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Damfino 12-03-03 09:51 AM


Originally posted by hahn
And what, no police were ANYWHERE in the vicinity while Jack was bringing the helicopter down? Sigh...I realize this is fiction, but sometimes, it's a little TOO unbelievable.
Well, Everyone knows you can't find a cop when you need one (especially on TV) and it's not as if he landed the chopper in front of Krispy Kreme.

As for believability, 24 is modeled on the style of old movie serials and it isn't supposed to be believable. Half the fun of the show is seeing how much trouble Kim can get into (and it took 6 hours this season!) and how Jack can suffer serious injuries and bounce back 100% within minutes.

Vonner 12-03-03 10:38 AM


Originally posted by Damfino
...and it's not as if he landed the chopper in front of Krispy Kreme.
:lol:

I agree with Damfino. I know that this series is not about reality. It passed that bridge a long time ago. I still find it interesting to see what is going to happen next. I'm enjoying the season just fine.

Rogue588 12-03-03 11:02 AM

glad to see they're spreading Kim's stupidity around this season..

watch out for those Mexican cougars Jack!

Kicker_of_Elves 12-03-03 11:05 AM

I thought the episode was decent, could have been better IMO.


Anyone else see that "Return of the King" Preview?


:drool:

DRG 12-03-03 12:13 PM


Originally posted by Rogue588
watch out for those Mexican cougars Jack!
They're called 'pumas' there. :)

Meteu185 12-03-03 01:34 PM

Or are they warthogs? :)

The Antipodean 12-03-03 02:48 PM

I'm done with this show. You can't really top blowing up a nuke like they did last season, for me the virus storyline lacks any real sense of urgency, and ultimately, it's all a little too much "been there, done that" with the twists and wacky conspiracies, etc. It might be the kind of show that has a finite shelf life rather than something they can get mileage out of for endless seasons IMHO.

Michael Corvin 12-03-03 03:03 PM

To me it seems as if Chase's character is being developed as a pseudo replacement for Jack. You like him, but he is willing to think and act outside the box to get things done just like Jack.

This could be for replacing Kiefer at some point, or giving him his own show on one of their proposed straight to DVD series. Just a thought.

Aphex Twin 12-03-03 03:17 PM

Hmmm....there hasn't been any scantily-clad Kim scenes this season....wonder if he'll make her strip so that she wouldn't run out of the room.

Ranger 12-03-03 06:28 PM

You read my mind, Aphex Twin!

Bandoman 12-03-03 06:33 PM

Better yet, Gael should capture Michelle too, and make both Michelle and Kim strip, and then make them kiss. All for necessary plot development, of course.

ChrisHicks 12-03-03 06:46 PM

as long as Jack doesn't drink the water he'll be fine.:)

Ranger 12-03-03 08:59 PM


Originally posted by Butterball
Better yet, Gael should capture Michelle too, and make both Michelle and Kim strip, and then make them kiss. All for necessary plot development, of course.
Damn! That's good! You really should be a writer for FOX! :D

Actually, Michelle very well could be the next hostage.

Jadzia 12-03-03 09:34 PM

I thought it was funny that it only took Jack about 5-10 minutes tops to drive to the prison, but after 20 minutes in a helicopter he is still in a "rural" area over Los Angeles.

leepyswetr 12-03-03 09:50 PM


Originally posted by cruzness
I think the reason they are keeping Jack alive is to plant the virus in him as punishment for being an agent.
Well, duh.

Quapil 12-04-03 12:33 AM

Have to agree with people who say that this season is going down.

Really sucks....always the same, always Deja Vu's

What's up with the shit to need 20 minutes to figure the frequency of the chopper just to be 10 seconds to late........which was oh so surprising........

The tension is gone, just leaves me to hope that the Bauer's are going to be annihilated this season for bringing some twists and changes back into 24.

I really loved the twists in season one where mostly never happened what I expected.......right now it's always the same, standard hollywood BS.

*yawn*

samuelowens 12-04-03 01:41 AM

Quapil, have to agree that it's getting a little too formulaic for my liking. Small red herring followed by conspiracy.

Still, it's one of the more entertaining formulaic shows around...

Quapil 12-04-03 01:55 AM

@samuelowens: True, which makes it even more sad IMHO :(

Chew 12-04-03 06:20 AM

I think after 2 full seasons of the current formula, it's difficult for them to find ways to maintain the "tension" in any way that doesn't feel silly.

Could somebody please bitch-slap Chloe?

PacMan2006 12-04-03 07:20 AM

I just think they are copying WAY too much from previous seasons. It's like the writers don't even want to attempt to be original.

We saw the jail break in season 1.

Palmer's situations seem straight out of both seasons.

We saw the possibility and follow through of Jack being shot down last season.

We've seen a mole in CTU.

We've seen Kim in too many dire situations.

Quapil 12-04-03 07:49 AM

A while ago I read that they're trying to put the best parts of Season 1 and Season 2 into the third Season.

Seems like they're doing exactly this and nothing else......they should've called it the 24 Remix Season :)

toq 12-04-03 02:51 PM

Quapil's post reminded me of earlier discussions regarding questions about seasons one's storyline that were really never answered. Of course, there's season two's cliffhanger that has not been addressed thoroughly. Now during this episode—and on more than one occasion—they conveniently remind us that apprehending Salazar is of utmost importance since he has ties to terrorist groups. Is it at all possible that the "bad guys" from both prior seasons are still lingering in the background? Was the true target of those seasons Senator/President Palmer and is he still?

Anyway, back to the current timeline—I'm still having trouble believing that the Salazars masterminded a plan where they used a teenage boy as a decoy. With the number of possibilities for a carrier, how did they know that CTU would properly identify Kyle Singer. If there's another carrier, who's monitoring his/her movements? Also, how did they know that Ramon would be released (directly/indirectly) by the time Singer was taken into custody (which I'm sure they should have anticipated)?

toq 12-04-03 02:58 PM


Originally posted by hahn
2) Is it just me or was there a MAJOR plot flaw? If Jack sees military choppers locking onto him with missles, he SHOULD have realized that they got Kyle, since otherwise, they would've just let him go. After all, they let him go at the prison.
Actually, the way I understand it, Chase was the one who made the call to stand down when talking to the warden. However, the choppers were the direct result of orders from CTU, in this case, Chappelle.

toq 12-04-03 03:02 PM


Originally posted by Patman
You do have to wonder if Hector's woman had some form of relationship with Jack because she got real uncomfortable when Hector said Ramon and Jack were heading their way.
Actually, I've been thinking that her discomfort lies with Ramon. How many times has she suggested to Hector that he abandon Ramon? Even upon Ramon's return, she has made it clear that Hector shouldn't have to play second fiddle to him.

Rypro 525 12-04-03 04:46 PM

actually, i think the big twist is gonna be
Spoiler:
that jack has the virus currently in him now.
and also, there is a casting announcement for a returning character in this weeks tv guide
Spoiler:
nina returns in january or febuary


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