Why was Friends Such a Huge Hit?
Although I've never been a huge fan of Friends, due to the massive publicity and high ratings, Friends was an absurdly popular sitcom that was heavily cemented into popular culture during the mid 90s to early 2000s, in much the same way Cheers was a mega hit during most of the 1980s.
Now although I don't despise Friends per se, most of the time I don't know what the fuss is about this show and the cast members, I always get a strong feeling of indifference and mostly regard Friends as somewhat overrated. Not that I actively hate Friends, far from it, I just don't get it. What made Friends one of the mega hits of the last decade? |
4 attractive white people living in NYC, what's not to like about that?
NBC's Must see TV push? The other chanels gave up on Thursday nights back during Cheers, Cosby, Seinfeld runs? |
Originally Posted by Timber
4 attractive white people living in NYC, what's not to like about that?
NBC's Must see TV push? The other chanels gave up on Thursday nights back during Cheers, Cosby, Seinfeld runs? I blame a lot of it on the theme song, but I think the third reason in the quote is the reality. Friends was the last show to show up in the time period when NBC could make anything a hit by hammocking it into Thursdays. |
Jennifer Aniston kept sneaking raisins on the set.
-popcorn- |
There are a lot of white people who own TV sets.
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Originally Posted by Jadzia
There are a lot of white people who own TV sets.
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I think the reasons it was popular are simple. Great casting, direction and writing. Most of the strength comes from the casting. I can't imagine any other actors that would work as well as they did. All of the names floated about probably wouldn't have gotten the job done nearly as well.
In a sense, Friends pulled off what everything from How I Met Your Mother, Committed and the Single Guy, couldn't and or can't. |
Originally Posted by zebop
I think the reasons it was popular are simple. Great casting, direction and writing. Most of the strength comes from the casting. I can't imagine any other actors that would work as well as they did. All of the names floated about probably wouldn't have gotten the job done nearly as well.
In a sense, Friends pulled off what everything from How I Met Your Mother, Committed and the Single Guy, couldn't and or can't. |
The first season (and some of the subsequent ones) were freakin' hilarious. As we've seen countless times over history, once the better writing talent moved on and the show stopped being nearly as good, people were just in the habit of watching it. <i>e.r.</i> still pulls in great ratings, but to be blunt, it's shit. How many of us watched <i>The X-Files</i> finale? I'm still watching <i>Alias</i>. Why? Certainly not because it's good. It's because I'm used to it. To understand why <i>Friends</i> was such a huge hit, you have to remember 1994, remember that it was sandwiched between monster hits <i>Seinfeld</i> and <i>Mad About You</i>, and remember that the other networks were so used to running scared from NBC Thursdays that <i>Friends</i> rarely had any competition. Once it became popular, it simply sustained itself, quality or not.
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Originally Posted by das Monkey
The first season (and some of the subsequent ones) were freakin' hilarious.
1. (sadly) the song. Sad but true. It hit a chord with the younger crowd. It was damn catchy. The show was doing well enough, then they release that song and then everyone has to watch the show to see what they are missing. 2. a simple love story of boy meets girl, pines for girl, etc. the whole seesaw. Aniston & Schwimmer nailed it. These were two characters you rooted for. In an era of family comedy and a hit where all the characters were assholes (Seinfeld) it was a breath of fresh air. Also at the time most shows were geared towards teens or 30-somethings. No one had ventured into the mid-twenty's with any success. |
Originally Posted by Jadzia
There are a lot of white people who own TV sets.
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Originally Posted by zebop
In a sense, Friends pulled off what everything from How I Met Your Mother, Committed and the Single Guy, couldn't and or can't.
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Originally Posted by CPT
Committed, The Single Guy, Two Guys and a Girl, and Men Behaving Badly were great shows to watch. I never expected them to Emmys, but they were fun.
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Exactly. It was a solid show whether you are a fan or not. I agree with the casting, direction, etc. but that doesn't make an explosive hit. Same with time slot. How many shows have failed in the same slot sandwiched between two hit shows? Two dozen? From what I remember it wasn't a smash out of the gates, it was later on in the first season. I attribute the explosion to two things.
