Survivor: 12/11/03
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How dumb is Burton
'' Lill I hope you can live with yourself, we had an alliance ''
Hello, you just voted for her !!!!
*Edit* Sorry didn't see this was posted already lol
'' Lill I hope you can live with yourself, we had an alliance ''
Hello, you just voted for her !!!!
*Edit* Sorry didn't see this was posted already lol
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Yeah!!! GO Sandra! This kicks so much ass!!! Johnny Fairplay did not look happy...I love it! All the bs talk about the women not knowing what the hell they're doing...I loved the look of satisfaction on the girls' faces when they left TC! Loved it!
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I've been saying for some time that Fairplay is a good player and fun to watch but he's not a Survivor genius in the grand tradition of Hatch, Brian and Rob. His plans are far from perfect and tonight he really showed that he's not the schemer he thinks he is. And Burton is clearly an idiot. We'll see where it goes. Still a wide open game.
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It's like Indecent Proposal on Bizarro World: Burton gave away a million dollars to sleep with John.
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I will be shocked if Johnny Fairplay doesn't make it to the finals - all the women should want to face him in the finals. He may not win but I personally think he is a great player.
I just hope Darrah keeps winning immunities so it is Darrah vs Fairplay.
I just hope Darrah keeps winning immunities so it is Darrah vs Fairplay.
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Originally posted by Gil Jawetz
I've been saying for some time that Fairplay is a good player and fun to watch but he's not a Survivor genius in the grand tradition of Hatch, Brian and Rob. His plans are far from perfect and tonight he really showed that he's not the schemer he thinks he is. And Burton is clearly an idiot. We'll see where it goes. Still a wide open game.
I've been saying for some time that Fairplay is a good player and fun to watch but he's not a Survivor genius in the grand tradition of Hatch, Brian and Rob. His plans are far from perfect and tonight he really showed that he's not the schemer he thinks he is. And Burton is clearly an idiot. We'll see where it goes. Still a wide open game.
There was a rumor going around about Sandra winning it all when the season began. Something about people making big bets she would win it all.
I knew Burton was gone (barring immunity) when he took Jon with him.
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Originally posted by Struz
Darrah and Sandra in the final 2.
Darrah wins it all.
Darrah and Sandra in the final 2.
Darrah wins it all.
First IC: Jon wins.
#4 Lill voted out.
Second IC: Darrah wins.
#3 Jon voted out.
#2 Sandra
#1 Darrah
I thinking voting will go like this.
Voting for Darrah = Tijuana, Ryan, Lill, Burton, and Jon.
Voting for Sandra = Christa, and Rupert.
I don't think Burton or Jon will vote for Sandra since they'll think she broke the 'man alliance' by getting the women together. Tijuana and Ryan are natural votes since they are former Morgan. Lill could flip either way, but I'm putting her on Darrah's side because she'll like that Darrah was winning immunity at the end. Christa and Rupert are natural Drake votes for Sandra.
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I think that if it comes down to Darrah and Sandra, Darrah will win. She will have tacked on at least one more IC and at the end the jury will point to that strength down the stretch and give it to her.
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Originally posted by madcougar
Well, Hatch and Brian won. Rob didn't, so I wouldn't put him in the prior two's league.
Well, Hatch and Brian won. Rob didn't, so I wouldn't put him in the prior two's league.
Richard Hatch really wasn't a great player at all, his only smart move was forming the first alliance. After that, he just lucked out week after week until he ended up in the top two because Kelly thought she could beat him.
As for Johnny Rotten, he can lie his way to stay alive in the game, but he has alienated so many people on the jury, there's no way in hell he could win the million. There are two sides to winning this game and he has only excelled at one of them, so "Great Survivor Player" he is not.
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Yeah, we said it and then Probst said it: Rob was the best player ever to not win. He was, in my opinion, as good at manipulating the game as those other guys but he never managed to be fully in control: He was always reacting to something. And ultimately it came down to a smart decision by Jenna since she knew he would beat her.
Fairplay isn't as good as Rob even though he might win (although how he'd pull it off at this point I don't know, Burton was the only one I think he could have beaten.) Rob or Brian would never have allowed Lill to spend the day with those other gals. That was straight suicide.
