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Deftones 04-27-06 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
You say that but have yet to explain it. Please enlighten us. I thought Josh and I were on the right track.

No, I questioned your underlining, because you were essentially providing the right answer. But, you only posted that and no follow up so I was unsure of what you were trying to do.

Joe Molotov 04-27-06 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by Michael Corvin

:lol:

I knew there was something fishy about that guy.

mrpayroll 04-27-06 12:07 PM

http://tmz.aol.com/article2/_a/miche...26142409990001


Inside Michelle Rodriguez's Jailhouse Digs
'Lost' star is given "no special treatment"

By TMZ.COM STAFF

(April 26, 3:10PM ET) -- 'Lost' jailbird Michelle Rodriguez is living in a military style dorm with 60 other women accused of all kinds of crimes, TMZ has learned.

And Oahu Community Correctional Center warden Nolan Espinda told TMZ that the 27-year-old actress would get "no special treatment" during her five day stay at his facility.

"We will treat her like anybody else," he revealed. "Miss Rodriguez will sleep in a bunk bed, wear the brown two-piece correctional uniform and will get out of bed at 6.30AM with lights-out at 9.30PM.

"There are four guards watching over the women inside the dorm but they are not armed. Our inmates have been charged with a variety of crimes and there is a special holding area for anyone who behaves violently but, so far, there have been no such incidents involving Miss Rodriguez."

Rodriguez's day begins at 6.30AM with an early morning call from the guards. A simple breakfast of eggs, cereal, meat, tea and coffee is then served to the prisoners in a communal dining area. After breakfast the women are allowed to share a communal shower to get washed. :hump:

They are allowed access to a communal recreational area where they can read, play board games (like chess or dominoes) and interact with one another. A television set is also provided, allowing Rodriguez to catch-up on the events in the outside world or perhaps happenings on the latest episode of 'Lost.'

Lunch is served at 12.30PM and consists of a variety of vegetables, fish, meat or chicken with fruit juices, milk or coffee.

After lunch, the inmates are allowed out for one hour of exercise in a large outdoor area where they can play games or mingle with one another before going back inside the correctional center, which was built in 1913.

Around 1,000 men are housed in adjacent buildings but at no time are they allowed to interact with the women. A simple dinner is served at 4:00PM consisting of dishes like meatloaf, chicken or pasta with potatoes and vegetables.

The inmates are then allowed back into the communal area where they can watch television or play board games before being led back to their dorm for lights-out at 9.30PM. Visits are restricted to Saturdays and Sundays at the facility. Rodriguez is expected to be released this weekend.

The actress chose to do five days jail-time instead of community service after she pled guilty to driving under the influence on Tuesday. She faces a second probation hearing on a separate DUI offense in Los Angeles on May 5 which could result in a 16-month sentence behind bars.

Sounds pretty cushy to me! :thumbsup:

Chris

MEJHarrison 04-27-06 12:14 PM

I wonder if we have a place like that here in Oregon? My three year old is going through the "why" phase and I could use a little vacation. Plus I have my trusty TiVo to take care of things while I'm gone.

BDLOU 04-27-06 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by Jimmy James
In a perfect world, you'd be right. We don't live in anything close to a perfect world where making laws is concerned, though. You don't want to see how that is done. It's as nasty as making sausage. This isn't the first area where it took 5, 6, 7, or 8 bites of the apple to get the law to where it should be.


Where it should be? More like, where it can produce the most revenue as possible and still seem like a good law.

Jimmy James 04-27-06 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by BDLOU
Where it should be? More like, where it can produce the most revenue as possible and still seem like a good law.

Oh, I don't know about that at all. Here in the Commonwealth of Virginia, I'd guess that starting with the second offense, it actually costs the state or locality more than it brings in because of the mandatory minimum incarceration. Your fine certainly isn't going to pay for the cost once you get the rather stout mandatory minimum that comes with 3rd or subsequent. If revenue was the motive, you could make .08 to .11 a sweet little revenue zone by handing out mandatory $2000 fines like candy but not subjecting people to jail/prison.

ETA: One funny thing in the DUI literature I have seen is that the accident rate apparently does DOWN from 0.00 to 0.01 before going back up to level with 0.00 at 0.02 and climbing from there. You have to think that is just statistical noise, but it is really funny to think that people actually drive better on a thimble-full.

i86time 04-27-06 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by Jimmy James
ETA: One funny thing in the DUI literature I have seen is that the accident rate apparently does DOWN from 0.00 to 0.01 before going back up to level with 0.00 at 0.02 and climbing from there. You have to think that is just statistical noise, but it is really funny to think that people actually drive better on a thimble-full.

