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al_bundy 12-10-04 08:43 PM

Fellowship of the Ring in HD this weekend
 
TNT is playing FOTR the entire weekend, and if you get HD channels you can see in HD. I caught the first five minutes, and I think it looks a lot better than the DVD. I just saw the extended edition last week on the same TV.

FinkPish 12-10-04 08:56 PM

Bastard Comcast in LA doesn't carry TNT in HD. :mad:

Iron_Giant 12-11-04 12:33 AM


Originally Posted by FinkPish
Bastard Comcast in LA doesn't carry TNT in HD. :mad:

No HD TNT in the Seattle area either.

ENDContra 12-11-04 07:46 AM

Looks better is debatable, since they didnt show it in OAR. I watched about 5 minutes and moved onto something else.

Jay G. 12-11-04 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by ENDContra
Looks better is debatable, since they didnt show it in OAR. I watched about 5 minutes and moved onto something else.

The LOTR movies were digitally rendered in 1.78:1, which was then cropped for the 2.35:1 theatrical image. Did anyone record this airing or could otherwise tell if it was shown open-matte?

mike1977 12-11-04 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by al_bundy
TNT is playing FOTR the entire weekend, and if you get HD channels you can see in HD. I caught the first five minutes, and I think it looks a lot better than the DVD. I just saw the extended edition last week on the same TV.

How do those popups look (the Now and Next and the promo garbage almost every TV channel ruins their programming with)? Are they nice and clear so they can be seen better?

Gallant Pig 12-12-04 01:37 AM


Originally Posted by Jay G.
The LOTR movies were digitally rendered in 1.78:1, which was then cropped for the 2.35:1 theatrical image. Did anyone record this airing or could otherwise tell if it was shown open-matte?

I really doubt they would be digitally rendered to 1.78:1, do you have a link that backs this up? Thx.

Ranger 12-12-04 01:42 AM

I saw a bit of LOTR when it was on the WB and TNT. On the TNT showing, I did not see any black bars, but I saw black bars for the WB showing. Not sure what this means since I don't have hd cable.

ENDContra 12-12-04 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by Jay G.
The LOTR movies were digitally rendered in 1.78:1, which was then cropped for the 2.35:1 theatrical image. Did anyone record this airing or could otherwise tell if it was shown open-matte?

Some of the head shots that I saw were VERY tight. If it was cropped to 2.35:1 from that, then it would have been full of chopped heads. Ive noticed that HBOHD also has a tendency to just pan and scan a 2.35:1 movie rather than use an open-matte version, and if youre correct, I think the same is true here.

I emailed TNT about my disappointment with this broadcast...of course Im sure that Ill never see any kind of response either.

Troy Stiffler 12-12-04 09:53 AM

With all of the effects shots, there's no way that it could ever be open-matte. That's to say that the crew put in 20% extra into the CG shots, just to crop out? Movies like this doesn't have open-matte as an option.

That being said, I'm perfectly happy with my DVDs' a/v.

Jay G. 12-12-04 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by Gallant Pig
I really doubt they would be digitally rendered to 1.78:1, do you have a link that backs this up? Thx.

From http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0120737/trivia

About 3,100 shots (78% of the Super 35 film) were color graded at Colorfront in Wellington, NZ using 5D Colossus software after being scanned by an Imagica XE scanner full 2K resolution (2048*1536). The color-graded shots were then recorded on Kodak 5242 intermediate film by two Arri Laser film recorders at 10 bits per channel. Because only 78% of the film was digital, a digitally squeezed anamorphic print could not be made for the whole movie. Instead, the digital shots were recorded on an inter-negative hardmatted at 1.77:1, intercut with the non-digital original negative (which had been color timed by The Film Unit, NZ), and printed to 2.39:1 anamorphic Kodak film using an optical printer at Deluxe, LA. Fuji 3519-D was used for release prints.
Of course, IMDB isn't the most reliable source, so here are some comparison shots between the 4:3 and 2.35:1 versions of FOTR:
http://dvd.ign.com/articles/366/366890p1.html?fromint=1

All the 4:3 shots have more info on the top and bottom. So yes, troystiffler, they did render 20% extra image to be cut off in the theatrical.

RichardW 12-15-04 07:19 PM

The only movie I've ever seen broadcast in 2.35:1 OAR was Judge Dredd on HBOHD. I don't understand why more movies aren't broadcast in OAR when shown in high definition.

Adam Tyner 12-15-04 07:29 PM

Re: HBO -- All of Lion's Gate's 2.35:1 movies are presented intact, and some older transfers (Anaconda, Boogie Nights, and Gattaca, to name a few) are as well. Solaris is a rare example of a more recent film where its scope aspect ratio isn't butchered. (At least, the part of Solaris I flipped by...)

Showtime, HDNet, and HDNet Movies almost always show movies in their original aspect ratio, FWIW.


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