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Goldberg74 04-20-04 10:20 AM

The Official "Iron Chef America" Thread (4/23-25)
 
For some reason I have been addicted to Iron Chef as of late. I'm not sure if its the food, the chefs or the showmanship.

Anyways, after the American teaser a few months ago (hosted by William Shatner), I've been anxiously awaiting an American version.

Here's the line up for this weekend on the Food Network:

<blockquote>Friday, April 23rd

9 PM - The Making of Iron Chef America: Behind the Scenes
10 PM - Battle #1: Iron Chef French Hiroyuki Sakai v. Bobby Flay

Saturday, April 24th

9 PM - Battle #1: Iron Chef French Hiroyuki Sakai v. Bobby Flay (Repeat)
10 PM - Battle #2: Iron Chef Japanese Masaharu Morimoto v. Mario Batali (Part 1 of a Double Battle)

Sunday, April 25th

6 PM - The Making of Iron Chef America: Behind the Scenes (Repeat)
7 PM - Battle #1: Iron Chef French Hiroyuki Sakai v. Bobby Flay (Repeat)
8 PM - Battle #2: Iron Chef Japanese Masaharu Morimoto v. Mario Batali (Part 1 of a Double Battle; Repeat)
9 PM - Battle #3: Iron Chef Japanese Masaharu Morimoto v. Wolfgang Puck (Part 2 of a Double Battle)
10 PM - Battle #4: Tag Team Battle</blockquote>

Let's try and keep all the discussion in this one thread. Thanks.

yecul 04-20-04 10:24 AM

Sakai does some amazing things and so does Morimoto. Maybe I'm just used to watching the FoodTV personalities cook up less complex dishes, but I can see the Japanese reps cleaning up.

Goldberg74 04-20-04 10:37 AM

Last weekend they showed the Morimoto v. Flay Battles:

Battle #1: Rock Crab Battle (from NYC in 2000) - Morimoto cleaned up there. But the funniest part was Flay complaining that his equiptment was faulty since he kept getting shocked! When the battle was over, he jumped up on the cutting board and Morimoto threw a fit about his sacrilege.

Battle #2: Japanese Lobster Battle (from Japan in 2001) - Flay got his revenge, and Chad Rowan (Akebono, the Yokozuna at the time) was one of the judges. This time instead of standing on the cutting board, he threw the cutting board off and stood on the counter. Morimoto was still pissed.

Hopefully in the Tag Team Battle we'll see Sakai/Morimoto v. Flay/Batali (I don't like Puck much).

Morf 04-22-04 09:17 AM

http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve...687|1|,00.html

Click the link for a pretty long story on the new specials. An except:


The first attempt at an American version of "Iron Chef" resulted in something that Sofia Coppola makes movies about. Everything, from the tension of the competition to the over-the-top dramatics of the original, was lost in translation.
That won't happen with Food Network's "Iron Chef America: Battle of the Masters," Alton Brown maintains.

"UPN tried to do this [in 2001], but they forgot that it was about food," says Brown, who hosts Food Network's "Good Eats" and will serve as the announcer/commentator for "Iron Chef America." The weekend-long set of specials pitting Food Network stars against two of Japan's Iron Chefs kicks off at 9 p.m. ET Friday (April 23).
Sounds very cool. I hope they make this a yearly special.

AgtFox 04-22-04 10:00 AM

Except no Chairman Kaga (his "nephew" hosts the show), no studio audience, no Ota.

I'm still going to watch though, anything with Sakai and Morimoto in it is better than that Iron Chef USA crap.

TK-421 04-22-04 11:14 AM

No Chairman? That sucks... any chance the commentators are the same guys who do the voiceovers?

AgtFox 04-22-04 02:20 PM


Originally posted by TK-421
No Chairman? That sucks... any chance the commentators are the same guys who do the voiceovers?

"UPN tried to do this [in 2001], but they forgot that it was about food," says Brown, who hosts Food Network's "Good Eats" and will serve as the announcer/commentator for "Iron Chef America."
Doubtful, looks like Brown is the announcer/commentator.

devilshalo 04-22-04 02:53 PM

I like Alton Brown but I will reserve judgement on his 'commentating'. I like his humor on Good Eats but I'm not sure how it will be here? This will no doubt be a lot better than that crap Iron Chef USA they tried to do. I wonder who the tasting panel will consist of?

Rivero 04-22-04 05:50 PM


Originally posted by devilshalo
This will no doubt be a lot better than that crap Iron Chef USA they tried to do.
Let's hope so. Most everything the U.S. touches turns to crap.

kantonburg 04-22-04 08:13 PM


Originally posted by Rivero
Let's hope so. Most everything the U.S. touches turns to crap.
I surely hope you aren't refering to the country itself? :)

Goldberg74 04-22-04 11:37 PM

I liked William Shatner as the Chairman... thought it was rather appropriate!

RKillgore 04-23-04 08:10 AM


Originally posted by devilshalo
I wonder who the tasting panel will consist of?
From zap2it:
In the battle between Sakai and Bobby Flay, airing Friday, trout is the secret ingredient...
...the judges -- for this battle, comedian Brian Unger, chef Kerry Simon and Bon Appetit executive editor Victoria von Biel...


Looks like they're not following the original Iron Chef panel of typically a politician, a rap star, a bimbo and a psychic.

Da Thrilla 04-23-04 02:38 PM

Bump for the show tonight...