I'd have to say, without having read what you have, that it's pure noise or sloppy research. I am doubting that whatever report you read actually employed data that tested the BAC of all drivers who were involved in the accidents they reported, especially those that did not appear to be drinking (via a field sobriety test, breath/clothing smell, open container, etc.). According to the California DMV drink chart, up to 4 hours after, 1 drink in a 180lb person would, on average, still yield at least a .01 BAC. I suspect that some (maybe even a lot) of the data for .00 BAC (which is causing the higher rate for that level) just came from reports where the officer did not consider the suspect to be under the influence and the BAC was not actually tested, but the suspect was in fact sporting a BAC higher than .00, which but could not be confirmed because he/she was not tested. Also, did this report only look at the driver responsible for the accident? It is possible that the person who gets hit is the one uder the influence and had they been sober they might have been able to avoid it. If you have evidence from the methods to prove otherwise, I apologize- on the surface I just don't believe it.

Jimmy James 04-27-06 06:06 PM

I have no idea about the methodology. As I recall, the graph was in some CLE material from who knows when I stumbled upon during an internship at a local prosecutor's office two summers back. For all I know, some lazy lawyer freehanded it 40 years ago and nobody has questioned it since.

Nick Martin 04-27-06 06:35 PM

mrpayroll, was the 'humping' emoticon a part of the original article as well?

:D :D

mrpayroll 04-27-06 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by Nick Martin
mrpayroll, was the 'humping' emoticon a part of the original article as well?

:D :D


Of course! I would NEVER edit a serious news story!

Chris ;)

mrpayroll 05-23-06 11:39 AM

http://www.accesshollywood.com/news/ah364.shtml


Michelle Rodriguez Sentenced To Jail...Again

LOS ANGELES (May 23, 2006) -- Actress Michelle Rodriguez was sentenced to 60 days in jail for violating her probation, said a spokesman for the city attorney.

Judge Rex Hesseman also sentenced the 27-year-old "Lost" star to 30 days of community service with the Sheriff's Department, stints with the Mothers Against Drunk Driving victim impact panel and the city's hospital and morgue program, plus an alcohol education program, spokesman Frank Mateljan said Monday.

Rodriguez is scheduled to begin her jail term on May 31, he said.

The violation stemmed from a December arrest in Honolulu on suspicion of drunk driving, for which she served five days in jail.

The Honolulu arrest violated the three-year probation term Rodriguez was given in 2004 after pleading no contest to charges of hit-and-run, driving on a suspended license and driving under the influence of alcohol, Mateljan said.

Rodriguez's probation was extended until June, 2009, he said.

A message left with Rodriguez's attorney, Henry Holmes, was not immediately returned.

Rodriguez's "Lost" character, Ana Lucia, was fatally shot two weeks ago.


Copyright 2006 by The Associated Press.

Chris

BDLOU 05-23-06 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by Jimmy James
Oh, I don't know about that at all. Here in the Commonwealth of Virginia, I'd guess that starting with the second offense, it actually costs the state or locality more than it brings in because of the mandatory minimum incarceration. Your fine certainly isn't going to pay for the cost once you get the rather stout mandatory minimum that comes with 3rd or subsequent. If revenue was the motive, you could make .08 to .11 a sweet little revenue zone by handing out mandatory $2000 fines like candy but not subjecting people to jail/prison.

ETA: One funny thing in the DUI literature I have seen is that the accident rate apparently does DOWN from 0.00 to 0.01 before going back up to level with 0.00 at 0.02 and climbing from there. You have to think that is just statistical noise, but it is really funny to think that people actually drive better on a thimble-full.

That is the second offense. I'm talking about the revenue generated for first time offenders from when it was .10 to .08. There was no statistic evidence that proved someone is fine at .08 but not at .10. The only reason they lowered it was to increase revenue.

Jay G. 05-23-06 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by BDLOU
I'm talking about the revenue generated for first time offenders from when it was .10 to .08. There was no statistic evidence that proved someone is fine at .08 but not at .10. The only reason they lowered it was to increase revenue.

Actually, there's statistical evidence that shows that someone is not fine at even .08.

http://www.hibbingmn.com/dailytribun...tory_id=207592

“Impairment for driving begins between .02 and .05 percent, which shows that it doesn’t take a lot of time or alcohol to be slightly impaired. Being that the legal limit is .08 doesn’t mean we should drink until then and then drive.”
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/inju...0htm/appA.html

The probability of a crash increases significantly at .05 and even more rapidly at .08.
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/outr...perselaws.html

While there is no “safe” amount of alcohol for drivers, most people can drink moderately and drive legally when the illegal per se limit is set at .08 BAC. A 170-pound male typically would have to consume more than four drinks in one hour on an empty stomach to reach a BAC of .08. A 135-pound female typically would have to consume three drinks in the same time frame.
http://www.druglibrary.org/SCHAFFER/...ving/s15p1.htm

The results of the analyses revealed statistically significant reductions of driver involvement in alcohol-related fatal crashes after .08 legislation took effect in four of the five states, ranging from 4% in California to 40% in Vermont. This assessment appears to indicate that the implementation of .08 laws and other related activities (i.e. public information about the law) are associated with reductions in fatal crash driver alcohol involvement.
It should be noted that .08 is the point at which it is illegal to drive. You'd have to have a BAC of under .08 to be considered "fine" by the law.

mrpayroll 05-25-06 06:36 PM

http://tmz.aol.com/article2/_a/rodri...25155609990002


Rodriguez Starts Jail Time -- Then Vows to Leave U.S.

