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Bandoman 12-10-03 11:26 AM

Then again, we could simply be easily amused.

BTW, das - the letters in your post make fascinating patterns. I'm just going to sit here and look at it for a few hours...

Dr. Rosenrosen 12-10-03 12:11 PM


Originally posted by Babyballs
It's not that unreasonable for someone to be shot in the neck, lose pints of blood, undergo a really, really quick vascular surgery and back at work in 3 hours, right?
I think when viruses can be detected, diagnosed, and genetically mapped in an hour or two, vascular surgery should be no problem. :)

the aftermath 12-10-03 01:04 PM

Quick question, what's the current season going on now? Season 3?

Sorry, I'm not hip to the show like you all ;)

Groucho 12-10-03 01:07 PM

This is Season 28.

Bandoman 12-10-03 01:39 PM


Originally posted by Groucho
This is Season 28.
And since each season is supposed to correspond with an actual season, the first season starting the Spring of Show Year 1, this season (28) is the Winter of Show Year 7.

Or something.

the aftermath 12-10-03 01:57 PM


Originally posted by Groucho
This is Season 28.
So I guess it's come to the point where someone can't ask a simple question without getting some lame, unfunny response. Thanks.

djbrown 12-10-03 02:10 PM


Originally posted by the aftermath
Quick question, what's the current season going on now? Season 3?

Sorry, I'm not hip to the show like you all ;)

Season 3. Correct.

Bright Cucumber 12-10-03 04:54 PM


Originally posted by JetSter735180
Ya! I remember a month ago, people complaining about Gael and the fact that for three season in a row, there was a traitor at CTU.....
So who was the CTU traitor in season 2? Maybe I'm not reading between the lines enough. ;)

Ranger 12-10-03 05:31 PM


Originally posted by Dr. Rosenrosen
I thought it was a pretty cool twist, but I also am thinking "huh?". As in, why didn't Gaiel tell Chappelle what was going on? I guess to protect Jack's cover. When did this plot hatch? Just in the past few hours? Tony trusts Jack with a habit to go back into cover? What about all the people who have died as part of this plan (the DA, the guard, etc.)? And why wasn't Kyle Singer actually infected?

One way this kind of makes sense is if Jack knew about the plot ahead of time, and either he or Gaiel persuaded Hector not to actually infect Kyle Singer-- that they should make it a bluff, and Jack would free Ramon. If that's the case, there are still plenty of unanswered questions-- like why the heck Jack was so bent out of shape to find Kyle Singer.

Or, maybe Jack approached Gaiel earlier in the day and then they sprouted the plan that quickly-- but it still doesn't explain why Singer wasn't infected. Unless the Salazars realize it could harm even them if released.

The spoilers, unfortunately, gave away too much from next episode-- avoid all ads, if you can. Myself, I am weak.

Spoiler:
It appears that Chase will be taken captive by the Salazars, and of course at some point Jack will have to choose to save Chase or keep his cover.

Good post. Hopefully, everything will be explained eventually.

I had to laugh at the salsa music and hookers. That was a nice touch. The obvious thing that could happen is Hector turning against Jack at some point and infecting him with the virus. Hope there are more surprises later on.

WhoGirl 12-10-03 05:57 PM

I guess I'm with the minority on this, but I thought last night's episode was weak. I just kept waiting for something to happen, and when the 'something' happened it wasn't worth the build up.

And there was too much Palmer in this episode, too. How many times do we need his brother telling him to ditch the doctor chick?

"Jack Bauer and Salazar are in a plane. Gotta get them."

"No.......well, okay. Shoot them down."

"Okay. Now, we need to do something about Ann. She's going to ruin you, David. "

**bangs head against wall**

I've only recently got into watching 24 on Fox. I watched all of Season 1 and 2 on DVD the week before Season 3 began, so it's all fresh in my memory like one long movie. I just keep seeing many patterns repeating and it's getting kind of old.

Here's what needs to happen, and these are just my hopes for the show but I'll spoil them anyway:
Spoiler:


Kim: Needs to be killed. Brutally, and in front of Jack. Her character served her purpose Season 1 and needs to go. She's outstayed her welcome. Why kill her in front of Jack? His is a tragic character and this would further his arc.