I can't wait! Go Flay! :D

Morf 04-23-04 03:08 PM


Originally posted by RKillgore
Looks like they're not following the original Iron Chef panel of typically a politician, a rap star, a bimbo and a psychic.
Hmm. It woud be entertaining to have John Kerry, Vanilla Ice, Anna Nichole Smith, and Miss Cleo be judges.

Sessa17 04-23-04 04:35 PM

Anyone know if the Fri or Sat shows repeat again late at night? It's about the only show I watch, & I really want to see them but I wont' be home while they are on & I don't have a VCR.

Goldberg74 04-23-04 09:40 PM


Originally posted by Sessa17
Anyone know if the Fri or Sat shows repeat again late at night? It's about the only show I watch, & I really want to see them but I wont' be home while they are on & I don't have a VCR.
Replays according to Foodnetwork.com:

Iron Chef America: Behind the Scenes
<blockquote>April 23, 2004 9:00 PM ET/PT
April 24, 2004 1:00 AM ET/PT
April 24, 2004 2:00 PM ET/PT
April 25, 2004 6:00 PM ET/PT
April 25, 2004 11:00 PM ET/PT
April 26, 2004 11:00 PM ET/PT
April 27, 2004 3:00 AM ET/PT
May 02, 2004 3:00 PM ET/PT
</blockquote>

Battle #1: Sakai v Flay
<blockquote>April 23, 2004 10:00 PM ET/PT
April 24, 2004 2:00 AM ET/PT
April 24, 2004 9:00 PM ET/PT
April 25, 2004 1:00 AM ET/PT
April 25, 2004 7:00 PM ET/PT
April 26, 2004 12:00 AM ET/PT
April 27, 2004 11:00 PM ET/PT
April 28, 2004 3:00 AM ET/PT
May 02, 2004 4:00 PM ET/PT
</blockquote>

Battle #2: Morimoto v Batali
<blockquote>April 24, 2004 10:00 PM ET/PT
April 25, 2004 2:00 AM ET/PT
April 25, 2004 8:00 PM ET/PT
April 26, 2004 1:00 AM ET/PT
April 28, 2004 11:00 PM ET/PT
April 29, 2004 3:00 AM ET/PT
May 02, 2004 5:00 PM ET/PT
</blockquote>

Battle #3: Morimoto v Puck
<blockquote>April 25, 2004 9:00 PM ET/PT
April 26, 2004 2:00 AM ET/PT
April 29, 2004 11:00 PM ET/PT
April 30, 2004 3:00 AM ET/PT
May 02, 2004 6:00 PM ET/PT
</blockquote>

Battle #4: Tag Team Battle
<blockquote>April 25, 2004 10:00 PM ET/PT
April 26, 2004 3:00 AM ET/PT
April 30, 2004 11:00 PM ET/PT
May 01, 2004 3:00 AM ET/PT
May 02, 2004 7:00 PM ET/PT
</blockquote>

Goldberg74 04-23-04 09:58 PM

The Take-Out Edition
 
http://store.foodnetwork.com/estore_.../MER4369_L.jpg

They are touting a 3 disc DVD Set of all four battles, the "Behind the Scenes" Special and bonus footage for $44.95. Will ship in early June. :up:

My wife said 'No!'

Darn it! :up:

devilshalo 04-23-04 11:53 PM

I'm still waiting for the FujiTelevision/FoodNetwork Iron Chef dvd box set. :(

So far it's a good show on the Behind the Scenes. No mention of the UPN version :up:

devilshalo 04-24-04 12:01 AM

:jawdrop:

Spoiler:
The new Chairman is Mark Dacascos?

bdshort 04-24-04 01:12 AM

PETA is gonna be up in arms about them killing live trout on television! ;)

Brian

devilshalo 04-24-04 01:35 AM

I thought it was a good show. Doesn't quite have the energy of the original but that will come over time. The judges also need to liven up a bit more. I'll keep watching. :up:

And they were wrong about Sakai not losing a fish battle. He lost the red snapper 21st century battle to Kandagawa.

Blake 04-24-04 10:50 AM

An interesting show, but didn't like it half as much as the original. Just pretty boring overall without Ota, etc. Plus, not too sure Flay deserved the win - looks like the judges were pretty biased.

JM 04-24-04 01:13 PM


Originally posted by Blake
An interesting show, but didn't like it half as much as the original. Just pretty boring overall without Ota, etc. Plus, not too sure Flay deserved the win - looks like the judges were pretty biased.
I agree. However, the judges on the original always seemed biased against non-Japanese challengers too. They were initially even hard on Morimoto (who was at the time working in New York) because he had a neo-Japanese style with obvious American influence.

In any case, from the web vote, it is clear that fans know that Sakai is the true master. He won the vote 70% to 30% over Flay. Sakai is awesome.

clemente 04-24-04 08:20 PM

I think Sakai lost them with the ice cream. It's obviously hard to judge the taste since we can't, but up to that point I would have given the edge to Sakai. Seriously, trout ice cream?!

Mark Dacascos as the chairman....well, you can't really top the real chairman, so why even try right. He wasn't horrible, and I did like the apple thing. Though I though the "uncle" thing was stretching it a bit much.

Exzavier00 04-24-04 09:58 PM


Originally posted by Blake
An interesting show, but didn't like it half as much as the original. Just pretty boring overall without Ota, etc. Plus, not too sure Flay deserved the win - looks like the judges were pretty biased.
same here
pretty boring overall
VERY disapointed


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