'Lost' star begins 60-day sentence for violating probation
By TMZ.COM STAFF

(May 25) -- 'Lost' star Michelle Rodriguez turned herself in to start serving her jail sentence Thursday -- one day after pledging to leave the country once her hard time is done.

http://cdn.digitalcity.com/ch_tmz_ph...25_365x250.jpg

Rodriguez will serve 60 days in a Los Angeles jail for a DUI-related probation violation. She showed up at LA Metro Court on Thursday with her lawyer to start her term.

Less than a day earlier, Rodriguez was videotaped walking outside of a book store on Melrose Avenue, where she told photographers she's not long for the U.S. "I'm moving to France," she says. "You know, people don't bother you there. I do what I got to do. Then I leave the country and never come back."
Don't let the door hit you on the way out! :thumbsup:

Chris

movieking 05-25-06 07:13 PM

Thank God. For a minute, I thought that she was going to move to Canada!

mike7162 05-25-06 07:17 PM

Whatever, Michelle - as long as you're not driving down my street.

mrpayroll 05-30-06 03:46 PM

http://tmz.aol.com/article2/_a/miche...30152809990001



Michelle Rodriguez's Four-Hour Jail Stint
'Lost' star's 60-day sentence dramatically cut

By TMZ.COM STAFF

(May 30, 3:40PM ET) -- TMZ has learned Michelle Rodriguez's 60-day DUI jail sentence turned into four hours and 27 minutes behind bars -- a byproduct of overcrowding and budget problems in LA's jails.

The 'Lost' star checked herself into jail last Thursday to begin a 60-day sentence for DUI-related probation violations. At the time, the star said she would serve her time, then flee the country for France.

But a spokesman for the LA city attorney's office said Rodriguez was released after just less than four and a half hours as part of a book and release program typical for non-violent offenders with sentences of less than 90 days. Steve Whitmore, a spokesman for the LA County Sheriff's Department, said the early release program was implemented in 2002 "as a last resort" to meet budget cuts that reached $180 million.

Over the weekend, Rodriguez not only was spotted stateside -- but she was back in the celebrity swing of things. On Saturday, Rodriguez was seen at the Ultimate Fighting Championships at the Staples Center, alongside Paris Hilton, David Spade and others.

:lol: How much you wanna bet that she knew this was going to happen, going in?

Chris

saoirse 05-30-06 04:03 PM

What a loser. Glad she's leaving.
She's all pissed of at America, because there are laws against driving drunk?

pinata242 05-30-06 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by mrpayroll
:lol: How much you wanna bet that she knew this was going to happen, going in?

Chris

Is a hundred-thousand-million percent a real thing? Because that's my guess. 100,000,000,000%

Joeboo835 05-30-06 04:11 PM

Where does it say she hates america? I think she just wants to get away from the papperazzi (however you spell that).

As far as knowing this was going to happen before going in, you're 100% correct. She said on Leno that the reason she took the jail time was because "I can do way more with my time for comunity service than having someone tell me what to do, like clean the highway, etc.". Basically she's saying that she can do more good picking what she wants to do for community service. Obviusly a complete load of crap excuse.

pinata242 05-30-06 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by Joeboo835
Where does it say she hates america? I think she just wants to get away from the papperazzi (however you spell that).

Yeah, we all know how easy it is to get away from the paparazzi in France. Just ask Princess Di.

aktick 05-30-06 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by pinata242
Yeah, we all know how easy it is to get away from the paparazzi in France. Just ask Princess Di.

Kind of what I was thinking. :o

Joeboo835 05-31-06 08:22 AM

Wouldn't that be european paparazzi? I seriously doubt they'll care, or even know show she is.

And that was Princess Diana. Di > Ana Lucia

madara 05-31-06 10:23 AM

Rofl, France. With her attitude she should blend in quite well there from the general statments I've heard of the french.

Doughboy 05-31-06 12:25 PM


Less than a day earlier, Rodriguez was videotaped walking outside of a book store on Melrose Avenue, where she told photographers she's not long for the U.S. "I'm moving to France," she says. "You know, people don't bother you there. I do what I got to do. Then I leave the country and never come back."
Well, Butch does have a point. It's virtually impossible to get fired there. Then again, the unemployment rate is like 25% for people in her age group.


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