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Chew 11-05-04 06:00 AM

Enterprise 11/05/04
 
Episode Title: "Cold Station 12"

Spoiler:
Soong — who escaped the custody of Captain Archer in the last episode and joined his progeny — heads back to the medical facility where he once worked (the titular Cold Station 12) and which is where hundreds more genetically engineered human embryos are still secretly stored. His intent is to retrieve them, then incubate and raise them like the first group of Augments, ultimately looking to render humanity obsolete.

w: Alan Brennert d: Mike Vejar

Damfino 11-05-04 03:26 PM

Wow. the sudden improvement of Enterprise seems to have left most of us speechless.

This thread over 9 hours old and no negative posts!

pilot 11-05-04 03:36 PM

hahahahah ..good one Damfino ..it's no Lost thread..that's for sure..but I guess we'll see comments after it airs tonight..

Breakfast with Girls 11-05-04 03:39 PM


the titular Cold Station 12
Well, if T'Pol is there...

adamblast 11-05-04 04:37 PM

She's titular enough already. We don't want someone poking an eye out.

MvRojo 11-05-04 07:16 PM

This one is by another new writer, following Ken LaZebnik, who wrote last week's "Borderland". Hopefully, he takes to Star Trek as well as LaZebnik did with his first script.

mikehunt 11-05-04 08:08 PM

was the non augmented augment the kid from commish?
if so his next guest role should be on the shield

great episode

Bandoman 11-05-04 08:13 PM

I'm speechless. This show is actually good now. It went from suck to good in the space of two weeks. Wow.

Finally they're dealing with the origins of the Earth-Klingon war. Federation history! Yay! :banana:

TheKobra 11-05-04 10:41 PM

This was one of the better episodes in a long time. But I believe the reason may of you out there think its better is due to Brent being on the show. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but the Dr. (played by Brent) is the one who created Data.

QuAcKeR 11-05-04 10:59 PM

No. Noonian Soong created data. This Soong is an ancestor of Noonian. But yes, I do hope the show continues to hold up well once the Brent Spiner arc ends.

Deftones 11-06-04 01:19 AM

:(

Stupid Suns game ran over. Will have to wait until Sunday night to watch.

MvRojo 11-06-04 02:50 AM


Originally posted by QuAcKeR
No. Noonian Soong created data. This Soong is an ancestor of Noonian. But yes, I do hope the show continues to hold up well once the Brent Spiner arc ends.
The next two 3-episode arcs sound really really good, so I think the show might hold up in quality.

Bandoman 11-06-04 07:47 AM

I like how they're (finally) addressing some of the major Trek history we've learned from prior Trek shows, like the Eugenics war (although they've changed things around) and the Earth-Klingon war.

If Lucas was involved, they'd have changed the TOS episodes to add new CGI and some bar music scenes.

Tracer Bullet 11-06-04 04:34 PM

This episode was definitely better. I'd even venture to say it was "good".

What I found most impressive about this episode (and the arc) is that they seem to be avoiding the old hoary Star Trek cliches than plagued Voyager and the first three seasons of Enterprise, mostly an overreliance on technobabble, reusing alien species without any real reason to, recycled plots, and crew blandness. TNG had this last problem too, but at least the plots were well-constructed and entertaining (for the most part).

The show isn't perfect: does anyone believe that the Augments aren't going to turn against Soong, for example? If they don't I'll be pleasantly surprised. But they're really striving to make this show about something, which is great.

cdoug57 11-06-04 05:26 PM

This episode was a very good middle part to the story.

I believe that Soong will eventually have to help Archer and company defeat the Augments.

I wonder if the Klingons will go away after the capture/destruction of the Augments or if this is how the war with the Klingons begins?

Can't believe I am actually looking forward to this next episode and the next story arc.

Hope they keep up the good work.

vaporware 11-06-04 11:24 PM

I believe this is showing how the earth/klingon war started. That should mean a lot of klingon battles to come.

Damfino 11-07-04 12:07 AM


Originally posted by TheKobra
This was one of the better episodes in a long time. But I believe the reason may of you out there think its better is due to Brent being on the show. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but the Dr. (played by Brent) is the one who created Data.
As I said last week, I thought at first that Spiner's appearance was going to be a cheap stunt, but I was wrong. This story arc would be good even if somebody else was doing the part.

Tracer Bullet 11-07-04 01:00 AM


Originally posted by waporvare
I believe this is showing how the earth/klingon war started. That should mean a lot of klingon battles to come.
They've got the Earth-Klingon War and the Earth-Romulan war to cram into less than seven years. No wonder the Federation was founded.

das Monkey 11-07-04 02:32 AM

The only thing missing from this episode was a dropkick during Archer's fight with Malick.

das

Deftones 11-08-04 12:33 AM

Not bad. I don't think it was as good as last week's episode, but still pretty good.

Chew 11-08-04 06:04 AM

I'll agree with Deftones, not as good as last week, but still pretty good.

I don't know if it's just because this is the first season I'm watching the show in HD, but some of the FX look awesome. The shot of the Bird of Prey coming up behind the transport was sweet. :)

Red Dog 11-08-04 08:37 AM


Originally posted by Deftones, Esq
Not bad. I don't think it was as good as last week's episode, but still pretty good.

I agree.

crankyman 11-08-04 10:06 AM

good.

riley_dude 11-08-04 11:27 AM

I thought it was good but not as good as the first part. Kinda predictable. So let me guess, Soong will join forces with the Enterprise crew in the last part.
Thing will see Little Kahn or was he already put in that ship that will appear on TOS?

Tracer Bullet 11-08-04 01:28 PM


Originally posted by riley_dude
I thought it was good but not as good as the first part. Kinda predictable. So let me guess, Soong will join forces with the Enterprise crew in the last part.
Thing will see Little Kahn or was he already put in that ship that will appear on TOS?

Kahn was one of the original "supermen" that started the Eugenics War, so he's long gone.


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