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Mayberry was on Star Trek.
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Somehow this made me think of Dewberry* on Star Trek, but with replicators, that's just a ridiculous idea (though no more ridiculous, I suppose, than Dewberry getting into Star Fleet). *(Dewberry was a contestant on Hell's Kitchen) |
Originally Posted by tasha99
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Somehow this made me think of Dewberry* on Star Trek *(Dewberry was a contestant on Hell's Kitchen) |
Originally Posted by DRG
That's hilarious because I thought the same thing. :)
Now if only someone with photoshopping skills would put him in uniform . . . http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/4...ewberry5lz.jpg |
This would make a most interesting study.
I was fully expecting Dewberry too... |
And Hill Valley (BTTF) was in Bruce Almighty...so what's the point here? That backlots are used over and over again in TV and movies?!
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For one thing, seeing Mayberry in ruins is a jolt. I've watched City on the Edge of Forever at least a dozen times, but never noticed Shatner and Collins walking past Floyd's BarberShop (with the name on the window twice!).
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Geez, that means we can add Andy Griffith to the list of shows that didn't take place as a result of the ending of St. Elsewhere! And the inclusion of that show would increase the number of the shows on there quite a bit!!!
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Whats this about the ending of "St. Elsewhere"?
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Originally Posted by UAIOE
Whats this about the ending of "St. Elsewhere"?
http://www.slushfactory.com/columns/...yZloMBeEdd.php I haven't read thru the article in a while, but I know Cheers can be added to the list, as Carla had her baby at St. Elsewhere, which also adds Boston Public (which references St. Elsewhere in an episode), The Practice, and Boston Legal as all shows that do not take place as a result of the ending of St. Elsewhere. I am also not sure if Scrubs is on there or not, but Scrubs would be included. As for the Star Trek/Knight Rider connection, that's explained here: http://www.poobala.com/standteam.html With all due respect to fans of Star Trek, Team Knight Rider and the writer of the episode I am about to discuss, this just shouldn't have happened. No really. I'm serious. It's just too freakin' weird second only to Star Trek: The Next Generation crossing over with the X-Men in funkiness (thank God that happened in a book and not on TV so I don't have to deal with it). I'm not even sure how to write this. It involves a character that was featured on both the original Star Trek and on the show Team Knight Rider. In real world TV terms Star Trek comes first but going chronologically in the show's timelines Team Knight Rider comes first. This is all just so weird and distressing. I'm not kidding. Okay, on the episode "The Changeling" of the original Star Trek, the Enterprise encounters a space probe named Nomad. Nomad was a space probe from Earth that merged with a probe named Tan-Ru sent into space by another race. The original Nomad probe was created by a scientist named Jackson Roykirk. Jackson Roykirk's goal had been to create the perfect artificially intelligent computer. When The Enterprise encounters the now fully sentient Nomad it is on a mission to destroy anything it views as non perfect life in the galaxy. As you can guess that means it's pretty much killing anything and everything. Specifically biological life. The Enterprise is saved from attack when Nomad mistakes the name Captain James Kirk for Jackson Roykirk. Thinking daddy's on board it calms down on the whole "kill kill kill" attitude... for awhile. Once it realizes "daddy" is biological Nomad gets back on the carnage bandwagon until Kirk defeats it with... logic (Spock should sue - he owns the Star Trek logic franchise). Kirk points out Nomad is killing all imperfect life. But Nomad mistook Kirk's name for his creator's. Thus, Nomad is imperfect. Faced with its own imperfection, Nomad blows itself up. I have to say, with someone so unable to deal with such a simple defeat suicide was inevitable. Not the guy you want to play cards with: he wins and its bad for you, he loses and he's got his head in the oven. Calm down little Nomad! I mean before you decide to take the big dirt nap over mishearing something you might want to consider getting your ears checked. Or here's a thought: maybe it wasn't a mistake based on your imperfection. Maybe the guy talking to you mumbled. Their imperfection not yours. Hello? And now you've gone and blowed yourself up because somebody else needs to enunciate more clearly. But I kid the deadly killing machine. Okay, cut to some 20 odd years later in our time and many MANY years earlier in Trek/Knight Rider's time. Team Knight Rider, a resurrection of the old Knight Rider series presented viewers not just with one talking car and its driver but a whole team of five talking vehicles and their drivers fighting the good fight against evil. In one episode the team found themselves facing off a Televangelist with an uncanny ability to predict when God would unleash his wrath in the form of earthquakes. Hmmm. How could he know? Oh wait. Because he causes them. D'oh! It seems that God is getting some help from Reverend Ransom and his