bigjim25

9-15 The Long, Bad Summer (1)

9-22 The Long, Bad Summer (2)
9-29 PK (a.k.a. Preacher's Kid)

clemente

Damn...that came out of nowhere. Definately seems like a departure of sorts for the show.

Brian_92gsr

Can anyone breakdown this whole family for me? I used to watch the show when it first started (probably only the first season or two), but I don't know who any of these newer characters are.

Jlbkwrm

I think we're nearing the point where most of the regular characters aren't even in the family.

We've got:
Camdens:
Eric -- The dad.
Annie -- The mom.
Matt -- Oldest son, studying to be a doctor, has moved to New York.
Mary -- Oldest daughter, works as a stewardess in (I think) Florida.
Lucy -- 2nd daughter. Lives at home (I think in the garage apartment Annie buildt.)
Simon -- 2nd son. Currently, the least irritating character on the show.
Ruthie -- 3rd daughter. Lives at home.
Sam & David -- Twin sons, who were born a couple of seasons in. They're creepy. Really, really creepy.

Non-Camdens:
Kevin -- Lucy's husband, lives with Lucy at the Camden home. He's a cop.
Chandler -- Reverend who's assisting Eric at the church.
Roxanne -- Kevin's partner, currently dating Chandler.
Peter -- Neighbor-kid, currently going out with Ruthie.
Cecilia -- Annoying blonde, played by Jessica Simpson's kid sister. Simon's girlfriend.

People who aren't in the regular cast, but appear/get mentioned on occasion:

Robbie -- Mary's ex-boyfriend, lived with the Camdens for a while.
Ben -- Kevin's brother, Mary's ex-boyfriend.

mdc3000

The premiere was OK... didn't seem as good as most of the episodes last year.... Peter really bothers me too... anyhow, it was decent enough, but I think they were really trying to go for an emotional finale...which just felt cliched and silly (as opposed to Everwood...dealing with very similar themes...which was excellent).

I hope the next episodes are better than this opener... but I'll stick with the Camdens through the season even if they aren't.

MATT

Phil L.

Man I gotta agree with this.

Those kids are freakin possessed.

calhoun07

I recall the rumor at the end of last season that they were going to kill off Simon, because, supposedly, at that point in time he had not yet signed on for another season. When this season opened up and they were on the beach, I thought for sure it was some sort of dream sequence where somebody (the dad) was dreaming about Simon and wondering where he was, only to have to deal with the passing of his own son in this dream. That beginning, however, was reserved for Everwood.

mdc3000

Simon (David Gallagher) is only going to be in the first five episodes...then he's gone for good... not sure where they'll take Simon...but I doubt that he'll die...

MATT

Jlbkwrm

When last season ended, AFAIK, David Gallagher wasn't contracted for any S8 episodes at all. He was supposed to have a lead role in the movie Coldwater (the reform camp movie), which was going to enter filming during the summer.

At some point over the summer, his name dropped from Coldwater, and he signed on for a short run on this show.

I still think that that's why they ended the season the way they did--If they couldn't get him to sign on at all, they'd kill him. The way things worked out, he could do a few episodes of the show in the general time frame he'd set aside to film the movie.

One ghost, two bodies. It does explain why they're always together, and why they always speak as one unit. Maybe we'll get a Very Special Exorcism Episode in the future.

clemente

I'm going to miss the Simon character...not because I really like the character, I happen to think he's the character who suffered the most from growing up and in the evolution of his character, and not because we may lose Cecilia in the process (she's hot), but because we're running really low on actual Camden's.

And those kids are freakin' weird.

JuryDuty

Ugh. I'm dropping this show. They've lost their roots, I think. What used to be a heartwarming show about a man of faith, his family and his community has turned into a show about a man who's unsure about his faith, a family who is screwed up beyond measure and a community that they want no part of.

I don't understand why they didn't continue with the storyline of making Lucy a minister. SHE should have married Chandler and started working in her father's church. The whole Chandler/Roxanne storyline is ridiculous--and I don't understand why they've brough on characters like Roxanne, Kevin and Cecelia, who just don't act very well compared to the rest of the cast. Meanwhile, the good actors keep leaving.

This show hasn't gone through a standard evolution into deeper, more meaningful storylines...instead, it has become trivial and wares on me...my 2 cents.

Iron_Giant

The roots of the show are gone, it has turned into a soap opera.

I still like the show, but I like it bette when the stories were more heartwarming and had a message (drugs, friendship, family, guns...).

Gil Jawetz

god, i love this show.

bigjim25

Reminder that 7th Heaven season openner Part 2 and Everwood are tonight!

Brak55

The roots of the show were gone at the end of the fourth season when it went from a great family drama to a mediocre teen soap.

Miami Joe

I used to like the show much much more, but now every episode uses the same technique of dragging on and on about "what it is" someone is going to say. Like last night about the Mary being married... C'mon hurry up already and just tell them. Same with the Mary telling Carlos about the baby. It drags on and on. It makes me want to throw something at the tv to get these kids to spit it out.

Also, the Camden's black child, I think her name is... Ruthie, is going to be in High School next year??? No way. And those robot twins speak and communicate about subjects way beyond their age. It is still a guaranteed show on the ReplayTV for Mondays.