Enterprise 05/06/05
05-09-05, 06:09 AM
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I think this is the type of episode we were all expecting a long time ago: the beginnings of the Federation and how Earth reacts to that. Although the "no aliens" angle is pretty cliche by now (*cough* B5), it was a story that was necessary. I agree, Weller was fairly underwhelming.
So, the crew of the Enterprise saves the earth time after time, including a year long mission in Xindi space, and Trip/T'Pol expect to go unrecognized when their faces have likely been all over the news?
(Agreed with Mattrk, Galactica takes the crown for best "true" sci-fi right now)
So, the crew of the Enterprise saves the earth time after time, including a year long mission in Xindi space, and Trip/T'Pol expect to go unrecognized when their faces have likely been all over the news?
(Agreed with Mattrk, Galactica takes the crown for best "true" sci-fi right now)
05-09-05, 08:48 AM
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Didn't particularly care for this episode. I like the general theme of it but I think it was poorly executed. You could pretty easily tell that Travis' slut was going to be a spy. Then the trekkie in me wonders 1) if they had that defense weapon on Mars, why didn't they use it to stop the Xindi, 2) is that kind of weapon even possible in 22nd century Earth, and 3) all it takes is throwing a clamp on it and you gain access - that's convenient (and pretty shitty defense).
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05-09-05, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Dog
Then the trekkie in me wonders 1) if they had that defense weapon on Mars, why didn't they use it to stop the Xindi, 2) is that kind of weapon even possible in 22nd century Earth, and 3) all it takes to throwing a clamp on it and you gain access - that's convenient (and pretty shitty defense).
05-09-05, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Dog
Didn't particularly care for this episode. I like the general theme of it but I think it was poorly executed. You could pretty easily tell that Travis' slut was going to be a spy. Then the trekkie in me wonders 1) if they had that defense weapon on Mars, why didn't they use it to stop the Xindi, 2) is that kind of weapon even possible in 22nd century Earth, and 3) all it takes is throwing a clamp on it and you gain access - that's convenient (and pretty shitty defense).
Why would they need a powerful weapon to destroy comets, anyway?
05-09-05, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Dog
Didn't particularly care for this episode. I like the general theme of it but I think it was poorly executed. You could pretty easily tell that Travis' slut was going to be a spy. Then the trekkie in me wonders 1) if they had that defense weapon on Mars, why didn't they use it to stop the Xindi, 2) is that kind of weapon even possible in 22nd century Earth, and 3) all it takes is throwing a clamp on it and you gain access - that's convenient (and pretty shitty defense).
of course it can't really hit anything in the system, only stuff on the side that that part of mars is facing at the time
05-09-05, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pagansoul
I missed the first 10 min. How did they get the baby?
05-09-05, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mikehunt
of course it can't really hit anything in the system, only stuff on the side that that part of mars is facing at the time
Right. So all they would presumably have to do is launch an attack on the Terra Prime terrorists when that side of Mars isn't facing Earth (nor the moon).
05-09-05, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by das Monkey
I've been told that in the deleted scenes for this ep, Robocop acquired a Plot Resequencer from some Orions that allowed him to do this.
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what is a "Plot Resequencer"?
05-09-05, 01:49 PM
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• pilot •
yes, he is joking.
yes, he is joking.
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05-09-05, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Dog
Then the trekkie in me wonders 1) if they had that defense weapon on Mars, why didn't they use it to stop the Xindi, 2) is that kind of weapon even possible in 22nd century Earth, and 3) all it takes is throwing a clamp on it and you gain access - that's convenient (and pretty shitty defense).
05-09-05, 02:32 PM
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It's good to see some of the fun come back to an Enterprise thread. 
05-09-05, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by das Monkey
Not at all. Ask Mike Okuda. If you inverse the polarity of the Plot Resequencer and bombard it with tachyons, you can get any Warp Class ship to travel at the speed of plot.
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..okay I can't really do that..but..stop confusing people!.
05-09-05, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Fielding Mellish
Looking ahead to next weeks "grand" finale...
HERE'S a little video that should turn any true fan's stomach.
Ugh.
HERE'S a little video that should turn any true fan's stomach.
Ugh.
05-10-05, 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Fielding Mellish
Looking ahead to next weeks "grand" finale...
HERE'S a little video that should turn any true fan's stomach.
Ugh.
HERE'S a little video that should turn any true fan's stomach.
Ugh.
Yep, I must not be a "true" fan, because that montage was pretty cool to me.
I also thought this screen capture looked pretty cool as well. (I linked it so as not to inadvertently spoil anything for anyone).
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05-10-05, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by RoboDad
Well, then I guess I must not be a "true" fan, even though I watched every episode of TOS during its original broadcast run, not to mention seeing each of the movies at least twice in the theater and numerous more times on VHS/DVD, watching (and enjoying) all five series, and collecting dozens upon dozens of books and memorabilia on the subject.
Dad,
Though I can appreciate and respect your loyalty to "THE FRANCHISE"®, even the most staunch Enterprise supporter has to admit that Bakula sounds wildly out of place in the Shatner-Stewart pantheon. It's like following up two glasses of Guinness with a warm bottle of Zima.
FWIW, having been a newborn during the original TOS run, I'll defer my True Fan status to you.
05-10-05, 09:22 AM
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Gotta agree, sounded kinda cool. Though, too little too late.
Oh, what this series could have been.
Oh and this episode should have been in the first season or something.
Oh, what this series could have been.
Oh and this episode should have been in the first season or something.