President Palmer: Either needs to die, or have more stuff with Sherry. His brother, although a lot like Sherry, is not a suitable replacement. This entire season's Palmer plotline has sucked. It's filler...plain and simple. And lousy filler at that. I do think it's sad that the commercials during 24 foreshadow that Palmer will lose the Presidency and have to sell car insurance. :(

Nina: Needs to come back. More tension on Jack, and she's just a kickass character.

Chloe: Probably will be the "real mole." :rolleyes: If that's true, I will be sad. Anyway, she's annoying and reminds me of the kid in school who'd remind the teacher that they forgot to assign homework.

Chase: I thought he was acting a Hell of a lot like Jack last night, too. But he's no Jack, and this'll eventually cost him. Somehow I bet his relationship with Kim will be the kicker in that. SHE IS POISON!

Hector's Chicka: She's got more to do with further episodes. A lot of foreshadowing to her character's importance since the beginning of the Season.

Jack: This is what I like about this season so far....I have no friggin' clue where they're eventually going with Jack. Is he making mistakes because he's thinking about getting his fix? Does he realize he screwed up and is trying to make good with the Salazars for real because he can't go back to CTU? (Aside from screwing up and flying Ramone out, remember he said about his addiction "Absolutely NO ONE must know about this." to Chase.) Is it all a brilliant plan on Jack's part to do...something? Find out next week on... ;)
Anyway, I like that. It's making me guess. :up:


This season hasn't been that bad at all. Last night's episode did disappoint me, though. Hopefully next week it'll pick up.

toq 12-10-03 06:11 PM


Originally posted by Dr. Rosenrosen
One way this kind of makes sense is if Jack knew about the plot ahead of time, and either he or Gaiel persuaded Hector not to actually infect Kyle Singer-- that they should make it a bluff, and Jack would free Ramon. If that's the case, there are still plenty of unanswered questions-- like why the heck Jack was so bent out of shape to find Kyle Singer.
I'm going with this explanation for now. If I recall correctly, Jack tried to get Chase to head back to CTU. Since Chase insisted on staying, Jack had to give the appearance he was trying everything within his power to apprehend Kyle. If we accept this as the explanation, it would answer many of questions regarding Jack's actions and his motives thus far.

DvdGene 12-10-03 11:53 PM

Chloe = co-worker of Reese Witherspoon in Legally Blonde 2 (staff of Senator played by Sally Field) .

No, I didn't buy the dvd, my wife rented the movie ;D

DvdGene

DvdGene 12-10-03 11:56 PM

Btw, so far the best episode this season IMO. Can't wait how they're gonna explain the twist next week. Too bad Kim didn't try to get the gun and get herself shot ;D

Ranger 12-11-03 12:13 AM

Man, you guys are brutal - like watching a lynch mob shout "KILL KIM! KILL KIM!"

Edit: Hmm, I've read some really interesting spoilers at www.spoilersluts.com

Quapil 12-11-03 12:25 AM

Don't think 24 is back at all.

So there is finally a twist......but where's the tension?
This episode was so very boring it was hard to believe that it's 24.
I mean, the damn airplane szene took forever......seeing Salazar "dancing" with the girls.....grrr.....we all knew what a villain like him really would've done with them ;)
But anyways, that szene was just plain boring, I guess noone really thought that he will go and kill Jack that early in the Season.....so what's the thing to be thrilled?

The doulbe-mole thingy was discussed before and the only logical solution if they wanted to be at least a bit realistic.

Anyway, as much as i like to see Tony back it really makes me lough that he's already running around only 1 hours after surgery, lol

Buck Turgidson 12-11-03 12:38 AM

Actually, I was pretty satisfied at seeing her gagged.

Did anybody notice that, (for the first time in TV and movie history), someone (namely Kim) didn't howl in agony when the tape was ripped from her face?

Guess she's Jack's daughter, after all :lol:

Decker 12-11-03 01:29 AM


Originally posted by Dr. Rosenrosen
I think when viruses can be detected, diagnosed, and genetically mapped in an hour or two, vascular surgery should be no problem. :)
Thank you! I have a patient in the hospital and it's taking me over a day to get the result of a simple flu swab! Then again I don't have that NYPD Blue /CNN gal on the case, either.

