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GuessWho 04-18-04 09:51 AM

"Frasier" or"Joey"?
 
--Long running TV show ends.

--The smartest/dumbest character gets a spinoff.

--Main character moves to different city so as to explain the lack of original series cameos.

--Sibling of main character becomes a main character too.

--Add another family member of extreme age (child or elderly) for comedic effect.

LasVegasMichael 04-18-04 10:43 AM

I am projecting failure on this one.

Prior to Friends, Matt LeBlanc was the male version of Allison LaPlaca with regard to show killers.

I have a bad feeling this will be history repeating itself.

mookiemeister 04-18-04 01:39 PM

Who is Allison LaPlaca? What shows did she appear in?

jeffkjoe 04-18-04 02:46 PM

I have a feeling that JOEY will be to FRIENDS, what THE TORTELLIS was to CHEERS, not FRASIER.

mrcoaster 04-18-04 03:01 PM

I would agree with jeffkjoe. I doubt this is going to end up running as long as Frasier. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if it tanks right off the bat if it lasts fewer eps than Frasier did seasons. It will probably at least get the season, but nothing is for sure.

GuessWho 04-18-04 03:04 PM

I wasn't trying to compare longetivity--but the concept. Look at the first post again: am I describing Joey or Frasier? Impossible to say.

Tscott 04-18-04 03:22 PM


Originally posted by GuessWho
Look at the first post again: am I describing Joey or Frasier? Impossible to say.
The use of opposites like "smartest/dumbest" & "(child or elderly)" and the genderless use of "sibling" would suggest that you are covering all your bets and describing both Joey and Frasier, not either/or.;)

mookiemeister 04-18-04 03:31 PM

Let's give the writers of Joey at least some chance before declaring that the show is not good.

Josh-da-man 04-18-04 05:56 PM

"Joey" will be facing a big challenge because NBC will be expecting a smash hit right out of the gate.

I don't know what they're paying LeBlanc, but it's probably a lot, and Drea de Matteo probably isn't coming cheap, either.

kantonburg 04-18-04 06:14 PM

Yea they're banking on "Joey". I mean they've snubbed Scrubs' Thursday show, moved it to Tuesday and instead of putting it back they stick "Joey" there.

Bring back Scrubs on Thursdays you NBC morons. Take that to the bank.

dcprules 04-19-04 12:58 AM

I'm holding out some hope. They at least got the creators and writers of Friends back for Joey. Will it be as great as Frasier and last for eleven seasons, highly unlikely. As funny a character Joey is, after twenty years his bit will get kind of stale.

Still looking forward to it, it'll be nice to still have one Friend around to watch on TV. I still wish they would have married Joey off to Monica so we could have a "Chandler" spinoff. That's be great!

Charlie Goose 04-19-04 01:21 AM


Originally posted by dcprules
I still wish they would have married Joey off to Monica so we could have a "Chandler" spinoff. That's be great!
No, no, no. You're supposed to say, "Would it BE any greater?" :)


I'll watch "Joey", see if it works. Is that the title they're going with?

das Monkey 04-19-04 01:45 AM


• LasVegasMichael •

Prior to Friends, Matt LeBlanc was the male version of Allison LaPlaca

:lol: That's harsh. He even has <i>Top of the Heap</i> becomes <i>Vinnie & Bobby</i> to match Alison's <i>Duet</i> becomes <i>Open House</i>. To her credit, she was a part of what I found to be one of the funniest moments I've ever seen on a television show. On <i>The John Larroquette Show</i>, Hemmingway nonchalantly says to her, "you're funny," and she breaks character, glances at the camera, and says something to the effect of, "after 5 sitcoms, I'm glad somebody noticed."

LeBlanc and La Placa share another quality: they're both very talented and funny. There's a reason they kept getting jobs. Hopefully the writing for this will be as strong as it was in the early seasons of <i>Frasier</i>.

das

MvRojo 04-19-04 10:16 PM

If they make Joey less of an idiot the show will probably succeed. But if Joey continues to be the extreme idiot he can be, the show will get tired really quickly.

LasVegasMichael 04-19-04 10:55 PM


Originally posted by mookiemeister
Who is Allison LaPlaca? What shows did she appear in?
Sorry for not getting back sooner.

Allison LaPlaca is an actress that was in a series of pilots and shows in the 1980s and 1990s which all went down in history as short-lived sitcoms cancelled after one or two seasons (if that).

Matt LeBlanc had a similar repitoire for a while as well.

Allison LaPlaca was in:

The John Larroquette Show (cancelled 1996)
Tom (cancelled 1994)
Jackie Thomas Show (Cancelled 1992)
Stat (cancelled 1991)
Open House (cancelled 1991)
Duet (cancelled 1989)

She also had a short guest star spot on Friends in Season 4. She played Rachel's boss at Bloomingdale's (that Chandler has a short love interest in). She is eventually
Spoiler:
hit by a bus and killed off
.

Matt LeBlanc had a few failed sitcoms in hos own right:

TV 101 (cancelled 1988)
Top of the Heap (cancelled 1991)
Vinnie and Bobby (cancelled 1992 MWC spinoff)

Granted, he is not to the extent of the Queen Miss LaPlaca, but let's not forget his few appearances on Just the Ten of Us, which should count for something. ;)

the narrator 04-19-04 11:30 PM

I hope the show is good. I would really like to see it succeed since I don't see much of a movie career for Matt Le Blanc

ENDContra 04-20-04 01:00 AM


I mean they've snubbed Scrubs' Thursday show, moved it to Tuesday and instead of putting it back they stick "Joey" there.

Bring back Scrubs on Thursdays you NBC morons. Take that to the bank.
Looks like they might be (maybe since The Apprentice is done? Thats the whole reason Scrubs was moved in the first place). Theres a new episode of Scrubs on Tuesday and Thursday night this week.

Jackskeleton 04-20-04 01:05 AM

The Apprentice is coming back. NBC wants to milk it for all it's worth.


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