got 1 point for 3rd place in viewer votes, and 2 points for 2nd place in judges votes for 3 total points.

Best case for Jerry, he has to have 1st place votes for viewer votes (3 points), and 1 point for 3rd in judges votes for 4 points. (worse case, Jerry picked up 3 points, but won 2nd place on the viewer votes)

Drew has 3 points for judges votes, and at least 2 points for viewer votes for 5 points. (best case, he for 1st place in both categories for 6 points)

I don't even know what is going on anymore. Is there anymore voting?


edit: I guess not, since there doesn't appear to be anymore dancing. What a fucking waste of time.

Had Carrie-Anne not given Stacy and Tony an 8 on their free style, it could have made it interesting because that would have tied up the judges votes between them (87 to 87), so who'd get the points in tie? Doe they get 2 or 3 points each? 2.5 points? What a mess this scoring system is.

ABC could have easily finished this off in one hour, they are milking the extra hour just like American Idol does with their audition shows.

So I didn't watch S1 of this farce. How did a Playboy Playmate win S1, since this show must lean toward a female demographic? Was it solely because she was a soap-star and got the homemaker vote?

ok drew won. whew!

Shocking ending!

Last season only had 2 teams in the finals, and you got 2 points for winning the judges vote, and 2 points for winning the viewers vote, and the tie-breaker was the winner of the viewers vote, and the teams pretty much tied, with John O'Hurley winning the judges vote, but Kelly Monaco's rapid soap opera fanbase pushed her into the win because she won the viewers vote.

I'm not a homemaker, and I don't watch General Hospital, but I'm a woman, and I voted for her. I liked how she steadily improved, and her dance routines were more enjoyable. A lot of people liked John O'Hurley, but his dancing reminded me of someone acting in a constipation commercial.

Kelly Monaco won both the audience's and the judges' votes.

Last week they explained the voting:

1st Place in the judging = 3 points
2nd Place in the judging = 2 points
3rd Place in the judging = 1 point

1st Place in audience voting = 3 points, 2nd place =2 points 3rd place 1 point

Ties to be decided by audience voting.

Therefore, it didn't matter if Carrie Anne had given Stacey and partner a 9. Clearly, Stacey got third in the voting cause if they got 1st in the voting they would have won it all and if they got 2nd most call-in votes Jerry or Drew would have been off (why Drew getting off? because in the unlikely event that he got the least call in votes, then Jerry would have had to gotten the most and then they would have all tied with a total of 4 points with Drew getting kicked out first because of the call-in tie-breaker).

Thus, Stacey and partner got the least call in votes. So they were screwed no matter what Carrie Anne's score was.

But, I just want to know if the judges votes were tied between 2 team, what happens to the votes? Their point system doesn't address that scenario.

I still think they need to just go with aggregate scoring, if there are 90 points at play from the judges, then make the viewer votes scaled up to 90 points for the team with the most votes, and dole out other points based on the highest vote total in proportion to the 90 points. Add up the points, and the total high score wins (in the event of another tie, I guess give it to who had the highest number of viewer votes).

This 3-2-1 point system is silly.

Going back to season 1, I guess Kelly did get a 30 from the judges, so she did outpoint John in both sets of votes, but John did beat Kelly in a re-match later last summer.

I, for one, am sooo happy Drew and Cheryl won!

I have sat through a lot of dance competitions in my time, and have learned that the best technical dancer does not always win. Judges look for complete performances and dances that move you or make you feel something. That's just the nature of the judging.

I not just was looking at Drew, Stacy or Jerry. To me it was both partners performing, at to tell you the truth, a lot of times, to me, Cheryl sooo outdanced Tony, which made Drew look that much better. I always looked forward to their dances, knowing how she pushed the edge of her choreography, week after week. Tony's was very predictable.

Anyway, maybe Jerry's fan base was made up of people who just thought he had the most to overcome and admired him for that. Drew and Stacy were both performers. Drew was in a band and on broadway. Stacy had dance lessons before and also performs in "the ring". Jerry was an athlete. Totally different venue. So maybe he got props for that.

And, I would find it interesting, while before commenting on people's "butterface" (?)..(Your kidding anyway, right...she was stunning) people would have to post a picture of themselves first. Just a thought....

It was a great season, and made me an out and out fan of this style ballroom dance. Cant wait to see what stars step up for next season!

And that was such a shameful thing that the show no longer acknowledges it. It's as if the rematch never happened. O'Hurley's boorishness about losing was disgusting. The rematch was so geared towards him winning that there was no doubt who would walk away the winner. Kelly Monaco is a bigger woman than I am. I would not have shown up tonight after all that nonsense.

I disagree with you completely but you are entitled to your opinion.

I do have to ask what performing in wrestling has to do with dancing. Jerry's athleticism would do a lot more for him than Stacy's ability to do a standing choke against the turnbuckle with her leg.

What did he say? I turned it off after the deserving winner got bounced.

Because she is a performer....and doing choreoghraphed moves. Being a football player doesnt give you any edge in a dance competition at all. She's taken years of dance. I was just saying that I think that since he had the most to learn maybe got him a strong fan base.

just to clairfy things Stacy was more of a Valet then a wrestler.

"The voting is just so obscure. America just voted off the girl with the perfect score...yah, I still think we have a shot."

Glad that Jerry didn't win -- but you guys are right -- once Stacey was kicked out (and was told she was in 3rd place), it was mathematically impossible for Drew to lose.

Therefore, i'm very glad they changed the voting so that THREE teams would be in the finals. The way the stupid audience voting works, NO MATTER how many teams there are, if you only vote off ONE person a week, then the person with the most audience votes will NEVER get kicked off. Say there are 100 teams -- if one team wins the audience vote, they get 100 points. If that same team comes in last with the judges, they'll get only 1 extra point for 101 total. There is no mathematical way for EVERY ONE of the other 99 teams to ALL get worse than a score of 101.

At least this year, ABC thought it through a little more and realized that by having TWO teams kicked off with one vote, they could try to avoid another fiasco.

Jeez.. imagine if Stacey came in 2nd in the voting with Jerry coming in 1st. Three way tie for first would have given the title to Jerry. Ack.

Jerry was running choreographed routes. Yes, Stacy had an advantage over some because she took dance lessons when she was younger but to claim anything more about it is erroneous. They are all "performers". Master P is a "performer" and we saw what good that did him.

Kenny Mayne had a lot to learn as well and he got bounced Week 1.

I am not faulting Jerry for having the votes and he seems like a very nice guy (I do still have nightmares of Oakland Jerry complete with cornrows) but for him to make it that far is an outrage. The best three were Stacy, Drew, and Lisa in that order.

Here's a short wikipedia recap of season 1 (and some of season 2)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing...The_Stars_(USA)

Being a good Wide Rec is all about practicing foot work, timing, and being in synch with the QB. I think that would have to help your ability to learn and practice the dances...

The end result reminded me of the dance contest in SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER when Tony wins he knew he wasn't the best dancing team. And he went and gave the money & trophy to the team that should have won. Tony knew politics played in why he won.
And by the way Master P. and Jerry Rice hung on , a certain group out there couldn't take having blacks lose out on all things dancing!

I don't know much about these viewer-voting shows. But I watched Thurday's episode and tried five times to place a vote for Stacy, but I kept getting busy signals. Eventually I got through late at night, and it said "voting in your time zone is closed".

I wonder how many other people got busy signals?