Fairplay isn't as good as Rob even though he might win (although how he'd pull it off at this point I don't know, Burton was the only one I think he could have beaten.) Rob or Brian would never have allowed Lill to spend the day with those other gals. That was straight suicide.
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I was rolling during the reward challenge at Probst's comments:
"John is now working on his pole."
"Burton is now working on his pole, but will it be long enough?"
"Jon's pole is 6 inches too short."
This was the best Survivor in a long time. I loved the editing and how it ultimately played out, all the way to the jury's reaction and the clueless, mega-balls final comment made at the end.
"John is now working on his pole."
"Burton is now working on his pole, but will it be long enough?"
"Jon's pole is 6 inches too short."
This was the best Survivor in a long time. I loved the editing and how it ultimately played out, all the way to the jury's reaction and the clueless, mega-balls final comment made at the end.
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Originally posted by dhmac
That's screwy logic. "Funny" Rob and "Soft-core" Brian are the two best Survivor players, bar none. Brian by having the secret one-on-one alliances with so many people and then laying low and waiting it out. Rob by his ability to form, break, and re-form alliances as the game changed. The only thing that did him in in the final three was the makers of the show throwing in a balance IC that clearly favored women over men (due to lower center of gravity) and IC-winner Jenna voting him out because she knew she couldn't beat him in the first two. A more-fair final IC and Rob would've easily won the million.
Richard Hatch really wasn't a great player at all, his only smart move was forming the first alliance. After that, he just lucked out week after week until he ended up in the top two because Kelly thought she could beat him.
As for Johnny Rotten, he can lie his way to stay alive in the game, but he has alienated so many people on the jury, there's no way in hell he could win the million. There are two sides to winning this game and he has only excelled at one of them, so "Great Survivor Player" he is not.
That's screwy logic. "Funny" Rob and "Soft-core" Brian are the two best Survivor players, bar none. Brian by having the secret one-on-one alliances with so many people and then laying low and waiting it out. Rob by his ability to form, break, and re-form alliances as the game changed. The only thing that did him in in the final three was the makers of the show throwing in a balance IC that clearly favored women over men (due to lower center of gravity) and IC-winner Jenna voting him out because she knew she couldn't beat him in the first two. A more-fair final IC and Rob would've easily won the million.
Richard Hatch really wasn't a great player at all, his only smart move was forming the first alliance. After that, he just lucked out week after week until he ended up in the top two because Kelly thought she could beat him.
As for Johnny Rotten, he can lie his way to stay alive in the game, but he has alienated so many people on the jury, there's no way in hell he could win the million. There are two sides to winning this game and he has only excelled at one of them, so "Great Survivor Player" he is not.
And I think that Brian was by far the best player. His complete dominance of his season is one of the main reasons that many feel that was Survivor's weakest outing. Watching the inevitable was like watching the the Super Bowl during all the blowout years. You knew by halftime who was going to win, just not by how much.
I just hope that somehow Sandra and Darrah make it to the final two, though I doubt it will happen.
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Originally posted by dhmac
That's screwy logic. "Funny" Rob and "Soft-core" Brian are the two best Survivor players, bar none. Brian by having the secret one-on-one alliances with so many people and then laying low and waiting it out. Rob by his ability to form, break, and re-form alliances as the game changed. The only thing that did him in in the final three was the makers of the show throwing in a balance IC that clearly favored women over men (due to lower center of gravity) and IC-winner Jenna voting him out because she knew she couldn't beat him in the first two. A more-fair final IC and Rob would've easily won the million.
That's screwy logic. "Funny" Rob and "Soft-core" Brian are the two best Survivor players, bar none. Brian by having the secret one-on-one alliances with so many people and then laying low and waiting it out. Rob by his ability to form, break, and re-form alliances as the game changed. The only thing that did him in in the final three was the makers of the show throwing in a balance IC that clearly favored women over men (due to lower center of gravity) and IC-winner Jenna voting him out because she knew she couldn't beat him in the first two. A more-fair final IC and Rob would've easily won the million.
And in the end, for me "the best player never to have won" is still not nearly has good as one who has. Just my two cents.