So the reason that Chloe seems so annoyingly familiar was that she played "Chloe" on Veronica's Closet. Interesting. (Yes the show sucked, but it was between Sinefeld or Fraiser and ER and I didn't feel like changing the channel).

And YES, I loved that episode! A great twist that throws out everything from the first episode and starts afresh. This is why I still love 24.

das Monkey 12-11-03 01:48 AM

Yeah, you have to remember that Andrea Thompson is a P5 Commercial Teep, not to mention the gift Ironheart gave her. That gives her a pretty big advantage when it comes to medical analysis.

das

onebyone 12-11-03 01:48 AM


Originally posted by DvdGene
Btw, so far the best episode this season IMO. Can't wait how they're gonna explain the twist next week. Too bad Kim didn't try to get the gun and get herself shot ;D
I agree, I thought it was by far the best of the season. Sure, I could use less Kim and Anne, but the rest was wonderful and the twist at the end really surprised me. I am very excited about Jack being back undercover with the Salazars too, I felt robbed that he was undercover for 2 years with them and I didn't get to see. It seems too interesting for words so I am looking forward to it.

Groucho 12-11-03 06:58 AM


Originally posted by the aftermath
So I guess it's come to the point where someone can't ask a simple question without getting some lame, unfunny response. Thanks.
The forum has been that was since Mar 2000.

Chew 12-11-03 07:09 AM


Originally posted by das Monkey
Yeah, you have to remember that Andrea Thompson is a P5 Commercial Teep, not to mention the gift Ironheart gave her. That gives her a pretty big advantage when it comes to medical analysis.

das

:lol:

I've been pretty disappointed with this season so far. As everyone has said: no real tension. But, I'll admit, I didn't see that ending coming.

Meteu185 12-11-03 08:54 AM

Someone's going to have to explain to me the purpose of Jack killing the kid in the back of the plane and holding everyone hostage if he was with Hector the whole time??

Pointless tension building?

DGibFen 12-11-03 09:14 AM


Originally posted by Meteu185
Someone's going to have to explain to me the purpose of Jack killing the kid in the back of the plane and holding everyone hostage if he was with Hector the whole time??

Pointless tension building?

I took it as he was doing all of it so that he wouldn't blow his cover. It seems that Ramon and Jack were the only two on their side that knew about the arrangement. Perhaps having Hector in on the deal might have blown some sort of cover or something.

I think
Spoiler:
the virus will turn out to be a fake. There has to be something else that they want to do. I'd heard earlier this year (during some of the hype) that the storyline ultimately revolves around some sort of drug trade, but that might have changed by now.

Roto 12-11-03 11:08 AM


Originally posted by Patman
The only things that bores me are the Palmer/Anne/Bro scenes.
Palmer has taken over for Kim this season as far as just being a complete distraction and unrelated to anything important to the main plot. Would they just get past this "scandal" already? I'd rather Palmer was dead than this borefest.

I liked the plot twist, but that's some serious creative license they are taking. It's almost comical how many "holy shit!" moments they put in this episode.

Jack is handcuffed to a table or whatever and still managed to take down the guy guarding him and get free. I'm not sure if he broke the guy's neck or if he just crushed his skull between his thighs :lol: And why would the guy care if Jack's having a seizure? He looked worried.

Tony hears about Gaiel and walks out of the hospital. I was glad to see that Jack isn't the only badass in CTU. But then...

We find out Gaiel is also a badass and he was still working for the good guys. I'm not really sure if this is what they originally had planned because it seems ridiculous to me that Tony would think that not even Michelle could know about this. Gael put himself at risk as much as Jack did by breaking Ramon out of prison. He had a gun pointed at Michelle and Kim for crying out loud! I don't think Jack or Tony would appreciate that :p I would think that Michelle and Chapelle should be pissed off that they were kept out of the loop on this one.

Mysteryfan 12-11-03 11:16 AM


Originally posted by Roto
Jack is handcuffed to a table or whatever and still managed to take down the guy guarding him and get free. I'm not sure if he broke the guy's neck or if he just crushed his skull between his thighs :lol: And why would the guy care if Jack's having a seizure? He looked worried.


Are we sure the guy is dead? The way he was talking to Jack, I got the impression they had been friendly when Jack was previously undercover and that's why he was concerned.


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