1. (sadly) the song. Sad but true. It hit a chord with the younger crowd. It was damn catchy. The show was doing well enough, then they release that song and then everyone has to watch the show to see what they are missing. 2. a simple love story of boy meets girl, pines for girl, etc. the whole seesaw. Aniston & Schwimmer nailed it. These were two characters you rooted for. In an era of family comedy and a hit where all the characters were assholes (Seinfeld) it was a breath of fresh air. Also at the time most shows were geared towards teens or 30-somethings. No one had ventured into the mid-twenty's with any success. |
I understand The Cosby Show did well because of all the white people, too. -wink-
The first season was great, and I started watching it when I was a newlywed. My new wife and I found it great, and it became a habit. Just like Cheers. |
To me it was the same over and over again. I just couldn't get into it.
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Originally Posted by CPT
Jennifer Aniston kept sneaking raisins on the set.
-popcorn- |
Originally Posted by Jimmy James
I don't think it is nearly this simple. These things may have contributed, but the history of television is littered with shows that had equally good or even better casting, direction, and writing that either didn't break out like Friends did or even got the ax before they should have. Take as an example Newsradio. I mention it because time slot stability obviously has a lot to do with it. Sure, the show [Friends] moved times on Thursday. It never moved off of Thursday that I recall, though.
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Originally Posted by CPT
Committed, The Single Guy, Two Guys and a Girl, and Men Behaving Badly were great shows to watch. I never expected them to get Emmys, but they were fun.
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Originally Posted by Timber
Loved every one of those shows but all but The Single Guy never got any kind of a push.
I think that if NBC would have kept shows on Thursday night instead of just letting them sit there for a year then moving them we might have <i>just</i> experienced the series finales of Caroline in the City and Suddenly Susan ;) "Friends" was such a huge hit because it had a great cast that was able to interact together successfully. There were also a lot of great running storylines throughout the entire series. Add that with NBC scheduling it on Thursday night (and remember -- they did put it in the post-Seinfeld timeslot) it was able to succeed. As for tv shows changing timeslots, NBC was always flinging Frasier around and people continued to follow it. Why would anyone want to follow the Single Guy? Sure the first season was ok but a lot of the shows NBC tried out could not even match the quality of Suddenly Susan season one ;) And I'm serious... I think. SS wasn't THAT bad. Or was it? I will shut up now :) |
Originally Posted by nightwing82
I think that if NBC would have kept shows on Thursday night instead of just letting them sit there for a year then moving them we might have <i>just</i> experienced the series finales of Caroline in the City and Suddenly Susan ;)
I wonder how many crappy shows have occupied Thursday night since 1990. |
Which one was the longest to last? Susan and Caroline got 4 seasons (Veronica had 3) but NBC cut off Susan where as they let Caroline air her series finale. So I guess in the end Caroline won, probably not viewer wise though.
Which brings up another interesting question. Of all of the lesser successful Thursday night debuters, which was NBC's best effort? The Single Guy Caroline in the City Suddenly Susan Union Square Veronica's Closet Jesse |
You know "Madman of the People" is the clear quality winner of lesser Thursday night shows (and until we get a DVD set, we'll never get that crucial third part of "Blackout Thursday")
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Originally Posted by nightwing82
Which brings up another interesting question. Of all of the lesser successful Thursday night debuters, which was NBC's best effort?
The Single Guy Caroline in the City Suddenly Susan Union Square Veronica's Closet Jesse I was going to say I liked Union Square too, but I looked it up on IMDB and found out I've got no recolection of that show- I was thinking of Boston Common. |
Which brings up another interesting question. Of all of the lesser successful Thursday night debuters, which was NBC's best effort? The Single Guy, Caroline in the City, Suddenly Susan, Union Square, Veronica's Closet, Jesse hog shit, bat shit frog shit, rat shit Which one tastes the best? |
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