good old earthquake machine. I know, "How the hell does this tie in to Star Trek?" Patience, patience. One of the team, Kevin "Trek" Sanders (see, "Trek"... it's coming), kinda goes missing only to show up on Reverend Ransom's TV show. Seems he decided to infiltrate the reverend's church on his own. Why would he do that? Well because "Trek" himself invented the stupid earthquake machine when he was a student at M.I.T. ten years earlier. Even though "Trek" did all the work, the project was headed by another scientist named... if you don't see it coming by now your blind... Dr. Jackson Roykirk. You know, Nomad's pappy. Seems old Roykirk's helping out crazy Reverend guy (sort of ironic and appropriate since Roykirk is played by M*A*S*H's resident priest, "Father Mulcahy", William Christopher). Yep, seems good old stable Roykirk has bought into the whole "earthquake machine" = "divine hand of God" idea. Pretty stupid genius ya ask me. Needless to say, the talking lube-job brigade kicks some crazy evangelistic arse and saves the day. Now since Nomad isn't launched till 2020 I'm guessing between this episode and Nomad's creation Roykirk got the therapy his boy Nomad so badly needed. Still, this Roykirk guy has a pretty crappy track record in the whole inventing game. First he heads a team to make an earthquake machine. Yeah, because that can be put to so many positive uses like... uh.... uh... creating petty havoc? Then the guy tries to do good. He comes up with a project with no possible negative repercussions: make a semi-sentient robot space probe that is supposed to go into space and look for alien life. No brainer. Its a feel good positive mission all around with no downside. Thing is leaving Earth so it can't hurt anyone and the odds of it even finding life out in space are so slim the odds of any problem is infinitesimal. But oh no. The guy ends up creating a hard of healing perfectionist that manages to kill off all the humanoid life in an entire space sector before it gets a B on an aural test and decides to take a pass on the whole life thing. Way to create an emissary of peace Roykirk! Please stop inventing helpful items before you kill us all. All that said, here is my big problem with the idea of these shows being connected. Okay okay I get the fun. You have a character named "Trek" and you make his mentor an obscure Star Trek character. Very nice. And given how distinct the name Jackson Roykirk is and that the time periods line up I'm fully willing to say this counts as a crossover. But here's the thing. The Knight Rider shows feature computer technology so advanced that not only can it create talking vehicles, it can create talking vehicles with artificial intelligence so elaborate that the vehicles have wisecracking and distinct personalities. Yet 20 years later Roykirk's best effort at artificial intelligence - Nomad - is nowhere near as sophisticated and, as it turns out, badly flawed. And forget that. In the time period the original Trek takes place the artificially intelligent computers Starfleet uses are emotion free bland stiffs. What the hell? In 1980 we can build smart ass chatty Trans Ams but by the 23rd century they've forgotten how to do that. Dahhh! I expected better of Starfleet. My guess is those freaking emotionless Vulcan's must have gotten Starfleet's AI contracts and thus deprived us of smart talking space ships. Damn you Spock! |
Originally Posted by calhoun07
The ending of St. Elsewhere was that the entire series was a fantasy of a little boy with autism. Somebody wrote an article how St. Elsewhere has also eliminated a huge portion of TV with that ending, pointing to several series over the years that had cross continuity in some way or another with St. Elsewhere or other shows that had a more direct continuity with the show.
http://www.slushfactory.com/columns/...yZloMBeEdd.php |
Originally Posted by calhoun07
Somebody wrote an article how St. Elsewhere has also eliminated a huge portion of TV with that ending, pointing to several series over the years that had cross continuity in some way or another with St. Elsewhere or other shows that had a more direct continuity with the show.
http://www.slushfactory.com/columns/...yZloMBeEdd.php An interesting read. But maybe we're looking at this wrong. Maybe all TV did NOT take place inside the mind of an autistic child. Maybe all TV takes place inside a dream belonging to Bob Newhart. |
Originally Posted by rennervision
An interesting read. But maybe we're looking at this wrong. Maybe all TV did NOT take place inside the mind of an autistic child. Maybe all TV takes place inside a dream belonging to Bob Newhart.
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Originally Posted by rennervision
An interesting read. But maybe we're looking at this wrong. Maybe all TV did NOT take place inside the mind of an autistic child. Maybe all TV takes place inside a dream belonging to Bob Newhart.
Or better yet....were all those shows revealed to be holographic images Captain Riker was viewing, since we can now link Enterprise all the way back with Andy Griffith and in turn St. Elsewhere and the Bob Newhart Show??? Not to mention all the shows that cross over with Bob Newhart and all the other shows that cross over with the crossovered shows that St. Elsewhere touched. twilight zone music fades..... |
For the record, according to http://www.poobala.com/crossoverlist.html these are the shows that cross over with St. Elsewhere and thus didn't happen...
Group 2 AFTERMASH The Andy Griffith Show The Beat Becker Beverly Hills Buntz Bob The Bob Newhart Show Buddies Can't Hurry Love Caroline In The City Cheers Chicago Hope Civil Wars Coach Cop Rock COPS Cosby The Danny Thomas Show The Dick Van Dyke Show The Drew Carey Show Early Edition Ellen Everybody Loves Raymond The Famous Teddy Z Frasier Friends The Geena Davis Show Gomer Pyle, U.S.M.C. Grace Under Fire High Society Hill Street Blues Home Improvement Homicide: Life On The Street Hope And Gloria I Dream Of Jeannie I Love Lucy Ink It's Gary Shandling's Show Joey The Joey Bishop Show The John Larroquette Show The King Of Queens L.A. Law Law And Order Law And Order: Criminal Intent Law And Order: Special Victims Unit Law And Order: Trial By Jury The Lone Gunmen Love And War Mad About You Make Room For Daddy Make Room For Granddaddy Martial Law M*A*S*H Mayberry R.F.D. Millennium Murphy Brown N.Y.P.D. Blue The Nanny New York Undercover Newhart Nick And Hillary Norm/The Norm Show Oz Picket Fences Private Secretary Public Morals St. Elsewhere Seinfeld The Single Guy Sons Of Thunder Soul Man Strange Luck Tattingers These Friends Of Mine Thunder Alley The Tortellis Trapper John, M.D. Walker, Texas Ranger The White Shadow Wings The X-Files You'd have to add the Simpsons on there (due to the X Files crossover, which also takes out the Critic and God knows what else), and the best I can figure out, Star Trek connects with St. Elewhere through Andy Griffith, and Star Trek connects with Team Knight Rider which connects with Knight Rider. Where would the links ever end??? |
I swear I've seen a flow chart of this somewhere. Little help....?
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Originally Posted by pezboy
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Thanks for the post. I saw them on that site years ago and had forgotten about it.
Who is the woman in the shot of Shatner in front of Floyd's Barber Shop? It looks like Helen Crump. :eek: |
Originally Posted by Buford T Pusser
Thanks for the post. I saw them on that site years ago and had forgotten about it.
Who is the woman in the shot of Shatner in front of Floyd's Barber Shop? It looks like Helen Crump. :eek: |
I thought it looked like her but wasn't thinking she'd be on Star Trek. I've never seen an episode of Star Trek in my life.
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if COPS (a REALity show) is a draem of an autistic boy does that mean we are all the dream of an autistic boy? I don't wannna be a dream I wanna be a real boy :(
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Muddying the waters is the 1991 TV Movie Knight Rider 2000, where James Doohan plays himself and is identified by the other characters as the actor who played Scotty on Star Trek.
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Originally Posted by digidoh
Muddying the waters is the 1991 TV Movie Knight Rider 2000, where James Doohan plays himself and is identified by the other characters as the actor who played Scotty on Star Trek.
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While I concede that the set is from TAGS, and the window does say "Floyd's Barber Shop", anyone who watched the episode would clearly see that this is NOT Mayberry in ANY time period! (The story actualy takes place in New York.) I mean come on, City on the Edge takes place in 1930 while TAGS was in the 1960's, so unless Floyd Jr relocated his dad's entire barber shop to Mayberry, I think it's safe to say it's not the same shop.
As for the St. Elsewhere/Tommy Westphall connection, I just don't buy it. This very dubious link is based solely on the John Larroquette Show / Yoyodyne connection. Goes like this. The John Larroquette Show is connected to Frasier, which is connected to Cheers (duh!) which has direct links to St. Elsewhere. Larroquette's character mentions a company called Yoyodyne. This is a direct reference to Thomas Pynchon's book "The Crying of Lot 49" and one of Larroquette's favorite writers. Reference Link Completely unrelated is the movie "The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension" which also decided to pay an homage to the same book by including in the story the company Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems. As for the Star Trek Connection, apparently the art department of The Next Generation series (Michael Okuda in particular) are big big fans of Buckaroo Banzai, placing subtle (and not so subtle) homages to the movie in graphics throughout next last four Trek series. This includes at least a couple of printed references to Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems. Keep in mind these were NEVER spoken on screen, and as far as I know, impossible to see on television. So, even if you accept that Buckaroo Banzai and Trek are in same universe (which I don't, even given the above connections) you would still have to believe that Larroquette's nod is also refering to BB, which I seriously doubt. My head hurts....... |
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